Obama Forgery Exposed

[hueyii]

I dont buy it. If you believe whoever put this together, Obama and his circle of power already has the ability to fool the people currently in power. Come on, do you really think a forged document wouldnt have been spotted by the folks in power? The same people that lie, cheat and kill to stay in power didnt check him out thoroughly? I think not.

[msv]

As i said before, you should get another name.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by msv

As i said before, you should get another name.

As I posted to you before. If you had read my posts carefully, you would see Bodhisattva is my dog's name. I am a SPIRITUAL WARRIOR with Bodhisattva tendencies.

And I am not afraid to take on people like you. You have no intelligence in your responses, you just attack people.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

You have no intelligence in your responses, you just attack people.

And you're spreading a lie. How does it feel to do that?

Anyone can create a youtube video and claim to have dirt on another person.

[eaglespirit]

And again and again and again...

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

[StClair]

Dear Friends...


EagleSpirit is correct with the statement here.

Originally Posted by eaglespirit

And again and again and again...

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

Look friends, Bodhisattva is correct too, and if she has the courage to point out the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend does not exist, then I salute her for that fortitude. She is one of the few who does not hesitate to do what is right.

Excellent points made by HERETIC in his/her post.

I would like to add to those who keep repeating the lies about Palin that Mrs. Palin is of an Oecumenical Christianism type that has nothing at all to do with what she was accused of. Everything the media made up about her has been debunked by now.

Let it rest now. Ask yourself only this: If the mass media (controlled by you know who) attacked and smeared and slandered the Palins in such blatant ways, does that not tell you something?

We had a member here in the early days who knew the Palins for decades and he wrote about it and I posted it in threads that were deleted. Also if you know what Lindsey Williams stated about oil worldwide and oil in Alaska and connect these dots you ought to get the true picture without me stating the obvious.

I agree we can move on. Lady Bodhi, you agree? We move on? Let them figure it out....

If you want to keep goin and find out more, you can count me in to back you up. I think McCain and Palin have signalled we can let it rest, things will sort themselves out in the most surprising manners soon is all i can "predict"no pun intended...

Peace

[SIR GALAHAD]

WHO CARES

[Josefine]

You ought to be kidding, St. Clair! I have seen plenty of media slander on Obama, to put it mildly. It tells me that slander is standard fare in all of our media these days.

'Oecumenical Christianism' is not a very precise term. I seem to remember that Leo Zagami claimed that Oecumenism is run by the Vatican and the Jesuits, and that their meetings have weapons trading as a side show.

What I know about the Oecumenical movement, is that it has the Roman Catholic Church as a driving force. The Vatican regards all protestant groups as heretical, lost sheep that will understand that the Pope is their one and only shepherd.

[Sarahmay]

Originally Posted by Josefine

You ought to be kidding, St. Clair! I have seen plenty of media slander on Obama, to put it mildly. It tells me that slander is standard fare in all of our media these days.

'Oecumenical Christianism' is not a very precise term. I seem to remember that Leo Zagami claimed that Oecumenism is run by the Vatican and the Jesuits, and that their meetings have weapons trading as a side show.

What I know about the Oecumenical movement, is that it has the Roman Catholic Church as a driving force. The Vatican regards all protestant groups as heretical, lost sheep that will understand that the Pope is their one and only shepherd.

Here is what I posted about Palin that Mr. St. Clair had removed from his thread. Completely mainstream, made up of video clips of her own words:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...ows-best-sarah

Oh yes, she has been slandered but this Obama ridiculousness that has gone nowhere, it is gospel.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by StClair

Dear Friends...


EagleSpirit is correct with the statement here.





Look friends, Bodhisattva is correct too, and if she has the courage to point out the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend does not exist, then I salute her for that fortitude. She is one of the few who does not hesitate to do what is right.

Excellent points made by HERETIC in his/her post.

I would like to add to those who keep repeating the lies about Palin that Mrs. Palin is of an Oecumenical Christianism type that has nothing at all to do with what she was accused of. Everything the media made up about her has been debunked by now.

