Fairy tales Vs Reality

[trainedobserver]

Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

[beren]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

True, that is why so many are listening stories of what would THEY like to hear , not what is really happening and what can be done about it.

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by beren

True, that is why so many are listening stories of what would THEY like to hear , not what is really happening and what can be done about it.

You have correctly assessed the situation.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

I happen to think there is sufficient evidence for past earth cataclysms, if that is what you are specifically referring to.

Of course human thoughts and beliefs effect reality, I think the religious intolerance and holy wars that go on to this day are a testament to that fact.

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by Majorion

I happen to think there is sufficient evidence for past earth cataclysms, if that is what you are specifically referring to.

Of course human thoughts and beliefs effect reality, I think the religious intolerance and holy wars that go on to this day are a testament to that fact.

You are confusing thoughts with actions. While true thoughts proceed action (well in most people) only human actions effect reality. Of course there is evidence for past cataclysms. However, how many religious sects have promoted 'end-dates' that they believed in fervently (putting pets to death, etc., etc.) that have come to naught? Countless.

The earth and the solar system have cycles which are independent of human thought and human action. We are at the mercy of such a colossal system that our efforts, one way or another, are below noise level.

[beren]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

You are confusing thoughts with actions. While true thoughts proceed action (well in most people) only human actions effect reality. Of course there is evidence for past cataclysms. However, how many religious sects have promoted 'end-dates' that they believed in fervently (putting pets to death, etc., etc.) that have come to naught? Countless.

The earth and the solar system have cycles which are independent of human thought and human action. We are at the mercy of such a colossal system that our efforts, one way or another, are below noise level.

Indeed. We will get to the point one day when we`ll understand how everything works. Until then, growing up is on the menu.