Fairy tales Vs Reality

[beren]

Originally Posted by haibane

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

[haibane]

Originally Posted by beren

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

Right. Then you should also include the fairy tales presented by PR companies, film producers, psy-ops, etc. ... The world is full of them. For all I know some of the channellings might be real, I just have no means to determine which are BS or otherwise so I stuff myself with a pound of salt each time I read them or listen to them. But yes, I agree, a frighteningly high number of people here (out of all places ;-) seem to happily take them intravenously without a blink of an eye. It's a sad world (until you look at the bright side that is ;-)))

[Stargazer1965]

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

[beren]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

Count me in ,friend. I felt that in my life somewhat too.

[Tango]

Star,

There is NO Reason to be sad... We, ALL make our own happiness... WE,

Choose everything in our Lives... We, bring ourselves happiness... Or, we can
Ruin someone else's day... We choose to sing in the shower... Or, complain that
life is NOT Fair... Mother, didn't intentionally lie to you... She just didn't deal
with reality, either...

Some of us, need to hit the Wall... Before, we realize just how good we have
it... Fairytale's have their place. Children, made up stories around a fire to
pass the time...

I, know a few that are in their 20's... That, still live in La-La, land... That
Snap, there finger's and think mom, is going to make a meal off a TV show...

But, I get all the Happy, happy... Love, is going to make ALL my DREAMS
Come True... Right Now, I'm watching a guy; doing back flips and a girl that
can't seem to git off her backside... " You, talk about a Love Story..."

" The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on Life...
Attitude, to me, is more important than Facts. It is more important than the
past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than
successes, than what others think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill... It will Make or Break a Home... A company...
The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day...We cannot change our past... We cannot change
the FACT that people will ACT in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.
The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...
Me... I'm convinced that Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And, so it is you... We are all in charge of our attitudes... ~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

[mudra]

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

[Tango]

I don't know... Seems, a bit too wordy... I should have condensed it more...

A bit convoluted... Do you think the message got thru, Mudra....?


Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by mudra

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Tango

Star,

There is NO Reason to be sad... We, ALL make our own happiness... WE,

Choose everything in our Lives... We, bring ourselves happiness... Or, we can
Ruin someone else's day... We choose to sing in the shower... Or, complain that
life is NOT Fair... Mother, didn't intentionally lie to you... She just didn't deal
with reality, either...

Some of us, need to hit the Wall... Before, we realize just how good we have
it... Fairytale's have their place. Children, made up stories around a fire to
pass the time...

I, know a few that are in their 20's... That, still live in La-La, land... That
Snap, there finger's and think mom, is going to make a meal off a TV show...

But, I get all the Happy, happy... Love, is going to make ALL my DREAMS
Come True... Right Now, I'm watching a guy; doing back flips and a girl that
can't seem to git off her backside... " You, talk about a Love Story..."

" The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on Life...
Attitude, to me, is more important than Facts. It is more important than the
past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than
successes, than what others think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill... It will Make or Break a Home... A company...
The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day...We cannot change our past... We cannot change
the FACT that people will ACT in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.
The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...
Me... I'm convinced that Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And, so it is you... We are all in charge of our attitudes... ~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango

Wise words, my friend. Thank you.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

When we are looking in the wrong direction God always offers us a Uturn Stargazer .
We sometimes have to take many of those during our spiritual journey before getting there.

Love for You
mudra

[Céline]

First we must imagine something before we can create it..

Thought and reality and very much intertwined...

[Stargazer1965]

Thanks Guys!!

Tango ...great post buddy!!

Mudra...thanks so much!!

SG

[viking]

Hi Beren ...

It's difficult at these times to discern what is truth and that which is not...There is soooo much dis-info out there to lead us down the wrong road it gets very confusing to say the least...

I know you have read this (maybe thats prompted your thread...who knows) anyway I'll place it again for other folk.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...07&postcount=1

Yes you are right there are some extremely good story tellers here at the moment, and as long as we are aware that the story line is fiction then its not a problem. However once people start to believe into the core then you can debate if there freewill is taken away. Tread carefully.

In answer to your origibal question.

No matter how painfull TRUTH is...no matter how brutal TRUTH is...

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

[Céline]

Originally Posted by viking

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

Truth is a comforting thought...


My sense of vision, my...fantasy... allows me clarity...for my truths

[beren]

Originally Posted by viking

Hi Beren ...

