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Old 09-15-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
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i'm glad you've posted this.. my mom also has arthritis in her knees.. and they make noise every time she takes a step. i feel very sorry for her.. and she works hard labour job.. she takes pills---cod-liver, chondriton something, and calcium ones.. i think calcium isn't rite.. the doctors are not of much help.. just keep prescribing medication as her health deteriorates.. is there an alternative???

arthritis is a major bitch!!!!!!!

i hope there is a cure!

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Old 09-15-2008, 10:26 PM   #2
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I use Cherry SYRUP! Not juice.
It is very thick and you can get it at the Farmer's Market in quart containers.

A couple of tablespoons a day will do the trick.
It takes some time before it works though...
Couple of weeks I believe...

I forgot as to how it works...My wife just told me to DO IT! hehe!
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:28 PM   #3
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thanks old dood! matrixmel-- you should try this!!
and i will give it to my mother
even if i have to
force it down
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:33 PM   #4
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Research it on Google first.
Make sure you know how much and all that to give her...

I am NO doctor....hehe!
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:37 PM   #5
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I use Cherry SYRUP! ...My wife just told me to DO IT! hehe!
dearest OLD DOOD...

you are So very easy to LOVE !!!

lots of water --
& ALSO lemonade--real lemons /
& natural sugar in the raw *** this is a joke (see below)

and, then,
DO as DOOD dude does:
his wife told him to do it, so, he does !!!

wow...you are definitely an amazing man

i like answer his third answer/ or response
the best !!!

he he he

(laughter is so important !!!)

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another thing that helps

is red wine extract (see link below)

or, pine bark is also very good too

brightest blessings of energy, light 'n love
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:04 PM   #6
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Thank you eXchanger....That was kind!

I DO have vicodin for a 'chaser'...hehe!
However, that is mostly for my bad back...
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:13 PM   #7
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Replace all the salt in your diet with Solar Cured Sea Salt.


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Old 09-15-2008, 11:24 PM   #8
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Also, if you can, start consuming unprocessed hemp seeds and hemp oil.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:41 PM   #9
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David Icke suffers from arthritis; i don't know what treatment he uses though.I think the best mates are Will power and Percy veerance,together they can overpower Arthur itis!Sorry i couldn't help any further There are these linkshere,EMU oil?

http://www.jointpainremedy.com/
http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/ar.../arthritis.htm
What can be done about arthritis? (Circulation formula)


Ginger
Ginger is a fantastic herb. It has been used for the treatment of many aliments. Studies show it is very beneficial in relieving arthritis. Its anti-inflammatory properties make it a well know arthritis treatment.

Ginger contains zingibain, a special proteolytic* enzyme. Research shows that proteolytic enzymes have anti-inflammatory properties. Taken as a tincture, capsule, as a tea or fresh, it does not have any reported side effects to high dosages. A dish prepared with ginger will actually give you a medicinal dose of the herb.

*proteolytic: the hydrolysis of proteins into simpler compounds by the action of enzymes.

Cayenne
Cayenne Pepper or Red Pepper ( Capsicum frutescens ) is another wonderful herb, with a wide range of medical properties to heal the body. Considered one of the best local and circulatory stimulants, cayenne may be used externally for poor circulation, unbroken chilblains and pains associated with arthritis and lumbago Capsicum creams are readily available or you can add a few drops of cayenne tincture to an ointment. If you do add to a cream, use sparingly at first gradually increasing the dosage.

Cayenne can be very hot and some people are sensitive. So test it first. Taken internally cayenne stimulates the heart, regulating the blood flow and strengthening the arteries and capillaries. Cayenne also contains capsaicin, a pain-relieving chemical. This also triggers the body to release endorphins, natures own opiates. Take cayenne as a tincture for fast acting absorption, and include the spice in your food.

Garlic and Ginkgo Biloba
Both garlic and ginkgo biloba have been shown to help with circulation and improve blood flow. This is important where arthritis is concerned. You have to try to improve your circulation. This will help bring oxygen to the affected area and take away harmful deposits which have built up.

All of these herbs may help. We have produced a special formula which includes all four of these herbs: ginger, cayenne, garlic and ginkgo biloba. You can see more information about the circulation formula here (click).



Other things which may help:
Bromelain a proteclytic enzyme present in pineapples helps prevent inflammation. Bromelain helps the body get rid if immune antigen complex compounds that are inflicted in some arthritic conditions In addition to zingibain and bromelain there are other proteclytic enzymes that have similar effects. Kiwifruit, paw paw and figs are excellent sources. Calcium is always needed by the body and especially to aid in the prevention of osteoporosis.

Food and herbs high in calcium are : Alfalfa, Liquorice, Red clover shoots, Camomile, Chives, Coltsfoot, Dandelion, Horsetail, Meadowsweet, Nettle, Plantain, Watercress, Cabbage, Thyme and basil.

