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I'd be interested in any links that might shed light on the existence and use of machinery that siphons and stores spiritual/life or sexual energy. I have no doubt that this was a part of the Atlantean misuses of power. I've read about the orgone accumulator, but I'm not clear on how it works. It seems that a principal component of its process would be intent. Quote:
The neuropeptides are attached to any addiction, not only sexual or to abuse, but even to depression or paranoia. It's hard to understand that a person can be addicted to what makes them feel bad, and that it requires reprogramming through intent to change that pattern. But, to address the subject of syphoning...It seems that this is most often done with the permission of the donor, which is usually unconsciously given (as would be the case with a concert or occult/religious ritual), though I'm seeing as I write this that there would be ways to take it with force. It seems that whatever we see in the food chain of the organic world is reflected energetically. Syphoning is also being done by the manipulation and control of people's frequencies through television, media and music, and especially through the shaping of our emotional output by focusing on tragedies. It does feel "good" to feel grief. It's an outlet for the trauma we've been carrying for all our lifetimes. When a catastrophic event like 911, or even a singular death, like that of Diana occurs, that output must be enormous. Quote:
Also I think "spirituality advanced" has everything to do with how one treats other people, and much less to do with the type of metaphysical information that we tend to associate with gurus. This is exactly what I was talking about in the "interview with Astralwalker" thread when I joked about writing a book. I've gone on in what may be somewhat of a tangent to this discussion in the Hacking the Genetic Mind thread. |
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I haven't finished it yet but found some things very revealing. It's not entirely conclusive but hey.... what is? Torrents exist, might be easier then hoping to find a real copy. Quote:
![]() The emotional side is what I have been missing from the rituals as 777 illustrates them. Now however, I can see why those rituals release an energy within the masses through those emotions, to me this seems much more important than the fact that symbols are being used. It's still beyond me how those symbols could channel the energy (or whatever it is that steers this process) but now things are slowly falling into place, especially when you mention Princess Diana etc. The focus so far was always on the ritual, the symbolism, not the emotional energy that is focused at the event. Maybe I didn't see the wood for the trees. Thank you. Quote:
I agree that the conduct with other people is probably the main signifier of spiritual development, but sadly the 'spiritual skills' (for the lack of a better term, maybe "Siddhis" does it) don't seem to be handed out on a basis of brownie points. |
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Funny, before I'd even logged on to see your suggestion I'd found a link to that torrent in my mailbox (sent by one of my research associates) and I was already downloading it. Quote:
I have a theory that occult rituals, or religious...no difference there really, are all about creating an energy that some of the people attending will feel. The symbols help, awakening a connection that everyone has to specific archetypal energies or beings. The magical element of performing every step of a ritual process; every word, movement and gesture in precisely the same way as it has been done hundreds, thousands...sometimes millions of times before, creates a sort of dimensional wormhole that attaches that moment to every other moment when that ritual has been performed. This amplifies the energy in a way that couldn't be accomplished otherwise. One of the main purposes, at least in the case of religious ceremony, is that an energy will be released that is powerful enough to have an emotional effect on those present. Since people are generally superstitious and tend not to observe from any kind of scientific or logical point of view, most who would feel the energy, especially in a positive or ecstatic manner, will be convinced that higher forces are at work...especially since that would have been the purported intent in the first place. It must be God, what other explanation could there be? It only takes a few who feel the energy to bring many of their family and friends back with them. How many families are dragged to church because the family matriarch had an ecstatic experience and was convinced that God Himself had shown her the light? It's good to understand that emotional ecstasy does not always emanate from the highest of sources and that an array of dark motives can be hidden under it's cloak. Edit: the previous 4 posts came in while I was composing this. I don't know what to think about your "abuse" issues, so I'll leave that alone. Be aware though, that the siphoning of emotional energy is big business as well as small business, and also a part of behavior within the natural hierarchy of creatures. I'll return later with an anecdote to shed some light on that facet of it. Last edited by sun-toonŽ; 02-24-2009 at 11:43 PM. |
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Thank you man! Now it all falls in place. And in fact I might have conducted my own little ritual here. o_o |
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Here's another type of energetic siphoning that I've experienced. I've never tried to relate this anecdote in writing before, and I’ve told only a few people about it, but I'll give it a try.
