*consider this*

[Frank Samuel]

Joe that's a great question. A few hurracanes have come a knocking and continue on their way. A tzunami will do a wipe out on the Island. So I guess we will have to get the surfboards out. Joe are you ARMY, Airforce, Navy ?
If you are still active be safe, okay !!! I'll keep an x-tra surfboard just in case
you come down this way.

[Elephant Man]

Hi all, my little bit of input. I agree that its difficult to do something "active", but we have to think "what is physically active?" I play in a band with some friends who all have an interest in the subjects discussed in here. Our way of being active is through our music and lyrics. We do talk and discuss, we do sit at our computers, but we also express our hopes for the future, we tell stories to enlighten and we sometimes sing about the bad stuff out there, to wake people up. I personally, outside of the band, am an artist. I paint what I feel about spiritual growth and hope that the message somehow gets across. It may not be a revolutionary way of getting the message across, but its our way.
I also send emails to politicians about various subjects. Recently it was alternative energy. In denmark politicians are ranting about bringing down co2 emissions bla, bla. I sent a bunch of emails, that maybe never got read. If they did most will have been ignored, but if just one gets read and that person starts to consider things, then I'm happy. Its what I am able to do now. Street protests might come about eventually, but its going to take time over here. So until then, I have an audience and thats a start. Good thread.
Peace to all.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Man

Hi all, my little bit of input. I agree that its difficult to do something "active", but we have to think "what is physically active?" I play in a band with some friends who all have an interest in the subjects discussed in here. Our way of being active is through our music...

Perfect!!

There are as many ways of being active as there are persons involved. There are probably things we should all be doing in the realm of conversations and preparation, but even there it's not the same for everyone. Sometimes I use phrases like taking it to the streets, but I am not talking about demonstrations and marches. I pretty much got that stuff out of my system during Vietnam. I'm just talking about spreading light and truth - however we do it, we need to be proactive about it.

Even though I'm in the way of being a writer and teacher, I don't especially hold with making speeches and direct challenges. In my job I see lots of people under stress, and I look for opportunities to share an encouraging word or a bit or reassurance.

Sometimes the results are surprising. One of my favorite customers is a woman in her late 60s who is fun to talk to and darn sexy for a gal her age. The other day I helped her find something or other, and as she started to walk away she stopped and asked me, "Do you ever wonder why you're here?" What followed was not exactly a deep conversation there in the vitamin aisles, but the next time I see her I'm going to make a point of inviting her for a cup of coffee. Another lady asked me equally out of the blue, how I conquered fear. I always make a point of letting people know that what is happening is exactly what should and must be happening, and that it will be difficult but will turn out alright.

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Joe that's a great question. A few hurracanes have come a knocking and continue on their way. A tzunami will do a wipe out on the Island. So I guess we will have to get the surfboards out. Joe are you ARMY, Airforce, Navy ?
If you are still active be safe, okay !!! I'll keep an x-tra surfboard just in case
you come down this way.

haha yeah im in the army i might have to take u up on that surf board lol ive always wanted to ride a tsunami

[quest]

yep, the emotional energy released by reading about to be expected tragedies (that most likely will not happen) seems to be a drive for people to surf here. this makes the site delusional in a way, and a heavy suck, working in a reversed way.
i posted a link towards real accessible solutions, not even one reaction.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5532

oh well, there’s so much good stuff going right now, these good vibes cant be stopped anymore. i am definitely positive, cant say that about the site though. The good thing is that I realise the importance of ‘acting now’ even better then before.

Keep up the good stuff folks, its one and all vibrancy.

[Frank Samuel]

Quest just asking, have you started a group or are you starting a group ?
Two basic things needed is time and money . Since the recent rise of gas prices went to the sky Hydrogen became an option,not very expensive at work 50 % of my coworkers where informed, (about 200 people).Only two converted the cars to hydrogen. So just informing people sometimes is not a solution creating communities is a bit more effective.
survival is not guarantee but that does not mean we can't try.

[quest]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Quest just asking, have you started a group or are you starting a group ?
Two basic things needed is time and money . Since the recent rise of gas prices went to the sky Hydrogen became an option,not very expensive at work 50 % of my coworkers where informed, (about 200 people).Only two converted the cars to hydrogen. So just informing people sometimes is not a solution creating communities is a bit more effective.
survival is not guarantee but that does not mean we can't try.

