Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40

Dantheman62 · 11-13-2009, 07:46 PM

The reason I'm posting this is because of the cloud seeding that they've been doing over there! Don't mess with mother nature!!!

Fri Nov 13, 10:28 am ET

BEIJING – Unusually early snow storms in north-central China have claimed 40 lives, caused thousands of buildings to collapse and destroyed almost 500,000 acres (200,000 hectares) of winter crops, the Civil Affairs Ministry said Friday.

Nineteen of the deaths resulted from traffic accidents related to the storms that began Nov. 9, the ministry said in a statement on its Web site.

The snowfall is the heaviest in the northern and central provinces of Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Shandong and Henan since record keeping began after the establishment of the Communist state in 1949, the ministry said without giving detailed figures. It estimated economic losses from the storm at 4.5 billion yuan (US$659 million).

Chinese state media say some of the snow was induced through cloud seeding, although the precise amount of snowfall in all areas was not reported and it wasn't clear what the previous records were.

Hebei's provincial capital, Shijiazhuang, received the heaviest snowfall — 3.7 inches (9.4 centimeters) — on Nov. 10, the day of the heaviest flurries. Neighboring Beijing, which usually suffers through long, cold and extremely dry winters, reported about 1 inch (2.5 centimeters).

More than 7.5 million people have been stranded or otherwise affected by the storms, which caused the collapse of more than 9,000 buildings, damaged 470,000 acres (190,000 hectares) of crops, and forced the evacuation of 158,000 people, the ministry said.

State media have reported at least two deaths were caused by the collapse of buildings, including a school cafeteria.

Beijing has been hit by three successive waves of snow, causing havoc on roadways and forcing the cancellation or delay of scores of flights.

The capital and surrounding areas are little prepared to deal with such heavy snow, with few plows or road deicing supplies. Snow tires and chains are almost unknown and many drivers simply leave their cars at home and turn to public transport in such conditions.

The impact has been far greater in the surrounding provinces of Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Shandong and Henan, where highways have been closed, schools shuttered, and crews sent to rescue people in their snowbound homes.

Freak snow and ice storms last year hit parts of eastern and southern China unaccustomed to such weather. Those storms paralyzed key transport systems just as millions of migrant workers were heading home for the Lunar New Year holiday, leading to more than 80 deaths and billions of dollars in damage.

GaiaLove · 11-13-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Hebei's provincial capital, Shijiazhuang, received the heaviest snowfall — 3.7 inches (9.4 centimeters) — on Nov. 10, the day of the heaviest flurries. Neighboring Beijing, which usually suffers through long, cold and extremely dry winters, reported about 1 inch (2.5 centimeters).

umm, call me a ignorant canuck but wtf?
A typical storm here in Quebec is 10-40 cm and nothing stops, not even the planes..
I don't get it.

Northern Boy · 11-13-2009, 08:44 PM

Hell I can remember driving in Squalls that have dumped 6 to 12 inchs of snow
where they have even closed the roads down . Seems strange that roofs would be collapsing because of this little amount. Let alone have people die because of it. Not shooting the messager here just the message

Dantheman62 · 11-13-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Boy

Hell I can remember driving in Squalls that have dumped 6 to 12 inchs of snow
where they have even closed the roads down . Seems strange that roofs would be collapsing because of this little amount. Let alone have people die because of it. Not shooting the messager here just the message

Yeah me too! I don't get it either!
It's ok, you can shoot me, I've been shot before! (in the foot while camping, LOL) but that's another story.

Maybe it's because their building construction is so far below par that it can't take any weight. Here's one pic.....

Reuters – The roof of a PetroChina gas station collapses after heavy snow in Xingtai, Hebei province, November

Dantheman62 · 11-13-2009, 10:01 PM

Sorry, I couldn't resist......

happyhollergal · 11-14-2009, 05:16 AM

Dan, the Chinese thing is hilarious. Thanks for the giggles.

I still think that when folks fool around with the weather, bad things will happen beyond what they foresee and intend. Of course, who knows. They also may have people practicing population reduction. I feel terrible for those innocent citizens.

gscraig · 11-30-2009, 09:57 PM

I happen to be currently reviewing Nostradamus material and this reminded me of a quatrain.

Centuri I, Quatrain 22
Devices developed by man to manipulate the weather will go awry because of faulty porgamming, they will cause a great deal of damage through unseasonal ice and hail. The scientists don't understand the forces they are dealing with and that the natural weather pattern will ovecome interference in attempting to attain proper balance.

The more unfortunate aspect of this quatrain is that it was prophesied to happen during Nostradamus' well known "Time of Troubles".

waitinginthewings · 11-30-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gscraig

I happen to be currently reviewing Nostradamus material and this reminded me of a quatrain.

Centuri I, Quatrain 22
Devices developed by man to manipulate the weather will go awry because of faulty porgamming, they will cause a great deal of damage through unseasonal ice and hail. The scientists don't understand the forces they are dealing with and that the natural weather pattern will ovecome interference in attempting to attain proper balance.

