Lucifer: Deity of the Elite

[orthodoxymoron]

In the past 2,000 years...has there been even one church which was built on the solid rock of the Teachings of Jesus? The Words of Christ are heresy in the Christian Church...aren't they? Have you taken a careful look at the ethics (or lack thereof) in the Old Testament? If we accept the ethics in the O.T. we can probably justify all manner of conquest and atrocity. Why have Evangelical Christians supported the Bush administration and the Iraq Crusade? I desire a higher standard of ethics than that which is found in the Bible. The Bible should be studied for historical value...and for clues regarding life and theology...but all 66 Books should not be the standard of faith and practice in modernity. This creates a huge mess...especially when one adds all of the supposedly inspired and even infallible interpretations of these 66 Books. The principles and concepts derived from the words of Christ should be sufficient. Isn't this essentially Responsible Freedom?

Isn't that right Lucifer? Come-on Lucifer...smile! There's some bad blood between you and Jesus...isn't there? Why don't you two just bury the hatchet (and not in each other's backs!)...and reconcile? Neither one of you should have to bow down and worship the other...should you? Could the two of you agree to base the Solar System on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...infused with Constructive Competition, Positive Response Ability, and Constitutional Responsible Freedom? Why might this be a problem for either of you? Would 'Thou shalt have no Gods' and 'Thou shalt not be an @$$hole' be a problem? Would this be a problem for Orion and Draco (and who knows who else)? Come...let us reason together. Why does everything have to be so $crewed-up and stupid? Can't we clear this thing up on a sunny afternoon? Why is this so hard?

[Steven]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Could the two of you agree to base the Solar System on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...infused with Constructive Competition, Positive Response Ability, and Constitutional Responsible Freedom?

...base the solar system on the U.S. constitution and bill of rights... Are you serious? It must be a kind of cultural humor I was not aware of.

And this is for you Redezra, Alex Collier and Andromedan's humor: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2197767

Namaste, Steven

[Noela]

I like the way you keep it simple, RedeZra -

"He (God) is the Spirit in Me in You in Sun in everything

Still its just a fraction of His glory"

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Steven

...base the solar system on the U.S. constitution and bill of rights... Are you serious? It must be a kind of cultural humor I was not aware of.

And this is for you Redezra, Alex Collier and Andromedan's humor: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2197767

Namaste, Steven

I couldn't be more serious. Please see the following thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Is there something funny about Responsible Freedom? Would you prefer Irresponsible Tyranny? That's really the choice...isn't it? Notice that I'm not promoting the U.S...especially in light of the past few decades. This is not a U.S. Uber Alles proposal. This is a U.N. based on the U.S. Constitution...and applied to the Solar System...proposal. I'm just doing an experiment...with a pseudo-scientific method. I may be mad...but I do have a method.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I couldn't be more serious. Please see the following thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Is there something funny about Responsible Freedom? Would you prefer Irresponsible Tyranny? That's really the choice...isn't it? Notice that I'm not promoting the U.S...especially in light of the past few decades. This is not a U.S. Uber Alles proposal. This is a U.N. based on the U.S. Constitution...and applied to the Solar System...proposal. I'm just doing an experiment...with a pseudo-scientific method. I may be mad...but I do have a method.

I took a look at your thread, now it has already been made. Naming it United States will not unite people at all. U.S. has too much negative meaning in the consciousness of the masses, it will not be a good idea to push it forward.

Here is something more universal and general, more likely to unite people around the idea. Keep in mind there are many differents cultures on earth. American culture is one amongs many. It is the more spread out, but still one amongs many.

http://www.humansovereignty.org/

here is an old thread about it: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=1936

Namaste, Steven

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Have you taken a careful look at the ethics (or lack thereof) in the Old Testament? If we accept the ethics in the O.T. we can probably justify all manner of conquest and atrocity.

The Israelites invasion of Caanan

tributary tribes

to the Pharaoh

lost in

child sacrifice cult fertility

witchcraft and whoreship

to Molech and to Baal

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I desire a higher standard of ethics than that which is found in the Bible. The Bible should be studied for historical value...and for clues regarding life and theology...but all 66 Books should not be the standard of faith and practice in modernity. This creates a huge mess...especially when one adds all of the supposedly inspired and even infallible interpretations of these 66 Books. The principles and concepts derived from the words of Christ should be sufficient. Isn't this essentially Responsible Freedom?

Good News


the Covenant is New

in Heaven and in Earth


for He is worthy

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Good News for All of Us


Look to Me

and you see the face and form of God

Hear to Me

and you know the teach and preach of God

Call on Me

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