Let it rest now. Ask yourself only this: If the mass media (controlled by you know who) attacked and smeared and slandered the Palins in such blatant ways, does that not tell you something?

We had a member here in the early days who knew the Palins for decades and he wrote about it and I posted it in threads that were deleted. Also if you know what Lindsey Williams stated about oil worldwide and oil in Alaska and connect these dots you ought to get the true picture without me stating the obvious.

I agree we can move on. Lady Bodhi, you agree? We move on? Let them figure it out....

If you want to keep goin and find out more, you can count me in to back you up. I think McCain and Palin have signalled we can let it rest, things will sort themselves out in the most surprising manners soon is all i can "predict"no pun intended...

Peace

Thank you Michael.

I will move on in a few weeks. Once, Dec. 1, Dec. 5 events happen with the Supreme court....then there is Dec. 15 to look forward to with the electoral college votes. Personally, I am staying tuned in to these important decisions by the officials, because I am most curious just how deep the rabbit hole goes. I want to know if there is any justice left, and if we still have a constitution. I have not come this far, to let it all go. I want to know just what kind of American Republic I live in, or if it is really an Amerika.

That being said, all folks that don't want to be here, can move on. There is nothing keeping them here.

to you.

[Josefine]

Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by Josefine

Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

[Sarahmay]

This issue has now hit mainstream media, so it will be exposed, disproved, and hopefully people WILL move on:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...6/1689515.aspx

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

Because everyone has a right to there opinion bodhisattva and i for one don't care if obamas birth cert is a fake . Do you really think that if his birth cert was a fake that he would be the next president don't think so perhaps they want the birth cert to be a fake think about it who nos. The whole reason this forum is on a downward spiral is because of people not being allowed to speak there truth and thats why i feel Kerry has jacked
nice Dog by the way very fitting for this forum

[Fredkc]

Do you think the DNC or any political party has such control?

Well, lets see, the RNC and the DNC conspired to forge a reason for a war. Worked good enough to get over one million people killed.

So... forge a birth certificate... gee, lemme think.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

The fact that you are stuck on something that has been disproven countless times, is proof that you need to let it go.

If you don't like the opinions of other people, then you shouldn't be posting topics like this. It's an open forum and opinions like "who cares?" and "move on" are opinions too, that as unfavorable as they may be to you, are often the opinions of people who are sick and tired of this forgery thing being dragged on.

Since when did this become a forum for nothing but baseless speculation and tin-foil hat theories?

The more you drag it on, the more negative energy you create and nothing gets done.

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The fact that you are stuck on something that has been disproven countless times, is proof that you need to let it go.

If you don't like the opinions of other people, then you shouldn't be posting topics like this. It's an open forum and opinions like "who cares?" and "move on" are opinions too, that as unfavorable as they may be to you, are often the opinions of people who are sick and tired of this forgery thing being dragged on.

Since when did this become a forum for nothing but baseless speculation and tin-foil hat theories?

The more you drag it on, the more negative energy you create and nothing gets done.

clap clap clap very well said humble your the best

[John aka#404]

Kind of a sidetrack to the OP, but good info:

An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques In His Speeches


* open your mind, read and digest everything from both sides. You do not have to believe everything, but attempting to see everything from all sides is a good thing. If you do not allow yourself that, you will not grow.


John
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[Heretic]

I find it ironic that those who are wanting to "move on", and "not care" keep coming back here to post nonconstructive comments. adding nothing but disapproval and criticism And I thought constructive conversation was the point of these forums. To add to a thread, and not detract. To walk away with tolerance and not defame with criticism and contempt, a thread you find you may disagree with is the very basis of this forum.

Folks I voted for Obama and can relate to your angst but forget not the "beast" we have been dealing with for 60 years. And respect that others may not be so convinced (myself included) of any wrong doings during all of this. Its the GOVERNMENT remember? Your cheer to see this thread buried and out of sight is noted yet confusing by how many times you keep coming back here, "not caring" and "not moving on". And then posting about it.

Your clever and caviler attempts to quash intelligent discussion on a subject you find "closed" or a "non-issue" in such an enlightened and loving way shows your tolerance and desire to see this board flourish with a diversity of ideas, and an arena of freedom to explore ideas shunned by others who would stifle free speech!

