*consider this*

[quest]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Quest just asking, have you started a group or are you starting a group ?
Two basic things needed is time and money . Since the recent rise of gas prices went to the sky Hydrogen became an option,not very expensive at work 50 % of my coworkers where informed, (about 200 people).Only two converted the cars to hydrogen. So just informing people sometimes is not a solution creating communities is a bit more effective.
survival is not guarantee but that does not mean we can't try.

Hi Frank, about groups, I’ve been of and on involved in eco-projects for quite some years now. and luckily i live in an aria with a few organic farmers with health stores nearby and befriended with them. so i guess a kind of 'groups' have grown in a natural way over the years. i try to bike as much as possible, but i always had converted the cars i owned, so that they could run on natural gas. of course not a first choice but anyways.
the idea of focussing on survival doesn’t appeal to me though, i rather work on alternatives and on my mind settings, personal growth etc. i more and more realise that a focused mind is a powerful tool, so why not skip the survival and go for that sustainable world right away.

Originally Posted by whitecrow

Well I for one hadn't seen that post until just now. It's darn interesting, as a matter of fact. I think most folks aren't ready to contemplate such a commitment to the unknown at this time...but it'll come. For you and those others who ARE ready...It's great that you're collecting the information because it will be needed, I'm quite sure.

Hi Whitecrow, i thought this way of thinking, 'transition initiatives' would fit perfectly into avalons philosophies, so i was surprised no one responded.
i did send the site and article to Bill and Kerry, but i actually doubt if they will make an effort to interview Rob Hopkins. These kind of projects can make a substantial difference. and i do not have that feeling with listening to stories about greys that may or may not enter this or that timeline in case etc etc. of course fascinating to listen to, but you just don’t grow potatoes that way.