Hi Frank, about groups, I’ve been of and on involved in eco-projects for quite some years now. and luckily i live in an aria with a few organic farmers with health stores nearby and befriended with them. so i guess a kind of 'groups' have grown in a natural way over the years. i try to bike as much as possible, but i always had converted the cars i owned, so that they could run on natural gas. of course not a first choice but anyways.
the idea of focussing on survival doesn’t appeal to me though, i rather work on alternatives and on my mind settings, personal growth etc. i more and more realise that a focused mind is a powerful tool, so why not skip the survival and go for that sustainable world right away.

Originally Posted by whitecrow

Well I for one hadn't seen that post until just now. It's darn interesting, as a matter of fact. I think most folks aren't ready to contemplate such a commitment to the unknown at this time...but it'll come. For you and those others who ARE ready...It's great that you're collecting the information because it will be needed, I'm quite sure.

Hi Whitecrow, i thought this way of thinking, 'transition initiatives' would fit perfectly into avalons philosophies, so i was surprised no one responded.
i did send the site and article to Bill and Kerry, but i actually doubt if they will make an effort to interview Rob Hopkins. These kind of projects can make a substantial difference. and i do not have that feeling with listening to stories about greys that may or may not enter this or that timeline in case etc etc. of course fascinating to listen to, but you just don’t grow potatoes that way.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by quest

Hi Whitecrow, i thought this way of thinking, 'transition initiatives' would fit perfectly into avalons philosophies, so i was surprised no one responded.
i did send the site and article to Bill and Kerry, but i actually doubt if they will make an effort to interview Rob Hopkins. These kind of projects can make a substantial difference. and i do not have that feeling with listening to stories about greys that may or may not enter this or that timeline in case etc etc. of course fascinating to listen to, but you just don’t grow potatoes that way.

First of all, kudos to you for being proactive!

It doesn't matter if the rank and file at Avalon or any other part of the world rise up and follow. That at least is not my goal. We're planting seeds, is all; not all of them will sprout. Those that do, it's our responsibility to water.

I does strike me how the community has sort of split into a couple of major streams of thought, maybe in the broadest sense they could be called the survivalist threads and the ET threads. I don't fully belong to either of those, and I fully realize that it's a vast oversimplification. But I do consider the whole ET thing to be mostly a distraction from more serious matters, and to that extent I wonder if it's really just a big psy-op. As convinced as I am that offworlders do exist, I am far from convinced that they have anything at all to do with the current shift in earth affairs.

If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time. Meanwhile, I'm staying focused on what I personally observe, experience, learn and can teach.

[quest]

Originally Posted by whitecrow

It doesn't matter if the rank and file at Avalon or any other part of the world rise up and follow. That at least is not my goal. We're planting seeds, is all; not all of them will sprout. Those that do, it's our responsibility to water.

thanks, for reminding me not to have expectations from anyone except myself.

Originally Posted by whitecrow

But I do consider the whole ET thing to be mostly a distraction from more serious matters, and to that extent I wonder if it's really just a big psy-op.

yes, i do not only wonder if the et-thing is a psy-op, but all the panic stories that can be found on the web. so much distraction, time spent on fora with the arguing etc.

Originally Posted by whitecrow

As convinced as I am that offworlders do exist, I am far from convinced that they have anything at all to do with the current shift in earth affairs.

personally i am especially interested in internal e.t. stuff. since i believe we’re galactic beings, i get a lot of inspiration from within, and to me its a challenge to get this stuff out and find ways for practical use.

Originally Posted by whitecrow

If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time. Meanwhile, I'm staying focused on what I personally observe, experience, learn and can teach.

good idea, and thank you for your inspiring posts on this site.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by quest

yep, the emotional energy released by reading about to be expected tragedies (that most likely will not happen) seems to be a drive for people to surf here. this makes the site delusional in a way, and a heavy suck, working in a reversed way.
i posted a link towards real accessible solutions, not even one reaction.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5532

Well I for one hadn't seen that post until just now. It's darn interesting, as a matter of fact. I think most folks aren't ready to contemplate such a commitment to the unknown at this time...but it'll come. For you and those others who ARE ready...It's great that you're collecting the information because it will be needed, I'm quite sure.