You are most definitely some of the "positive" people here spreading great wonderful fuzzy feelings for us and humanity. And thank you for policing others with a firm judgment letting all know what "truth" really looks like so we can all follow your ideology and not have to think for ourself.

continue to clap clap clap and or pat yourselves on the back as best you can, you did a great job here making sure there are no other voices in the crowd to disagree with your own. Your open mindedness and respect for others have shown us all great lessons in humility and displays the angelic heritage you no doubt possess.

as for me, I would like to enjoy my experience talking with these fine folks on an issue I find interesting, and would be grateful to do so without enduring ridicule or punishment for my beliefs. Thank you so much.

Happy Holidays

[John aka#404]

Well said Heretic.


Happy Thanksgiving to all from the Great White North (actually still brown currently) !

John
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[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Heretic

I find it ironic that those who are wanting to "move on", and "not care" keep coming back here to post nonconstructive comments. adding nothing but disapproval and criticism And I thought constructive conversation was the point of these forums. To add to a thread, and not detract. To walk away with tolerance and not defame with criticism and contempt, a thread you find you may disagree with is the very basis of this forum.

Are people who start countless threads about Obama, also contributing to the non-constructive nature of their threads?

How can you add to a thread that has nothing worthwhile to add to? I echo the sentiments of others who have said that when they look at the off-topic of this forum, it's all Obama, all the time and it's all negative as well.

I get the feeling that fear and hatred of minorities, especially blacks, controls the tone of most, if not all threads that discuss Obama.

Folks I voted for Obama and can relate to your angst but forget not the "beast" we have been dealing with for 60 years. And respect that others may not be so convinced (myself included) of any wrong doings during all of this. Its the GOVERNMENT remember? Your cheer to see this thread buried and out of sight is noted yet confusing by how many times you keep coming back here, "not caring" and "not moving on". And then posting about it.

They have a right to not be convinced. They tend to over-do it though and now people are starting threads asking Obama supporters such as you and I to "apologize". Apologize for what? Apologize for having hope after dealing with 8 years of Bush? Apologize for wanting to live with hope and not fear?

Keep in mind, many of us are new to Avalon and the thoughts/theories that we encounter here. I'm not a hardcore believer in the NWO/PTB **** that people talk about on here. They're so bitter, that anyone who comes along is automatically a minion of the PTB to them.

I choose to live in a world of hope and not a world of fear. I choose not to crawl into my hidey-hole and worry about bombs and concentration camps and all of that ****. I am not worried about what happens on Earth because I am convinced that with 2012, brings a new beginning for all.

Your clever and caviler attempts to quash intelligent discussion on a subject you find "closed" or a "non-issue" in such an enlightened and loving way shows your tolerance and desire to see this board flourish with a diversity of ideas, and an arena of freedom to explore ideas shunned by others who would stifle free speech!

Do you not understand that the majority of these threads are started by a small group of posters with an agenda? They're not casual observers. They're people with a hardcore, anti-Obama agenda and they spend time praising cretins like Sean Hannity and Ron Paul. They cry when people hold up Obama as a messiah (in their minds) but they have no problems with calling Ron Paul an enlightened soul. That is hypocrisy.

Keep in mind that this is a private forum and freedom of speech has never applied to private forums. People **** each other off and get banned.

You are most definitely some of the "positive" people here spreading great wonderful fuzzy feelings for us and humanity. And thank you for policing others with a firm judgment letting all know what "truth" really looks like so we can all follow your ideology and not have to think for ourself.

I'm not going to believe something that someone with the word "truth" in their name says. They only wish that they knew the truth.

continue to clap clap clap and or pat yourselves on the back as best you can, you did a great job here making sure there are no other voices in the crowd to disagree with your own. Your open mindedness and respect for others have shown us all great lessons in humility and displays the angelic heritage you no doubt possess.

Again, you're missing the point.

as for me, I would like to enjoy my experience talking with these fine folks on an issue I find interesting, and would be grateful to do so without enduring ridicule or punishment for my beliefs. Thank you so much.