Devils Claw a tuber found in South Africa contains a glycoside called harpagoside that helps to reduce inflammation in joints. Best taken in the tincture form especially for inflamed joints. Also good for itchy skin with no obvious cause. One caution, this herb should be avoided during pregnancy.

Additional herbs that will assist in treating arthritis are: Turmeric, Willow a natural pain killer, Liquorice which has anti-inflammatory qualities, rosemary, oregano, basil, camphor, celery seed, meadowsweet.



Stinging Nettles have been used for thousands of years!
Nature provides us with many plants that will aid in the relieving of joint pain. The most radical and perhaps the most daunting is Stinging Nettles. It is called urtication - from nettles botanical name, Utrica dioica- and dates back to the biblical times. Quiet simply the plant is grasped in a gloved hand and the stiff, swollen joint is swatted, thrashed with the sting. Urtication often provides considerable relief. The tiny stingers of the nettle plant actually provide microinjections of several chemicals, one of which is histamine.

The theory is, these chemicals, as well as causing the sting, trigger anti-inflammatory action by the body and so relieve arthritis. This is an ancient folklore, that seems to work for many people all over the world. Nettles grow in may countries and in each stinging nettles has developed a reputation as a treatment for arthritis. For the less adventurous of us, a fresh nettle tea or eating nettles will offer the same long term benefits. Gently steam the young tender leaves, and enjoy as a vegetable. They do lose the stinging effect when cooked!

Related Articles see: Circulation, Exercise
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:00 PM   #10
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interesting..........thanks for all the advice...
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:08 AM   #11
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dearest OLD DOOD...

you are So very easy to LOVE !!!

lots of water --
& ALSO lemonade--real lemons /
& natural sugar in the raw

and, then,
DO as DOOD dude does:
his wife told him to do it, so, he does !!!

wow...you are definitely an amazing man

i like answer his third answer/ or response
the best !!!

he he he

(laughter is so important !!!)

************************
another thing that helps

is red wine extract (see link below)

or, pine bark is also very good too

brightest blessings of energy, light 'n love
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Sorry to differ on this one point. One wants to use real Maple syrup grade B or C as sugar or honey makes the glucose levels rise up and down.

I've never heard of the cherry syrup. What an excellent tip OD.
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Old 09-16-2008, 03:02 AM   #12
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Yer Welcome but. do not thank me...Thank Mrs Dood.

She is the brains of this outfit.
I tease her a lot but, in truth my wife is really bright and commited to health care.
She will not stand for any of her 'Sisters' (Fellow Nurses) to whine, complain or make excuses.
She has a heart of gold with a Nurse Rachet attitude. hehe!
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Old 09-16-2008, 03:32 AM   #13
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Sorry to differ on this one point. One wants to use real Maple syrup grade B or C as sugar or honey makes the glucose levels rise up and down.

I've never heard of the cherry syrup. What an excellent tip OD.
ahh, my thoughts were running "raw"

it's old dood's fault, he distracted me


YOU are absolutely right

real maple syrup
(and, i am from canada-so shame on me)
and, i even know how to tap a tree
and, make maple syrup, the real old fashioned way,
over a fire, in the maple grove,
in about 2-3 feet of snow

i have to confess...
i was thinking about "sugar in the raw"
(and, it was more of a humourous addition)
to my post, and, NOT an actual "hard truth"

although "sugar in the raw"
is way better than "white sugar"
and, "brown sugar" is better than white sugar
(although, i have NOT fully tested that theory)

i've heard, that nothing on earth,
beats having a good "old dood"
to share it with

i'll bring 3 glasses...and, bring your wife too ,
that woman, i am sure, will teach me lessons

brightest blessings
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Old 09-16-2008, 03:43 AM   #14
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Cleansing is important...getting rid of parasites,
i think everyone should do one of those,
esp. if you have done a lot of traveling...
some are easier/and, better for you
than others...there are a few good options for those

lots of good suggestions

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Old 09-16-2008, 04:01 AM   #15
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Tumeric powder in your food may help a bit.

Find a SCENAR (ACUSCEN model for example) if you can afford one.
I will guide you on the use of it if you decide to go this route..

Food allergies? try variations in diet (milk, chocolate, peanuts, wheat, etc.)

Massage help maybe?

How is your living situation and/or your emotional/environmental stressors?

Or the now FAMOUS vitamin D3 cure all may help (geez - hope im not becoming another one of those people who push cure-alls)

Magnesium, Folic acid, Boron, Malic acid, Calcium mix?
i.e. Viridian Brand - Calcium, Magnesium with Boron Powder.

Hot soaks in EPSON salts? (Magnesium)

Do you like to eat Salmon? If so.... eat eat eat some oily Fresh Salmon

Lots of people here to help with ideas.

i wish for You quick healing and No more pain ASAP.