This happened a couple years ago in a small town in Ohio. It was the middle of the morning and I'd just made a quick stop at the bank. As I was driving out towards the main highway I could see that something was going on up ahead at the intersection...vehicles parked askew, and people milling around. When I got up to the corner it turned out to be a serious traffic accident. A small car crossing the highway from the other direction had been hit broadside by a pickup truck. The car was knocked off the road where it had traveled up an embankment and crashed into a large boulder. It was an eerie scene, the air was still and cold and it was quietly snowing large flakes. A few people had stopped to help, but it had happened only moments earlier and there were no emergency workers around. I pulled over to see if I could help, but there didn't seem to be anything I could do. The man who'd been driving the truck was lying on the side of the road where someone was working over him and a couple people were over by the wrecked car. There were others, witnesses I suppose standing around already, so rather than be in the way, I just turned and carefully drove through the intersection and up the hill. I was feeling so helpless, and struck by the thought that there was nothing that could be done that I was overwhelmed and started crying. The emergency vehicles were coming towards me and a few minutes later as I drove into town I saw the rescue helicopter flying towards the scene. I could feel both a psychic and emotional impact in my chest. Though I didn't know it at that moment, I found out later that woman in the car was dead at the scene. She was a worker at the bank I'd been at, on her way there and had driven straight through the stop sign without seeing it. The man from the truck was eventually OK, though he was seriously injured. It was the image of him, lying there unconscious on the roadside, with the snow falling on him that kept coming back to me all day. All during the day while I was working I was overwhelmed with grief. I was alone there, and didn't have to put on any pretenses, so I just let if flow through me. It came in waves a couple times an hour in the form of pure despair. I thought about the man lying helpless and I cried. I thought about my father, who'd recently died and cried some more. I thought about my family situation which had been crumbling around me and cried over that, and this went on periodically for several hours. By the time I left work it was dark, and I was just about spent while I drove the 20 miles back home. As I was exiting the interstate, the feeling of despair came over me again. By then I was wiped out. I felt like I'd cried for every trauma I'd experienced in every past life...and suddenly the light bulb came on. I thought "wait - a - minute", and that was all it took to break the spell. I could feel the "rider" that was still attached to me and also how it had been triggering exactly the thoughts that would evoke the emotional frequency of grief. I've had psychic attacks before and used different methods for dealing with them, but this time I didn't pray or ask for any assistance. Instead I calmly set the intent to drive back to the scene of the accident and leave it there, which is what I did. As I drove through the intersection, which was cleaned up and empty, I simply turned, and as I drove back up that hill again, I could feel that it was gone. When I "looked" back on the situation, I was able to discern what had happened. I saw the creature, some kind of elemental that had a wormlike appearance. It was clear, like it made out of water, and swam through the air. There had actually been a group, or cloud of them, hovering over the accident scene, and they'd been attracted to the emotional energy of the traumatic circumstances. It didn't feel evil, but it was a parasite. It held a kind of intelligence which felt like that of an animal...but simple, like a mosquito or a leech. All it needed was the instinct of how to push my grief buttons and it had me for a meal all day. I'm not very studied in mythology, but I've been told there are stories about creatures like this and names for them, though no one has been able to point me to those. I hope this isn't too long, but I felt I needed to relate the circumstances to better illuminate the nature of the parasite. It was definitely siphoning my energy, but in some way it was healing as well, because in the days after that I was emptied of the feeling of trauma...which often seems like it’s a background layer to my being. I do think we come into this dimension already traumatized. I've never had this happen again, but I think it's good to be aware that some of the emotional siphoning going on isn't being done by other people, sorcerers, evil spirits or astral machinery. It also happens in a somewhat organic manner. Last edited by sun-toonŽ; 02-25-2009 at 04:41 PM. |
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![]() In fact, it might be just what's necessary to get to the ground of this, sharing those stories of being drained and having someone that listens always uncovers more than was thought before, I think. I find it interesting, that you say that the parasite wasn't evil as such, and that the experience was in a way, healing. It is exactly that which has been going through my head today, however I would have never thought of returning to the accident and 'bringing the parasite home'. Both your experience and mine seem to confirm that emotional energy isn't only inherent as a charge in the body but can also detach itself, being left behind like garbage. I had the following thoughts come to me: On this plane, it seems as if emotions work in fact like electrical charges. As we carry them and move around, these charges jump from bearer to bearer, what could explain the sudden anger discharges without reason that many of us know... this general 'scapegoating' that seems so inherent to human nature. On another plane, maybe it is possible that the energies or their products (garbage and 'love and light'?) actually are left behind, sort of hovering in the ether, ready to be picked up by another electrically charged magnet that has a receptive polarisation. I hope you get the picture. However, I wonder, if there is a syphoning going on that is actually directed, especially in a case as you described it sun-toon, there needs to be an element that picks up those traces of emotion in the ether and forwards them, a sort of scavenger or parasite as you call them. There are two concepts that support this in my mind, the first already mentioned, that emotional energies don't only swing as part of one's presence/aura but actually detach under certain conditions. The second is the absence of any kinetic/intentional force giving a vector or speed to that released emotion, especially in this case of an accident. So to say, the absence of a ritual that focuses attention, the absence of a 'wormhole' that does the syphoning. This may be spoken in the blue, admitted, but I would highly welcome anybody who would wish to share his/her experience along these lines or correct my model. Thanks for all your collaboration! |