The more unfortunate aspect of this quatrain is that it was prophesied to happen during Nostradamus' well known "Time of Troubles".

When is the "Time of Troubles"?

THE eXchanger · 11-30-2009, 11:15 PM

less than 4" ???

that doesn't make any sense

of course, we likely could get 4" in a few hours

and, i've also driven through those 6-12" squalls too

i know they created a very rare type of dam there

and, moved a lot of people - into the flood plains, around it

one day, likely there will be an event like 'katrina'

it is really , really sad

gscraig · 12-06-2009, 12:13 PM

The Time of Troubles is the period of time Nostradamus predicted political upheaval/fallout, possible wwwIII, uncivil rest and earth changes.

11-13-2009, 07:46 PM	#1
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 The reason I'm posting this is because of the cloud seeding that they've been doing over there! Don't mess with mother nature!!! Fri Nov 13, 10:28 am ET BEIJING – Unusually early snow storms in north-central China have claimed 40 lives, caused thousands of buildings to collapse and destroyed almost 500,000 acres (200,000 hectares) of winter crops, the Civil Affairs Ministry said Friday. Nineteen of the deaths resulted from traffic accidents related to the storms that began Nov. 9, the ministry said in a statement on its Web site. The snowfall is the heaviest in the northern and central provinces of Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Shandong and Henan since record keeping began after the establishment of the Communist state in 1949, the ministry said without giving detailed figures. It estimated economic losses from the storm at 4.5 billion yuan (US$659 million). Chinese state media say some of the snow was induced through cloud seeding, although the precise amount of snowfall in all areas was not reported and it wasn't clear what the previous records were. Hebei's provincial capital, Shijiazhuang, received the heaviest snowfall — 3.7 inches (9.4 centimeters) — on Nov. 10, the day of the heaviest flurries. Neighboring Beijing, which usually suffers through long, cold and extremely dry winters, reported about 1 inch (2.5 centimeters). More than 7.5 million people have been stranded or otherwise affected by the storms, which caused the collapse of more than 9,000 buildings, damaged 470,000 acres (190,000 hectares) of crops, and forced the evacuation of 158,000 people, the ministry said. State media have reported at least two deaths were caused by the collapse of buildings, including a school cafeteria. Beijing has been hit by three successive waves of snow, causing havoc on roadways and forcing the cancellation or delay of scores of flights. The capital and surrounding areas are little prepared to deal with such heavy snow, with few plows or road deicing supplies. Snow tires and chains are almost unknown and many drivers simply leave their cars at home and turn to public transport in such conditions. The impact has been far greater in the surrounding provinces of Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Shandong and Henan, where highways have been closed, schools shuttered, and crews sent to rescue people in their snowbound homes. Freak snow and ice storms last year hit parts of eastern and southern China unaccustomed to such weather. Those storms paralyzed key transport systems just as millions of migrant workers were heading home for the Lunar New Year holiday, leading to more than 80 deaths and billions of dollars in damage.

11-13-2009, 08:44 PM	#3
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 Hell I can remember driving in Squalls that have dumped 6 to 12 inchs of snow where they have even closed the roads down . Seems strange that roofs would be collapsing because of this little amount. Let alone have people die because of it. Not shooting the messager here just the message

11-13-2009, 10:01 PM	#5
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 Sorry, I couldn't resist......

11-14-2009, 05:16 AM	#6
happyhollergal Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 181	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 Dan, the Chinese thing is hilarious. Thanks for the giggles. I still think that when folks fool around with the weather, bad things will happen beyond what they foresee and intend. Of course, who knows. They also may have people practicing population reduction. I feel terrible for those innocent citizens.

11-30-2009, 09:57 PM	#7
gscraig Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 335	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 I happen to be currently reviewing Nostradamus material and this reminded me of a quatrain. Centuri I, Quatrain 22 Devices developed by man to manipulate the weather will go awry because of faulty porgamming, they will cause a great deal of damage through unseasonal ice and hail. The scientists don't understand the forces they are dealing with and that the natural weather pattern will ovecome interference in attempting to attain proper balance. The more unfortunate aspect of this quatrain is that it was prophesied to happen during Nostradamus' well known "Time of Troubles".

11-30-2009, 11:15 PM	#9
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 less than 4" ??? that doesn't make any sense of course, we likely could get 4" in a few hours and, i've also driven through those 6-12" squalls too i know they created a very rare type of dam there and, moved a lot of people - into the flood plains, around it one day, likely there will be an event like 'katrina' it is really , really sad

12-06-2009, 12:13 PM	#10
gscraig Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 335	Re: Heavy snow storms in northern China kill 40 The Time of Troubles is the period of time Nostradamus predicted political upheaval/fallout, possible wwwIII, uncivil rest and earth changes.