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Old 09-16-2008, 04:10 AM   #16
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I concur with Mr Deacon. Turmeric powder is good for anti-inflammation. Also cooking with ginger, olive oil and garlic. All of these have anti-inflammatory properties in them.
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:12 AM   #17
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Check out EDTA
it binds to heavy metals (mainly lead) and calcium

http://www.drcranton.com/edtabib.htm
http://naturalanswer.com/edta_benefits_and_uses.htm
it has been used to treat arthritis and calcium deposits in arteries...

Check http://www.ch3nutrigenomics.com/phpBB2/welcome.html for EDTA protocols

Houman

PS: Don't use EDTA if you have dental amalgams (mercury)

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Old 09-17-2008, 03:38 PM   #18
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Tumeric powder in your food may help a bit.

Find a SCENAR (ACUSCEN model for example) if you can afford one.
I will guide you on the use of it if you decide to go this route..

Food allergies? try variations in diet (milk, chocolate, peanuts, wheat, etc.)

Massage help maybe?

How is your living situation and/or your emotional/environmental stressors?

Or the now FAMOUS vitamin D3 cure all may help (geez - hope im not becoming another one of those people who push cure-alls)

Magnesium, Folic acid, Boron, Malic acid, Calcium mix?
i.e. Viridian Brand - Calcium, Magnesium with Boron Powder.

Hot soaks in EPSON salts? (Magnesium)

Do you like to eat Salmon? If so.... eat eat eat some oily Fresh Salmon

Lots of people here to help with ideas.

i wish for You quick healing and No more pain ASAP.
Thank-u for all the advice...........peace
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:59 PM   #19
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Hey M, the chemical in red wine is called Resveratrol and I don't think it is used for Arthritis but rather for the heart and circ. system, but still very good for you! Muscadine Wine actually has ten times the amounts of resveratrol as compared to just regular red wine. Did you say something about psoriasis?, if so I highly recommend a product called Diflorasone Diacetate ointment! .05%, works everytime and fairly quick. Also for both Arthritis and Psoriasis you can get Hydrocortizone or Prednizone all from the dermatologist, can't always go natural! I almost guarantee the ointment, good luck.P.S. You can always take fish oil pills too, there are some good ones out there!

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:43 PM   #20
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Something else that I personally have found to work very well is an herb called Cat's Claw. There are two different varieties of it: one is called Uncaria tomentosa and the other is Uncaria guariensis. The one you want is Uncaria tomentosa, so make sure that if you buy capsules at your local health food store, that the Cat's Claw you buy says 'U. tomentosa' somewhere on the label.

Cat's Claw has been the subject of several medical studies with osteo-arthritis patients, and it turns out to have serious anti-inflammatory properties. There have also been tests done on animals, and the herb is in veterinary use. In its native setting (the Amazon Basin), it is used for many different types of inflammatory conditions, including arthritis and urinary tract infections. I started taking it because of an injury to the thumb on my right hand, and it worked so well that I started giving to my aged (14 years old) dog, whose back legs are rather 'creaky' these days. It has made a huge difference in her range-of-motion, so I'm not the only one it's working for, and animals are not subject to the placebo effect, either.

In addition, I second what others have had to say in this thread about Vitamin C, anthocyanins (the anti-oxidant pigments in cherries, pomegranates, blueberries, etc.), and Flax Seed oil (Omega-3 fatty acid). Omega-3 oils are also anti-inflammatory as well as being brain-protective.

I have also had personal experience with acupuncture, which I have found works very well for a number of different things, but it does usually require a series of treatments. It also has been employed in veterinary medicine with good results, so again, said results can't have anything to do with a placebo effect.

I am also adding you to my 'send healing energy to' list, so when I meditate, I will be sure to send something your way.

Peace,

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Old 09-18-2008, 01:56 AM   #21
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Wow. So many suggestions here!

Louise Hay says in her book Heal Your Body that physical conditions are the 3-D manifestation of emotional/psychological states reinforced by persistent thought-patterns. Here are her definitions:

Arthritis is [quote]: "Feeling unloved. Criticism, resentment."
The affirmation to use to form a new thought pattern is [quote]: "I am love. I now choose to love and approve of myself. I see others with love."

Gout is [quote]: "The need to dominate. Impatience, anger."
The affirmation to use [quote]: "I am safe and secure. I am at peace with myself and with others."

Ringworm is [quote]: "Allowing others to get under your skin. Not feeling good enough or clean enough."
The affirmation [quote]: "I love and approve of myself. No person, place or thing has any power over me. I am free."

Psoriasis is [quote]: "Fear of being hurt. Deadening the senses of the self. Refusing to accept responsibility for our own feelings."
The affirmation [quote]: "I am alive to the joys of living. I deserve and accept the very best in life. I love and approve of myself."