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I was thinking of it like the radiance of a lightbulb, one which some people can see as an aspect of our auras, but from 4d it might be much more profound. So...as with light or electrical charges the emissions can be collected and stored using various means, whether organic, chemical or mechanical. I don't think it "detaches" any more than light waves detach from the sun...although I suppose it's true that the particle element of light, its photons, could be considered detached. What if, in the next higher vibrational plane, there was a more viscous or even solid element to the emanations? Quote:
On a related note, I think the overall field of all the emotional energy being produced by 6 billion people is affecting the planet both physically and energetically, and that because we're in general so out of balance with the natural order, it may be a worse form of pollution than almost anything else we create. If this is true then the opposite effect would occur, if as 6 billion emotional generators, we produced a balanced and loving emotional field. There's another aspect of this that I find intriguing. What is the source is of emotional energy in the first place? I don't think humans create it, but that it is created in some elemental form by the earth or through our integration with 3d manifestation. We then transform it, through a natural alchemical process, into various varieties and frequencies, depending on how we feel. This is the aspect that's being influenced in the interests of making the planet a loosh farm. So what is this stuff? Obviously living creatures don't need it to live, and it's mainly humans who seem to be producing it. Yes it would be great if others offered input on this, especially some who dropped out of the discussion earlier for whatever reasons...since we've now taken it in some other directions. Last edited by sun-toonŽ; 02-26-2009 at 01:31 AM. |
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QUOTE: "But still, as there is no thinker behind the thoughts, how do you come up with a really new idea?"
I would like that expounded upon please... as I've missed something about this along my journey. I see that the real essential 'me' is not my thoughts, but the witness of them... is that close to what you mean? thank you. I'm so tired, full day, just need the above quote clarified. |
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Avayaktam, as always the problem here is a matter of semantics. Call it Brahman or God or call it none of it, and man, I guess the very fact of naming it, is what makes the squirrel scurry away once more.
I agree wholeheartedly however that the "Baxter predicament" might lead to self-destruction through the very things one fights against. It's basically a lack of trust too profound, as opposed to the naivety we're discussing here. Yet again there is a balance to be found. What tools does man even have left for discernment? Quote:
EpiphaMe, this was a quote uttered, I do not remember by who but it was on Avalon (at least my conception of it). It's become one of the truest concepts for me, that all my thoughts seem to be merely more memes that I attract through my attitude. The question is, I guess, not who's thinking, but why.... or rather, why does there need to be an entity that thinks? I have the feeling that our horizon is clogged full of thoughts and concepts that the more rare ones, possibly the more valuable ones at that, are beyond our reach. I do not know if there is a finite or infinite amount of thoughts. But there surely seems to be those that are more remote, suppressed and thus almost non-existent. |
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5612945376394 i'm counting right now how many times you ask the same questions in different form.Thats the power of speech. 1348548394 I count every thing i'm still counting. I can't seem to stop I won't stop
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To syphon something is to take or empty something into another container.
Focus is a point at which rays of light, sound, or heat converge(energy). To focus energy or attention to something is a ritual. Symbols are used to invoke, focus, or emote energy. If you think symbols have no energy then walk into a synagogue with a swastika on your arm and see what power a symbol has. But the swastika was a revered and loved symbol before Hitler, a symbol being neither good or bad, its the intention. We are sold or marketed events and rituals to direct ,or syphon our energy if you are not watching your focus is not going on what is really going on just directed in the direction they want or , hocus pocus, sleight of hand. 9/11 marketed a product and a ritual, the Patriot Act, sold with flags waving, your rights removed for your protection, home of the free doomed. It marketed the Home Land Security, another fraud selling what is said to be good as a document very similar in content as what the Nazi Homeland sold when they burned the Reichstag. Products like 7UP, keep one down. What they say is up is down, what they say is good is bad and people buy it, the trademark. 7UP is just chemicals in a can that keep you down, distract people from drinking water. Right there that is enough but it is also laden with other meanings that even if you do not wish to see them they are there. |
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The question still remains, how does one harness the energy. We speak of ritual, behaviour, diffusion of our awareness, buying into a lie, loading a symbol with intention.
