A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time.

iainl140285 · 11-28-2008, 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=Carol;88321]If the grid is going down one would likely be expecting a CME or something from the heavens that would impact orbiting satillites.

Thats exactly what I thought of Carol.
Being prepared is of course just good common sense BUT everyone, please remember nothing is set in stone. NOTHING. Do not breed fear - everything will, as always. happen as its supposed to

Be Safe
Peace
Iain

Sol Invictus · 11-28-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by iainl140285

Do not breed fear

I am not breeding fear. I am telling you though about sensible, rational well thought of professional people who have said in stark terms ' be ready'. They say sept 2009, i'll be ready middle of august at the latest.

If you want to live and let live, then I will never, ever say anything against decisions made by others that effect them and not me.

iainl140285 · 11-28-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

I am not breeding fear. I am telling you though about sensible, rational well thought of professional people who have said in stark terms ' be ready'. They say sept 2009, i'll be ready middle of august at the latest.

If you want to live and let live, then I will never, ever say anything against decisions made by others that effect them and not me.

Hi Sol, that was not directed at you specifically.
If anything I would hope that all who knew of a coming event would be brave enough to share that info.

It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

We are all capable of more, that I promise you. What if everyone banded together if/when a crisis occurs?

Lets start preparing for that if this thing is going to happen

Pecae, love and light
Regards
Iain

Ammit · 11-28-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote: It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

Ok, what will you do hand over your food with a welcome back anytime voucher?.

Yes, they are possibillities, but very real ones the same as the forum is possillities but because of this forum you as you say "hunker down in your bunker", why does this site make you think at some stage you may need to.
Having come from a big uk city, and witnessed murder for a teaspoon full of drugs, homes robbed while you sat watching tv and my friends brother put in hospital as a cabbage for £5 in his wallet.

Possibillities, more a reality then you think my friend.

iainl140285 · 11-28-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit

Quote: It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

Ok, what will you do hand over your food with a welcome back anytime voucher?.

Yes, they are possibillities, but very real ones the same as the forum is possillities but because of this forum you as you say "hunker down in your bunker", why does this site make you think at some stage you may need to.
Having come from a big uk city, and witnessed murder for a teaspoon full of drugs, homes robbed while you sat watching tv and my friends brother put in hospital as a cabbage for £5 in his wallet.

Possibillities, more a reality then you think my friend.

Yes thats what I'll do - make up vouchers and food stamps! Come on. Im not talking about feeding the thousands. If groups of neighbours band together it will be a lot safer.

And yes - certain posts on this forum suggest (to me) that people are preparing to go it alone.

Lets continue this line of thought in Sept.
Until then, I'll keep

Best Regards
Iain

Ammit · 11-28-2008, 05:04 PM

ok, let me explain what I plan for my neibours or anyone else I find who , if this happens may need help..

I am setting up a system of water containers 120 gallons each, my garden by then would have produced as last year an abundance of food, packed and stored ready for use, I have almost completed 4 barrell turbines each capable of about 1kW.

This is done at my own expense as I cannot bunker down anywhere and will have to ride it out with my family and my nearest neibours. The power if the grid goes down would not only be for lighting mine and others houses but also to keep freezers working as this is the most convenient way to preserve food and most people nowadays have an abundance of frozen whatever that could keep them going that little bit longer.

My hope is that if things go wrong then, when the neibours are in shock and dont know what to do, I can gather them up, share things out and maybe help them work as a community.

Only a thought, but I think its a nice one.

feardia · 11-28-2008, 05:11 PM

Thats all you can do ammit, and there should be plenty of nuts and berries about around that time of year, i'm fed up with tesco's poison anyway.

Carol · 11-28-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit

ok, let me explain what I plan for my neibours or anyone else I find who , if this happens may need help..

I am setting up a system of water containers 120 gallons each, my garden by then would have produced as last year an abundance of food, packed and stored ready for use, I have almost completed 4 barrell turbines each capable of about 1kW.

This is done at my own expense as I cannot bunker down anywhere and will have to ride it out with my family and my nearest neibours. The power if the grid goes down would not only be for lighting mine and others houses but also to keep freezers working as this is the most convenient way to preserve food and most people nowadays have an abundance of frozen whatever that could keep them going that little bit longer.

My hope is that if things go wrong then, when the neibours are in shock and dont know what to do, I can gather them up, share things out and maybe help them work as a community.

Only a thought, but I think its a nice one.

