Fairy tales Vs Reality

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

[beren]

Stargazer, it seems so. Many times I realized that.

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

That is a tough task since we tend (even in our best intentions) to show somebody what to do.

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

True. Reminds me on another thing; many times I wondered what this could mean:
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!



I understand now that we have first to see what we are made of ,in our core. One thing is sure ,you can`t help others if you don`t have means to help. You can`t feed the hungry if you don`t have food.
So ,I can`t help anybody if I FIRSTLY don`t have ,don`t experience,don`t nurture,don`t show-love.
People can feel without mistake if you`re worthy or not when landing helping hand. It`s that inner feeling we`re born with.

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

I think you are doing very well on that path

Love for You
mudra

[Phtha]

Indeed.
I'm waiting for the flood.

Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

[haibane]

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

[beren]

Originally Posted by haibane

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

[haibane]

Originally Posted by beren

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

Right. Then you should also include the fairy tales presented by PR companies, film producers, psy-ops, etc. ... The world is full of them. For all I know some of the channellings might be real, I just have no means to determine which are BS or otherwise so I stuff myself with a pound of salt each time I read them or listen to them. But yes, I agree, a frighteningly high number of people here (out of all places ;-) seem to happily take them intravenously without a blink of an eye. It's a sad world (until you look at the bright side that is ;-)))

[Stargazer1965]

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

[beren]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

Count me in ,friend. I felt that in my life somewhat too.

[Tango]

Star,

There is NO Reason to be sad... We, ALL make our own happiness... WE,

Choose everything in our Lives... We, bring ourselves happiness... Or, we can
Ruin someone else's day... We choose to sing in the shower... Or, complain that
life is NOT Fair... Mother, didn't intentionally lie to you... She just didn't deal
with reality, either...

Some of us, need to hit the Wall... Before, we realize just how good we have
it... Fairytale's have their place. Children, made up stories around a fire to
pass the time...

I, know a few that are in their 20's... That, still live in La-La, land... That
Snap, there finger's and think mom, is going to make a meal off a TV show...

But, I get all the Happy, happy... Love, is going to make ALL my DREAMS
Come True... Right Now, I'm watching a guy; doing back flips and a girl that
can't seem to git off her backside... " You, talk about a Love Story..."

" The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on Life...
Attitude, to me, is more important than Facts. It is more important than the
past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than
successes, than what others think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill... It will Make or Break a Home... A company...
The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day...We cannot change our past... We cannot change
the FACT that people will ACT in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.
The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...
Me... I'm convinced that Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And, so it is you... We are all in charge of our attitudes... ~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

[mudra]

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

[Tango]

I don't know... Seems, a bit too wordy... I should have condensed it more...

A bit convoluted... Do you think the message got thru, Mudra....?


Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by mudra

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Tango

Star,

There is NO Reason to be sad... We, ALL make our own happiness... WE,

Choose everything in our Lives... We, bring ourselves happiness... Or, we can
Ruin someone else's day... We choose to sing in the shower... Or, complain that
life is NOT Fair... Mother, didn't intentionally lie to you... She just didn't deal
with reality, either...

Some of us, need to hit the Wall... Before, we realize just how good we have
it... Fairytale's have their place. Children, made up stories around a fire to
pass the time...

I, know a few that are in their 20's... That, still live in La-La, land... That
Snap, there finger's and think mom, is going to make a meal off a TV show...

But, I get all the Happy, happy... Love, is going to make ALL my DREAMS
Come True... Right Now, I'm watching a guy; doing back flips and a girl that
can't seem to git off her backside... " You, talk about a Love Story..."

" The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on Life...
Attitude, to me, is more important than Facts. It is more important than the
past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than
successes, than what others think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill... It will Make or Break a Home... A company...
The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day...We cannot change our past... We cannot change
the FACT that people will ACT in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.
The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...
Me... I'm convinced that Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And, so it is you... We are all in charge of our attitudes... ~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango

Wise words, my friend. Thank you.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

When we are looking in the wrong direction God always offers us a Uturn Stargazer .
We sometimes have to take many of those during our spiritual journey before getting there.

Love for You
mudra

[Céline]

First we must imagine something before we can create it..

Thought and reality and very much intertwined...

[Stargazer1965]

Thanks Guys!!

Tango ...great post buddy!!

Mudra...thanks so much!!

SG

[viking]

Hi Beren ...

It's difficult at these times to discern what is truth and that which is not...There is soooo much dis-info out there to lead us down the wrong road it gets very confusing to say the least...

I know you have read this (maybe thats prompted your thread...who knows) anyway I'll place it again for other folk.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...07&postcount=1

Yes you are right there are some extremely good story tellers here at the moment, and as long as we are aware that the story line is fiction then its not a problem. However once people start to believe into the core then you can debate if there freewill is taken away. Tread carefully.

In answer to your origibal question.

No matter how painfull TRUTH is...no matter how brutal TRUTH is...

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

[Céline]

Originally Posted by viking

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

Truth is a comforting thought...


My sense of vision, my...fantasy... allows me clarity...for my truths

[beren]

Originally Posted by viking

Hi Beren ...

It's difficult at these times to discern what is truth and that which is not...There is soooo much dis-info out there to lead us down the wrong road it gets very confusing to say the least...

I know you have read this (maybe thats prompted your thread...who knows) anyway I'll place it again for other folk.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...07&postcount=1

Yes you are right there are some extremely good story tellers here at the moment, and as long as we are aware that the story line is fiction then its not a problem. However once people start to believe into the core then you can debate if there freewill is taken away. Tread carefully.

In answer to your origibal question.

No matter how painfull TRUTH is...no matter how brutal TRUTH is...

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

Viking ,

Often I wonder about many things and learn from many things. But whenever I get stuck I recall that Christ`s words in this situation ; know the truth and it will set you free.
Also more of a good advices he gave was in regard to this conversation and that is ; by their fruit ,you will know them. You can `t reap grapes from a fig tree and reverse.

I paraphrased it.

I tend when read or listen others to feel the spirit behind the words and demeanor . Then I see what kind of fruit they bare. Is it love, truth,wisdom,discernment,knowledge or lies,sugarcoating,mistreating, downing,insulting,blinding.

It is not easy doing this since nobody`s perfect ( starting from me) but that`s the way to protect myself from fraudsters.

For example I highly doubt in posts you set over here ,when you do copy paste thing, but I read them to see if they hold a value or not.
I see through the veil that you my friend are the soul wishing and longing for truth and freedom and in your research you do your best even if you stumble sometimes. That`s why I appreciate you Viking.

We`re all brothers and sisters and if but a one wishes to get out from this collective mud and mire ,then I will be the first to cheer them up!

Remember that old saying;

united we stand , divided we fall?

That`s just like that. Plain and simple.

[viking]

WE all stumble my freind...as long as we get up and keep seeking HER...thats all we can do...it's a tough road and some of us take the wrong road...

She will suface in time... and that's TRUTH!

And I much appreciate you.

viking