I say not that this has nothing to do with a process of syphoning, but it is not the direct process alluded to in the article above. How does meaning influence reality? Why would I care that 7up from M is G. What is G? A C and a T? So now I have my tools to make new words and meanings. Why do I even need those meanings when the intention is enough? I can give you toothpaste with the intention of helping you build a castle. Is that random? No? I'm sure I can find a connection somewhere in our communication systems. Do I need it? Meaning influences us when understood, also subconsciously. Does the conscious override the subconscious or vice versa? Can they work together? Have we been manipulated to have conscious and subconscious oppose each other? Are they turned upside down? I ask you for a cup. You give me the tea. Do you expect me to burn my hands? |
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Part 2: The external motive, that which the group focuses on, is just a way of assisting concentration, like an anchor, as they say. It has nothing to do with the actual target of the energy (at least not imperatively). The actual targets are thus concealed from the group. The participants are thus the 'sleepers' who simply lend their focal energy as a kind of 'free energy'. The one who wakes is the one who knows the actual vector powered by the groups force that is being tapped into (of course this doesn't imply that this is just one person, but the avengers [not sure why this term is used here] may be in no way a part of the 'sleepers). A few more questions come up immediately in response to this: 1. How is the energy of a group tapped into? 2. What changes to reality can a group of humans actually make? 3. Can one, as an outsider to the process, prove that such a dynamic has as described here has taken place? Let us get back to item 1 later. In the course of this article, you will find that these group energy processes exist and that they are being used already. The 'how', however, is usually kept top secret by the initiated. One item 2 I want to remark that it has nothing to do with the famous 'moving of mountains'. British research has recently proven that even the synchronous jumping of thousands of people can not cause an earthquake [strange proof, these issues have nothing to do with each other in my mind]. Yet, there are processes and happenings in the world that aren't as solid as mountains because they are unstable or chaotic in nature. The weather is such a system just like the stock market and the big financial markets, generally all individuals and collective human consciousness processes, and also in science all kinds of random processes as they appear in quantum physics. In the quantum mechanics of the smallest part there are no longer any exact sizes. One can only calculate probabilities for the speeds and positions that describe where the part[icle] can be found. Also the decay of radioactive material can only be predicted with probabilities, that is why such materials are excellent for the construction of randomness generators. Researchers in the USA have observed the impact of large mass happenings on such quantum mechanic randomness generators for years. Their results show, that the group consciousness can in fact imprint a structure [of non-randomness]. Hence, physical processes are being manipulated as well. Rather similar results can be observed with a computer program, a particular randomness generator developed by us can be found as a part of the Hyper2000 Professional software package. Peace Meditations change the Randomness For a long time already we work side by side with the polish fringe scientific magazine Nieznany Swiat (Unknown World). We are very familiar with the chief editor [?] Marek Rymuszko and his wife, publishing executive Anna Ostrzycka and have, shared many experiences in the last few years. What we experienced on the 30th December 2000 was quite extraordinary, however. The editorial staff of Nieznany Swiat has called on its readership to conduct a large group meditation to support world peace. The magazine appears monthly with over 50 000 copies and is read not only in Poland but also in Canada, the USA, Sweden, Germany, Austria, Australia and other countries. The readership was not asked to meet somewhere but to meditate at home. The shared focus should then concentrate the energies. The set time was the 30th December 2000 between 20:00 (8pm) and 20:30 (8:30pm). We agreed by telephone that we would not participate but instead observe if the groups energy would influence the randomness generator. As the program was tested 18:30 (6:30pm) on that day, all was as usual and within the expected fluctuations. We then turned the machine on between 19:55 and 20:35, during which the program executed 13 650 000 simulations of a dice roll, a rather large amount of data, that allows statistical interpretation. The task of this program is to guess the most occurring number within 30 000 rolls. We don't want to bore you further with statistical details. However, there is no doubt that during those 30 minutes of the meditations duration the results where way beyond the usual (randomness). The graph [not included here but you will get the same experiment in Gregg Braden's research if you're not already familiar with it] also shows clearly that the group was very well tuned into the state of deep meditation (clear undercutting of the normal values). The probability of these deviations from randomness being a result of chance is about 1:246. Please pay close attention to the following parts in the graphic [I skipped this as the graphic is not present]. The graph shows clearly that the randomness generator has reacted to both the beginning and the end of the meditation. When the sum of successful hits in a certain interval are displayed in a histogram of six minutes per pillar, it is obvious that there are many more hits between 20:00 and 20:30 than usual. We want to clarify once more that we ourselves have not participated in the meditation nor observed the results of the randomness generator during this time to diminish other direct influence (i.e. psychokinetic). To