Happy Holidays

I would like to participate in a forum that doesn't have 500 anti-Obama threads on the front page, 24/7. I know that I am not alone.

Enjoy your holidays as well. No hard feelings.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by hueyii

I dont buy it. If you believe whoever put this together, Obama and his circle of power already has the ability to fool the people currently in power. Come on, do you really think a forged document wouldnt have been spotted by the folks in power? The same people that lie, cheat and kill to stay in power didnt check him out thoroughly? I think not.

No, I think the DNC, and as you put it, "the folks in power" DO KNOW, that it is a forgery. I've done my research, have you done yours?

We shall see how the next 2 months play out.

Peace out.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I think the DNC, and as you put it, "the folks in power" DO KNOW, that it is a forgery. I've done my research, have you done yours?

We shall see how the next 2 months play out.

Peace out.

Let me get this straight. You are behind the idea that he forged his birth certificate? Do you really believe that the DNC or any political party has such control?

Remember, the people running all the agencies who do the background checks/investigations were appointed by Bush. Majority rule only dictates passage/blockage of legislation. The real power in DC is held by the GOP. Trust me, I've lived and worked there all my life and mix with these folks. They are all packing up and looking for new jobs like they do everytime power changes hands here.

I'm guessing you still believe this forgery claim/
If so than who is he really? Was his mother real? Did his father really leave him or was he actually his mentor? What about his grandparents who raised him? Are they in on it? Who trained him for the role he is playing? When was he instructed on what he was supposed to do? What is his goal? Does his wife know? What about that wild pastor? He sure didnt sound muslim. Bible thumpin christian with sympathy for black america for sure.

When I ponder all the angles on this it just sounds crazy to think its true that he forged his birth certificate. This is compounded by all the false charges against him during the campaign that, by the way, were dismissed by the opposing party as being false.

Reading web pages and listening to youtube can only be considered as research if it is balanced by researching both sides of the argument. I doubt that is the case here. You are cherry picking information from one-sided sources. this makes you a puppet. A sheep. Wake up. Become aware of all the information. Keep the world well informed.

[StClair]

It is correct that DNC and many others know there s an issue the size of a mack truck coming at them. Ask yourself how they won the primaries, how Clinton was side-lined etc. and then let us step back in time a bit.


hueyii

Well you are joking right? You really do not know who he is? Do you read any other sources other than Avalon and massmedia? I really thought we were beyond all this and everyone at Avalon had somehow done their homework. Ask yourself this: Do you find it normal that all his school and university records are sealed? Does that give you a hint where to start?


Dear "msv"

why do you get so worked up when someone shares a piece of inconvenient information? Are we not here to find things out among other things?

If everything is a hoax and a psyop like you suggest I am glad you prove it to us who have reasons to feel differently. Have you seen the original birth certificate?

I explained to you already in another thread that many intelligence agencies around the world know that there is an issue with the composite person that was presented to the voters.

And sooner or later this issue will bubble back up to the surface. I am not telling you what I know, I am only helping to guide the search.

You have to take it easy and stay in an enquiring mind. Even the Clintons have gone very quiet on this issue, whereas usually they are quite vocal when it comes to this sort of thing. Does that tell you something?

Can I ask you who you are msv?

The fact is the paper is not a birth certificate, it is at best a COLB, and those who purport to have the real thing are sitting on it, and one has the right when in a sane mindset to wonder why.

This is something that is being looked at by many, and even in very high places. So this is not some light-hearted joking matter you can just brush off as a "psy-op," it will be more complex than you think.

As we showed you, the constitutionalists point out that the Electoral College has a duty to look into this. If it does not, it will later move into the awareness of the Supreme Court that already has heard noises about this.

If it was as simple as you make it out to be, then it would not be an issue, no? Then an original birth certifcate would have been produced and the matter would have been closed long ago.

I have to tell you this is not a psy-op. I cant tell you who my sources are but this issue is being looked into both from inside and from outside the USA.

You will admit that Indonesia is involved as is Kenya, and that perhaps even the birth certificate itself might prove irrelevant.


Peace

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