Fairy tales Vs Reality - Page 2

beren · 02-07-2010, 08:43 PM

Mudra, that was a nice video.
You know it`s always like this; why simple when it may be complicated?

Truth is simple. Love is simple.
But there is a catch; no impure soul can comprehend it. It does not tolerate impurity.

Many things are hidden in plain sight because 99.999999% of people just do not ever think that it may be there right in front their noses.

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

mudra · 02-07-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

beren · 02-07-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mudra

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

Stargazer1965 · 02-07-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

Mudra, that was a nice video.
You know it`s always like this; why simple when it may be complicated?

Truth is simple. Love is simple.
But there is a catch; no impure soul can comprehend it. It does not tolerate impurity.

Many things are hidden in plain sight because 99.999999% of people just do not ever think that it may be there right in front their noses.

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

So this is a complex journey to a simple truth....

mudra · 02-07-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?

Love Always
mudra

beren · 02-07-2010, 11:01 PM

Stargazer, it seems so. Many times I realized that.

beren · 02-07-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?

Love Always
mudra

That is a tough task since we tend (even in our best intentions) to show somebody what to do.

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

mudra · 02-07-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

Phtha · 02-07-2010, 11:59 PM

Indeed.
I'm waiting for the flood.

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Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?

Love Always
mudra

haibane · 02-08-2010, 12:17 AM

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

beren · 02-08-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by haibane

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

beren · 02-08-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mudra

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

True. Reminds me on another thing; many times I wondered what this could mean:
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

I understand now that we have first to see what we are made of ,in our core. One thing is sure ,you can`t help others if you don`t have means to help. You can`t feed the hungry if you don`t have food.
So ,I can`t help anybody if I FIRSTLY don`t have ,don`t experience,don`t nurture,don`t show-love.
People can feel without mistake if you`re worthy or not when landing helping hand. It`s that inner feeling we`re born with.

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

haibane · 02-08-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beren

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

Right. Then you should also include the fairy tales presented by PR companies, film producers, psy-ops, etc. ... The world is full of them. For all I know some of the channellings might be real, I just have no means to determine which are BS or otherwise so I stuff myself with a pound of salt each time I read them or listen to them. But yes, I agree, a frighteningly high number of people here (out of all places ;-) seem to happily take them intravenously without a blink of an eye. It's a sad world (until you look at the bright side that is ;-)))

Stargazer1965 · 02-08-2010, 01:11 AM

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

beren · 02-08-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

Count me in ,friend. I felt that in my life somewhat too.

mudra · 02-08-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

I think you are doing very well on that path

Love for You
mudra

trainedobserver · 02-08-2010, 05:28 PM

Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

mudra · 02-08-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

If they grasp to the notions of phenomena they will attach to self , person, sentient being , and life span.
Why ?
If they grasp to the denial of phenomena then they will attach to self , person, sentient being, and life span.
Therefore one should not grasp to phenomena, and one should not deny phenomena.

Those who are free from all notions are called buddhas.

-Diamond Sutra

Love Always
mudra

beren · 02-08-2010, 05:57 PM

Mudra, your words are indeed corresponding with the meaning of your nick in Serbian

beren · 02-08-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

True, that is why so many are listening stories of what would THEY like to hear , not what is really happening and what can be done about it.

Tango · 02-08-2010, 06:33 PM

Star,

There is NO Reason to be sad... We, ALL make our own happiness... WE,

Choose everything in our Lives... We, bring ourselves happiness... Or, we can
Ruin someone else's day... We choose to sing in the shower... Or, complain that
life is NOT Fair... Mother, didn't intentionally lie to you... She just didn't deal
with reality, either...

Some of us, need to hit the Wall... Before, we realize just how good we have
it... Fairytale's have their place. Children, made up stories around a fire to
pass the time...

I, know a few that are in their 20's... That, still live in La-La, land... That
Snap, there finger's and think mom, is going to make a meal off a TV show...

But, I get all the Happy, happy... Love, is going to make ALL my DREAMS
Come True... Right Now, I'm watching a guy; doing back flips and a girl that
can't seem to git off her backside... " You, talk about a Love Story..."

" The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on Life...
Attitude, to me, is more important than Facts. It is more important than the
past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than
successes, than what others think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill... It will Make or Break a Home... A company...
The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we
will embrace for that day...We cannot change our past... We cannot change
the FACT that people will ACT in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.
The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude...
Me... I'm convinced that Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And, so it is you... We are all in charge of our attitudes... ~ Charles Swindoll

Trooly,

Tango

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

mudra · 02-08-2010, 06:40 PM

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

mudra · 02-08-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad

When we are looking in the wrong direction God always offers us a Uturn Stargazer .
We sometimes have to take many of those during our spiritual journey before getting there.

Love for You
mudra

Céline · 02-08-2010, 07:24 PM

First we must imagine something before we can create it..

Thought and reality and very much intertwined...

Tango · 02-08-2010, 07:25 PM

I don't know... Seems, a bit too wordy... I should have condensed it more...

A bit convoluted... Do you think the message got thru, Mudra....?

Trooly,

Tango

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Originally Posted by mudra

Wow that 's a great post Tango

Love for You
mudra

02-07-2010, 08:43 PM	#26
beren Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 508	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Mudra, that was a nice video. You know it`s always like this; why simple when it may be complicated? Truth is simple. Love is simple. But there is a catch; no impure soul can comprehend it. It does not tolerate impurity. Many things are hidden in plain sight because 99.999999% of people just do not ever think that it may be there right in front their noses. SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there. The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple. That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

02-07-2010, 11:01 PM	#31
beren Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 508	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Stargazer, it seems so. Many times I realized that.

02-08-2010, 12:17 AM	#35
haibane Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Prague Posts: 75	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Hi Beren, I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it. Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

02-08-2010, 01:11 AM	#39
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control Now....I'm sad

02-08-2010, 05:28 PM	#42
trainedobserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 284	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Reality is that which exists regardless of what human beings may believe or think. If the beliefs and thoughts of human beings had any effect on what 'reality' is or is not then the world would have ended countless times in the past.

02-08-2010, 05:57 PM	#44
beren Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 508	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Mudra, your words are indeed corresponding with the meaning of your nick in Serbian

02-08-2010, 06:40 PM	#47
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality Wow that 's a great post Tango Love for You mudra

02-08-2010, 07:24 PM	#49
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: Fairy tales Vs Reality First we must imagine something before we can create it.. Thought and reality and very much intertwined...