understand how such a mechanism operates one has to understand what the term 'random' means in today's scientific context. Many of you are sure to remark at this point that 'chance' doesn't exist in an esoteric context. It is indeed possible that randomness (something that falls toward us [German word is to-fall - Zufall] is just a term for something that science can not yet explain. On the other hand, we also know that an effect without a cause is impossible. If we thus conclude that something is 'chance' or random, we actually mean that the incident does have a cause, yet we do not know that cause. The cause can be in the past or even in another dimension. Other recent research lets us assume that consciousness processes, especially in context with group consciousness, can be the cause of randomness interference. Researches in America, as stated, observed randomness for many years now and the results are pedantically logged. The cause is to find out whether the randomness is interfered with on days of mass happenings. The answer to this question is a decisive 'yes'. The peace meditation of Warsaw is not the only incident during which such strong changes can be observed in a randomness generator. Another example of recent times are the first days of military conflict in Afghanistan in October of 2001 which leads us back to the beginning of the article. It seems as if the Americans [as mentioned before, this shall mean 'American government'] had succeeded in generating a consciousness focus that held vast amounts of the world's population in front of the TV. Our randomness generator showed even stronger deviations on the 9th of October, between 10:30 (am) and 14:30 (2:30pm), Washinton Time. The probability of this being a cause of randomness [random non-randomness?] was 1:6500 this time around. The reason for this is probably that the group was that much larger than in the previous example. What the energies of these weeks has really been used for can only be speculated. Who uses this unleashed energy? Only a single time could we measure no impact at all when a large happening was occurring. It was christmas eve [24. of December in Germany] of 1999. At midnight, Pope Johannes Paul II. [John Paul?] opened the Holy Gate in the Vatican and initiated thus the holy year. The ceremony was broadcast into the whole world, even Cuba [why do they mention that?], and was observed by about two billion people from their home TV sets. Yet, the randomness generator run as usual. Does this imply that the catholic church has means of channeling this spiritual energy? Also in the case of the Afghanistan conflict, probably not all of the energy was 'available' to our randomness generator as we have seen deviations much more extreme. The most of extreme deviation in fact was during the solar eclipse of the 12th of August 1999. While millions of people in all of europe were witnesses of this exciting spectacle our randomness generator registered a deviation of more than one to one million! Surely the group of people that observed the solar eclipse must have been smaller than the one watching the news broadcast about the war. Where large amounts of their energies also channelled? You might want to say now that the influencing of a dice program isn't too impressive. Please regard that we use of measuring this as neutrally as possible on purpose. Our goal was to prove the possibility of influencing reality, not utilising the energy to any end! What other, who understand the connections of these processes, make of this however is only left for us to imagine as there is very little talk in the public about such topics. Mankind stands on the threshold of a new age of consciousness. It is clear that ego-thinking will be of little use in today's time. The development of a higher group awareness will be necessary if mankind as a whole wants to survive on this planet. Simultaneously we have to be aware that almost all discoveries are firstly available to the ones in power. Attention should thus be paid by us to evaluate whether they are worthy of our trust. Grasping Randomness Most of the scientific randomness generators run on the principles of quantum fluctuation. Such a non-predictable process is present in, for example, the radioactive decay of Thorium or the radioactive isotope Strontium 90. During the decay of Strontium 90, super fast electrons are being emitted in unpredictable intervals. This is used as a source for very reliable randomness generators in psi-experiments. For example, this can be used in connection with a apparatus which has differently coloured lamps. This way one can cause a completely random glowing pattern. By the force of her will the experimenter tries to predict the next lamp to light up. During incidents of global resonance [nice rhyme], scientists turn on these kinds of apparatus even without the presence of an experimenter and observe their behaviour. A similar principle lends itself to our Hyper 2000 Professional Randomness Generator developed by Franz Bludorf. It is connected to the system clock of a computer. Instead of lamps, the rolling of a die is simulated. Simultaneously, the computer attempts to guess what numbers comes most often. Every five seconds, one of these guesses with each 30 000 rolls is completed. According to general probability, about each sixth throw should be a hit (a success rate of 16,7%). Should the hit-rate deviate drastically from this value, one can assume that certain external factors are taking responsible. If one wants to measure a persons ability to use psi forces, one has to incorporate that person into this loop. To test outer influences however, such as cosmic influences, magnetic field fluctuations, sun activity or human mass movements, the apparatus can be left in 'autopilot' so to say. Then, the computer itself guesses each 5 seconds and logs the results. The experimenter doesn't need to stand by and watch over the experiment being conducted, she can indeed even leave the room. Like this, unintended influence can be prevented and the evaluation remains neutral and objective. |
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