Obama Forgery Exposed

[Josefine]

Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by Josefine

Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

[Sarahmay]

This issue has now hit mainstream media, so it will be exposed, disproved, and hopefully people WILL move on:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...6/1689515.aspx

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

Because everyone has a right to there opinion bodhisattva and i for one don't care if obamas birth cert is a fake . Do you really think that if his birth cert was a fake that he would be the next president don't think so perhaps they want the birth cert to be a fake think about it who nos. The whole reason this forum is on a downward spiral is because of people not being allowed to speak there truth and thats why i feel Kerry has jacked
nice Dog by the way very fitting for this forum

[Fredkc]

Do you think the DNC or any political party has such control?

Well, lets see, the RNC and the DNC conspired to forge a reason for a war. Worked good enough to get over one million people killed.

So... forge a birth certificate... gee, lemme think.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

The fact that you are stuck on something that has been disproven countless times, is proof that you need to let it go.

If you don't like the opinions of other people, then you shouldn't be posting topics like this. It's an open forum and opinions like "who cares?" and "move on" are opinions too, that as unfavorable as they may be to you, are often the opinions of people who are sick and tired of this forgery thing being dragged on.

Since when did this become a forum for nothing but baseless speculation and tin-foil hat theories?

The more you drag it on, the more negative energy you create and nothing gets done.

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The fact that you are stuck on something that has been disproven countless times, is proof that you need to let it go.

If you don't like the opinions of other people, then you shouldn't be posting topics like this. It's an open forum and opinions like "who cares?" and "move on" are opinions too, that as unfavorable as they may be to you, are often the opinions of people who are sick and tired of this forgery thing being dragged on.

Since when did this become a forum for nothing but baseless speculation and tin-foil hat theories?

The more you drag it on, the more negative energy you create and nothing gets done.

clap clap clap very well said humble your the best

[John aka#404]

Kind of a sidetrack to the OP, but good info:

An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques In His Speeches


* open your mind, read and digest everything from both sides. You do not have to believe everything, but attempting to see everything from all sides is a good thing. If you do not allow yourself that, you will not grow.


John
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[Heretic]

I find it ironic that those who are wanting to "move on", and "not care" keep coming back here to post nonconstructive comments. adding nothing but disapproval and criticism And I thought constructive conversation was the point of these forums. To add to a thread, and not detract. To walk away with tolerance and not defame with criticism and contempt, a thread you find you may disagree with is the very basis of this forum.

Folks I voted for Obama and can relate to your angst but forget not the "beast" we have been dealing with for 60 years. And respect that others may not be so convinced (myself included) of any wrong doings during all of this. Its the GOVERNMENT remember? Your cheer to see this thread buried and out of sight is noted yet confusing by how many times you keep coming back here, "not caring" and "not moving on". And then posting about it.

Your clever and caviler attempts to quash intelligent discussion on a subject you find "closed" or a "non-issue" in such an enlightened and loving way shows your tolerance and desire to see this board flourish with a diversity of ideas, and an arena of freedom to explore ideas shunned by others who would stifle free speech!

You are most definitely some of the "positive" people here spreading great wonderful fuzzy feelings for us and humanity. And thank you for policing others with a firm judgment letting all know what "truth" really looks like so we can all follow your ideology and not have to think for ourself.

continue to clap clap clap and or pat yourselves on the back as best you can, you did a great job here making sure there are no other voices in the crowd to disagree with your own. Your open mindedness and respect for others have shown us all great lessons in humility and displays the angelic heritage you no doubt possess.

as for me, I would like to enjoy my experience talking with these fine folks on an issue I find interesting, and would be grateful to do so without enduring ridicule or punishment for my beliefs. Thank you so much.

Happy Holidays

[John aka#404]

Well said Heretic.


Happy Thanksgiving to all from the Great White North (actually still brown currently) !

John
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[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Heretic

I find it ironic that those who are wanting to "move on", and "not care" keep coming back here to post nonconstructive comments. adding nothing but disapproval and criticism And I thought constructive conversation was the point of these forums. To add to a thread, and not detract. To walk away with tolerance and not defame with criticism and contempt, a thread you find you may disagree with is the very basis of this forum.

Are people who start countless threads about Obama, also contributing to the non-constructive nature of their threads?

How can you add to a thread that has nothing worthwhile to add to? I echo the sentiments of others who have said that when they look at the off-topic of this forum, it's all Obama, all the time and it's all negative as well.

I get the feeling that fear and hatred of minorities, especially blacks, controls the tone of most, if not all threads that discuss Obama.

Folks I voted for Obama and can relate to your angst but forget not the "beast" we have been dealing with for 60 years. And respect that others may not be so convinced (myself included) of any wrong doings during all of this. Its the GOVERNMENT remember? Your cheer to see this thread buried and out of sight is noted yet confusing by how many times you keep coming back here, "not caring" and "not moving on". And then posting about it.

They have a right to not be convinced. They tend to over-do it though and now people are starting threads asking Obama supporters such as you and I to "apologize". Apologize for what? Apologize for having hope after dealing with 8 years of Bush? Apologize for wanting to live with hope and not fear?

Keep in mind, many of us are new to Avalon and the thoughts/theories that we encounter here. I'm not a hardcore believer in the NWO/PTB **** that people talk about on here. They're so bitter, that anyone who comes along is automatically a minion of the PTB to them.

I choose to live in a world of hope and not a world of fear. I choose not to crawl into my hidey-hole and worry about bombs and concentration camps and all of that ****. I am not worried about what happens on Earth because I am convinced that with 2012, brings a new beginning for all.

Your clever and caviler attempts to quash intelligent discussion on a subject you find "closed" or a "non-issue" in such an enlightened and loving way shows your tolerance and desire to see this board flourish with a diversity of ideas, and an arena of freedom to explore ideas shunned by others who would stifle free speech!

Do you not understand that the majority of these threads are started by a small group of posters with an agenda? They're not casual observers. They're people with a hardcore, anti-Obama agenda and they spend time praising cretins like Sean Hannity and Ron Paul. They cry when people hold up Obama as a messiah (in their minds) but they have no problems with calling Ron Paul an enlightened soul. That is hypocrisy.

Keep in mind that this is a private forum and freedom of speech has never applied to private forums. People **** each other off and get banned.

You are most definitely some of the "positive" people here spreading great wonderful fuzzy feelings for us and humanity. And thank you for policing others with a firm judgment letting all know what "truth" really looks like so we can all follow your ideology and not have to think for ourself.

I'm not going to believe something that someone with the word "truth" in their name says. They only wish that they knew the truth.

continue to clap clap clap and or pat yourselves on the back as best you can, you did a great job here making sure there are no other voices in the crowd to disagree with your own. Your open mindedness and respect for others have shown us all great lessons in humility and displays the angelic heritage you no doubt possess.

Again, you're missing the point.

as for me, I would like to enjoy my experience talking with these fine folks on an issue I find interesting, and would be grateful to do so without enduring ridicule or punishment for my beliefs. Thank you so much.

Happy Holidays

I would like to participate in a forum that doesn't have 500 anti-Obama threads on the front page, 24/7. I know that I am not alone.

Enjoy your holidays as well. No hard feelings.