It's difficult at these times to discern what is truth and that which is not...There is soooo much dis-info out there to lead us down the wrong road it gets very confusing to say the least...

I know you have read this (maybe thats prompted your thread...who knows) anyway I'll place it again for other folk.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...07&postcount=1

Yes you are right there are some extremely good story tellers here at the moment, and as long as we are aware that the story line is fiction then its not a problem. However once people start to believe into the core then you can debate if there freewill is taken away. Tread carefully.

In answer to your origibal question.

No matter how painfull TRUTH is...no matter how brutal TRUTH is...

TRUTH is what I want.

I will always side with TRUTH.

Truth is my true freind, and TRUTH will be with me in time.

She will always unfold before me, in eventuality.

viking

Viking ,

Often I wonder about many things and learn from many things. But whenever I get stuck I recall that Christ`s words in this situation ; know the truth and it will set you free.
Also more of a good advices he gave was in regard to this conversation and that is ; by their fruit ,you will know them. You can `t reap grapes from a fig tree and reverse.

I paraphrased it.

I tend when read or listen others to feel the spirit behind the words and demeanor . Then I see what kind of fruit they bare. Is it love, truth,wisdom,discernment,knowledge or lies,sugarcoating,mistreating, downing,insulting,blinding.

It is not easy doing this since nobody`s perfect ( starting from me) but that`s the way to protect myself from fraudsters.

For example I highly doubt in posts you set over here ,when you do copy paste thing, but I read them to see if they hold a value or not.
I see through the veil that you my friend are the soul wishing and longing for truth and freedom and in your research you do your best even if you stumble sometimes. That`s why I appreciate you Viking.

We`re all brothers and sisters and if but a one wishes to get out from this collective mud and mire ,then I will be the first to cheer them up!

Remember that old saying;

united we stand , divided we fall?

That`s just like that. Plain and simple.

[viking]

WE all stumble my freind...as long as we get up and keep seeking HER...thats all we can do...it's a tough road and some of us take the wrong road...

She will suface in time... and that's TRUTH!

And I much appreciate you.

viking

[Stargazer1965]

Not just truth some day....Truth in my lifetime.....

[Céline]

Fairy tales...is a very "lightweight "word for what we are discussing...

So none of you see the value in imagination?

[beren]

Originally Posted by Céline

Fairy tales...is a very "lightweight "word for what we are discussing...

So none of you see the value in imagination?

Celine, without imagination we would be droids...


We`re a bit on a different line of conversation right now and that has nothing to do with organic fairy tales.
But what is interesting many believe in modern fairy tales we see daily in news,forums and rest.

[viking]

But what is interesting many believe in modern fairy tales we see daily in news,forums and rest

So true Beren...

Hey Celine without our imagination we wouldn't be going where we're going!!

viking

[Céline]

*smiles at viking*

i love to travel

[beren]

Originally Posted by viking

So true Beren...

Hey Celine without our imagination we wouldn't be going where we're going!!

viking

Viking, remember that tune ( I don't know exactly who sings it)

"imagination-could make a man of you"

Imagination is a creative stick in our hands...now and in the future!
So we WILL create fairy tales, from our hearts and souls, fairy tales that are true!

[viking]

LOL ... I think we are showing our age Beren ...

Imagination got us here...so I suppose imagination will get us there!!!



viking

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

Imagination is a creative stick in our hands...now and in the future!
So we WILL create fairy tales, from our hearts and souls, fairy tales that are true!

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”

~ Ben Okri (1959)

Love Always
mudra

[Moxie]

Imaginations just might be the problem right now....
It is always very good to imagine, howEVER when it comes to the real issues at hand... it's time for leveled thinking.

Attitude, as Tango writes, is essential, however, that good attitude still is facing reality, get it? Facing the Real but w/Attitude... you Still get done what is needed to get done and IF you are met w/defeat in the outcome, your attitude takes you into the hereafter w/finesse! (in that we all die one way or another).. so be it!

Love Lives!

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”

~ Ben Okri (1959)

Love Always
mudra

Just like water was turned into wine, love creates paths where there were none! Mighty Himalayas are but a pebble mountains before love...

With love you can move problems who stood like Himalayas...turn them into meadows of flowers...then you pick the flower ,feel its scent and say...now we`re talking...

It`s that easy and it`s that complicated...

But to love ,it means to live ,see,gaze,feel through divine, to be one with Creator.