A tip for freezers is to fill empty milk cartons with water and layer them along the bottom and sides of your freezer. Dry ice is good to have on hand as well. One can also bury an insulated container using the same formula of frozen milk containers with food in the middle. Insulate with stray bales is another way to go.. only line the outside of the bales with a heavy grade plastic to prevent seapage and rotting. Meats really are best if smoked or dried where they can be rehydrated later. However, I've been storing dry salami and cheese which is covered in wax which protects it as well. Basics... oatmeal, rice, seed sprouts, wheat, pasta, spices, sugar, powered milk, dehydrated fruits and vegetables, water. Materials to build hydroponic system.. cheap.. I'll get both the plans and material list to everyone on the forum.

Check out www.friendlyaquaponics.com They are building their website and are at the cutting edge of producing nutricious, fast growing (1/2 the time) food production. Complete system grows fish, prawns, fruit and vetetables.

Frank Samuel · 11-28-2008, 05:44 PM

Day to Day there's events unfolding, I often wonder how is it possible for us to remain alive in this planet when we are doing everything possible to destroy the very thing that is giving us life. I do believe the Earth itself is protecting us. Despite the irresponsible acts against the ecosystem of this planet the planet is working 24/7 to keep us alive. Our egos are so big as to think ourselves the center of everything. Wether we survive a major catastrophe or not , something needs to change within our concious, I do believe unconciously the planet is forcing us to evolve. Continuing on this self destructive path will eventually extinguish the human race from the face of this planet. Little by little we are finally learning our lesson and several groups have evolved to stop the self destruction of all. Is easy to point the fingers to others and think ourselves free of guilt, is time to take action stand your ground and fight against the very thing destroying our planet, ourselves. Be grateful to this planet for every breath we take, do not take anything for granted be humble enough to accept that there's things beyond our control. May we all evolve to see a future of concious humility and gratitude to the very thing giving all of us life mother earth.

11-28-2008, 02:09 PM	#1
iainl140285 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 974	Re: A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time. [QUOTE=Carol;88321]If the grid is going down one would likely be expecting a CME or something from the heavens that would impact orbiting satillites. Thats exactly what I thought of Carol. Being prepared is of course just good common sense BUT everyone, please remember nothing is set in stone. NOTHING. Do not breed fear - everything will, as always. happen as its supposed to Be Safe Peace Iain

11-28-2008, 04:39 PM	#4
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time. Quote: It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about. Ok, what will you do hand over your food with a welcome back anytime voucher?. Yes, they are possibillities, but very real ones the same as the forum is possillities but because of this forum you as you say "hunker down in your bunker", why does this site make you think at some stage you may need to. Having come from a big uk city, and witnessed murder for a teaspoon full of drugs, homes robbed while you sat watching tv and my friends brother put in hospital as a cabbage for £5 in his wallet. Possibillities, more a reality then you think my friend.

11-28-2008, 05:04 PM	#6
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time. ok, let me explain what I plan for my neibours or anyone else I find who , if this happens may need help.. I am setting up a system of water containers 120 gallons each, my garden by then would have produced as last year an abundance of food, packed and stored ready for use, I have almost completed 4 barrell turbines each capable of about 1kW. This is done at my own expense as I cannot bunker down anywhere and will have to ride it out with my family and my nearest neibours. The power if the grid goes down would not only be for lighting mine and others houses but also to keep freezers working as this is the most convenient way to preserve food and most people nowadays have an abundance of frozen whatever that could keep them going that little bit longer. My hope is that if things go wrong then, when the neibours are in shock and dont know what to do, I can gather them up, share things out and maybe help them work as a community. Only a thought, but I think its a nice one.

11-28-2008, 05:11 PM	#7
feardia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Uisneach, Ireland Posts: 477	Re: A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time. Thats all you can do ammit, and there should be plenty of nuts and berries about around that time of year, i'm fed up with tesco's poison anyway.

11-28-2008, 05:44 PM	#9
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time. Day to Day there's events unfolding, I often wonder how is it possible for us to remain alive in this planet when we are doing everything possible to destroy the very thing that is giving us life. I do believe the Earth itself is protecting us. Despite the irresponsible acts against the ecosystem of this planet the planet is working 24/7 to keep us alive. Our egos are so big as to think ourselves the center of everything. Wether we survive a major catastrophe or not , something needs to change within our concious, I do believe unconciously the planet is forcing us to evolve. Continuing on this self destructive path will eventually extinguish the human race from the face of this planet. Little by little we are finally learning our lesson and several groups have evolved to stop the self destruction of all. Is easy to point the fingers to others and think ourselves free of guilt, is time to take action stand your ground and fight against the very thing destroying our planet, ourselves. Be grateful to this planet for every breath we take, do not take anything for granted be humble enough to accept that there's things beyond our control. May we all evolve to see a future of concious humility and gratitude to the very thing giving all of us life mother earth.