The 'Hidden Hand' a PROPER & 'POSITIVE' discussion of the material ONLY here!

shijing · 10-28-2008, 04:00 PM

I think that there are several things about Hidden_Hand's information that indicate that it is hoaxed. Hidden_Hand is obviously familiar with the Ra material, from which he plagiarizes much of his content and upon which he builds -- it is very surprising that he has never heard of the Cassiopaean material, since it generally fits the Ra material hand in glove and is in general more damning of the power elites than the Ra material ever was, and one would expect someone of Hidden_Hand's purported caliber to at least be familiar with this material.

More to the point, I have noted the following inconsistencies with the Ra material just off the top of my head, and there are probably more:

1. Hidden_Hand says that 4th Density is the highest density at which one can maintain an STS polarity, but the Ra material repeatedly describes Carla Rueckert as under the attack of a 5th density STS being in the latter part of the series

2. Hidden-Hand says that the Lucifer social-memory complex originates from Venus, but in the Ra material, it is said that that is Ra's origin. Can both social-memory complexes originate from the same place? Even if that is possible, it is strange that Hidden_Hand didn't clarify since he claims that Lucifer and Ra are 'good friends'.

3. Hidden_Hand says of the Orion group, "They exist within their Group Soul Complex, mostly as a group of discarnate entities, within the Astral Planes of the planets they visit." The Ra material descriptions of the Orion group are at odds with this, indicating that it consists of a majority of 4th density STS in bodily form (including the need to use ships), and a minority of 5th density STS (which Hidden-Hand has claimed does not exist, see 1. above).

4. Hidden_Hand's description of Yahweh as the Earth-logos is completely at odds with both the Ra and the Cassiopaean material, both of which describe Yahweh as a foreign, alien entity (in the Ra material, Yahweh refers to a group of beings -- I would have to double check about that in the Cass material) who interacts with humanity at a mid-point in its history. Yahweh has not been with humanity from the beginning, certainly not in the sense of being the Earth-logos.

These are just some of the more egregious discrepancies. I think that Hidden-Hand's material resonates with some people because there are some core truths mixed in (this is all a game, we are actors in a great drama, etc), but his little speech at the end about how he has grown fond of the posters on ATS, while meant to be endearing, ends up making me embarrassed for him by the transparency of this common emotional ploy. All in all, I think this is a hoax from beginning to end, and was probably not done by anyone of real significance in an insider sense. I am of course interested in everyone else's opinion.

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10-28-2008, 04:00 PM	#11
shijing Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6	Hidden_Hand a hoax I think that there are several things about Hidden_Hand's information that indicate that it is hoaxed. Hidden_Hand is obviously familiar with the Ra material, from which he plagiarizes much of his content and upon which he builds -- it is very surprising that he has never heard of the Cassiopaean material, since it generally fits the Ra material hand in glove and is in general more damning of the power elites than the Ra material ever was, and one would expect someone of Hidden_Hand's purported caliber to at least be familiar with this material. More to the point, I have noted the following inconsistencies with the Ra material just off the top of my head, and there are probably more: 1. Hidden_Hand says that 4th Density is the highest density at which one can maintain an STS polarity, but the Ra material repeatedly describes Carla Rueckert as under the attack of a 5th density STS being in the latter part of the series 2. Hidden-Hand says that the Lucifer social-memory complex originates from Venus, but in the Ra material, it is said that that is Ra's origin. Can both social-memory complexes originate from the same place? Even if that is possible, it is strange that Hidden_Hand didn't clarify since he claims that Lucifer and Ra are 'good friends'. 3. Hidden_Hand says of the Orion group, "They exist within their Group Soul Complex, mostly as a group of discarnate entities, within the Astral Planes of the planets they visit." The Ra material descriptions of the Orion group are at odds with this, indicating that it consists of a majority of 4th density STS in bodily form (including the need to use ships), and a minority of 5th density STS (which Hidden-Hand has claimed does not exist, see 1. above). 4. Hidden_Hand's description of Yahweh as the Earth-logos is completely at odds with both the Ra and the Cassiopaean material, both of which describe Yahweh as a foreign, alien entity (in the Ra material, Yahweh refers to a group of beings -- I would have to double check about that in the Cass material) who interacts with humanity at a mid-point in its history. Yahweh has not been with humanity from the beginning, certainly not in the sense of being the Earth-logos. These are just some of the more egregious discrepancies. I think that Hidden-Hand's material resonates with some people because there are some core truths mixed in (this is all a game, we are actors in a great drama, etc), but his little speech at the end about how he has grown fond of the posters on ATS, while meant to be endearing, ends up making me embarrassed for him by the transparency of this common emotional ploy. All in all, I think this is a hoax from beginning to end, and was probably not done by anyone of real significance in an insider sense. I am of course interested in everyone else's opinion.