I always refer to Louise Hay whenever anything physical is happening with myself. Here is how I use the information: Basically I just read it and drop the thought into my consciousness/subconscious. I might ponder for a moment or two whether I feel that what she says could possibly refer to me. (Usually it does!) And I contemplate the affirmation and see how I feel about that too. Usually I find that I need to be doing something different in my life.

The metaphysics I know says that the physical is the last level of manifestation, and that problems ignored or not dealt with at other levels (mental, emotional, spiritual) WILL find physical expression. I offer these thoughts for contemplation. Perhaps they will help in some way.

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[QUOTE=doodah;17540]Wow. So many suggestions here!

Louise Hay says in her book Heal Your Body that physical conditions are the 3-D manifestation of emotional/psychological states reinforced by persistent thought-patterns. Here are her definitions:

Arthritis is [quote]: "Feeling unloved. Criticism, resentment."
The affirmation to use to form a new thought pattern is [quote]: "I am love. I now choose to love and approve of myself. I see others with love."

Gout is [quote]: "The need to dominate. Impatience, anger."
The affirmation to use [quote]: "I am safe and secure. I am at peace with myself and with others."

Ringworm is [quote]: "Allowing others to get under your skin. Not feeling good enough or clean enough."
The affirmation [quote]: "I love and approve of myself. No person, place or thing has any power over me. I am free."

Psoriasis is [quote]: "Fear of being hurt. Deadening the senses of the self. Refusing to accept responsibility for our own feelings."
The affirmation
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: "I am alive to the joys of living. I deserve and accept the very best in life. I love and approve of myself."

I always refer to Louise Hay whenever anything physical is happening with myself. Here is how I use the information: Basically I just read it and drop the thought into my consciousness/subconscious. I might ponder for a moment or two whether I feel that what she says could possibly refer to me. (Usually it does!) And I contemplate the affirmation and see how I feel about that too. Usually I find that I need to be doing something different in my life.

The metaphysics I know says that the physical is the last level of manifestation, and that problems ignored or not dealt with at other levels (mental, emotional, spiritual) WILL find physical expression. I offer these thoughts for contemplation. Perhaps they will help in some way.
That's really neat I think I will check that out more! Thanks and peace!
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:32 AM   #23
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Many people swear that wearing a "lakhovsky coil" cures arthritis. This is nothing more than a belt made of copper wire (the thicker the copper wire is the better) worn around the waist, so a DIY-job should be relatively simple. Apparently Mr. lakhovsky provided a considerable amount of hard evidence that copper's effects are beneficial to all life, showing that tumors in plants would just wither and die in a relatively short time. No side effects either so nothing to lose. Google for more info.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:57 AM   #24
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I suffer from severe bone decay and walk with a limb for about two years I was a celebrex freak, at night my leg and hip had a song very familiar to those of us suffering from arthritis, OUCH, OUCH, OUCH !!! The solfeggio frequencies help to eliminate my pain 99.9 %. Hey now I can walk without a limb and I sleep like a baby. I have not heard the familiar song for almost a year now. Hey it WORKS !!! Hooray !!! I am just extactic with joy. My lungs did not function and my heart was severely damage , now I can run and lift objects without pain or getting dizzy. At work I am responsible for remodeling 3 buildings . The last year due to the solfeggio frequencies I can honestly say I am a new man. I hope this helps. Try it you'll like it. The solfeggio frequencies has become my life work. Why do they work ? It is like getting a mind and body tune up

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Old 09-18-2008, 04:02 AM   #25
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Check with your doctor, they will have a toxic, ineffective and expensive treatment for your condition. If it doesn't kill you and you still want relief, you may need to think for your self and become self-responsible and self educated. The following is a guideline to follow. Don't do what I say, become your own expert and do what you say.

To understand calcium deposits in joints, kidneys and arteries (arterial plaque) you need to read about nano-bacteria. There is a big controversy over weather or not it is alive but that is irrelevant. It self replicates and forms calcium film around itself and builds up much like sea coral and tarter on your teeth. The inflammation around arthritic joints is a reaction from your immune system to deal with the foreign infection. Since the nano-bacteria protects itself from your immune system with a calcium bio-film, it continues to grow and grind away your joint. The solution to this problem is a two pronged attack:
To stop feeding the nano-bacteria, avoid all refined carbohydrates like white flour, white bread, white rice, white sugar, white pasta, high fructose corn syrup etc. Eat oatmeal, sprouts and salmon (wild caught).
The second thing to do is dissolve the calcium deposits. Do this with apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, magnesium, vitamin D, omega 3 and any other folk remedy that is a known cure for arthritis or known to reduce inflammation (oatmeal for example).
Definitely buy a juicer and juice remain lettuce, carrots, apples etc.
Eliminate all hydrogenated oils from you diet.

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