A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time.

[Sol Invictus]

Hi all.

The information is from people whom I trust 100%.

Chile, India, Canada (west coast) are all locations people have fled to, as well as Southern and central Spain.

Also, they are going underground.

Now, I am NOT in the position to leave the UK or even move locations.

However, I am fully planning on having enough food and water supplies to last this period should an event arise.

I am also searching VERY hard for suitable underground locations.

[Sol Invictus]

The food expert Steph said 'food will be extremely short and hardship and starvation is going to be very common. Thats what they want us to calculate'.

The Nuclear tech said 'electrical systems are going to go down on a global scale, the grid will die. Thats whats in the pipe line'.

The telecommunications expert said 'all forms will be off. nothing, not satellites, no GPS, nothing will work. Thats what we are planning for'.

The nurses said 'our people are planning for some thing - we have had massive over stocks and not an eyebrow has been raised'.

make of it what you will, but I for one am deadly serious about being very close to a location in those months to dip off under ground at a fair pace.

[Ammit]

Well, unfortuneately, not many places around here to hide in...

[Sol Invictus]

Ammit, you laugh, but i know people in london who are going underground.

Its possible, just think about it for a minute.

[Myplanet2]

Underground in London isn't something I'd plan on.

A preponderance of predictions to date have a water/flood/coastal event component.

And water finds any available hole.

Underground in low lying areas is asking for trouble, if you ask me (and nobody did)

Oh, and thanks for the heads up, Sol. Every data point goes into the mix to form up likelihoods. It all helps.

[Sol Invictus]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Underground in London isn't something I'd plan on.

A preponderance of predictions to date have a water/flood/coastal event component.

And water finds any available hole.

Underground in low lying areas is asking for trouble, if you ask me (and nobody did)

Feel free to add what you like.

However, if the people who warned me are going underground, so am I. If you choose to sit this one out on the surface should it arise as rapidly as forcast, well... thats your free will and free choice.

[Ammit]

Sol, I was not laughing, just consider anyone who lives close enough to caves at the moment, very lucky. I do have a sense of humour but atlas find these next coming months scary and not funny at all.

Like many many people , I have a family and the thought of dragging not only my wife but my young children also to somewhere that will be unpredictable, this I find very un-ammusing believe me.

Appologies for non offense intended.

[Sol Invictus]

Ammit,
there is nothing at all to apologise about.

I sat in utter stunned silence at the table when they weer banding about ideas on what the hell to do.

I am in no position at all to move or relocate myself. I am however looking at making damn sure that when september rolls around I am as fully prepared as i can be.
Hence the Sunday 'prep' speech for the ground crew.

[Ammit]

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...

[Swanny]

Ammit I feel the same as you
I'm more frightened of what other people will do and what I will do to them if they try to interfere with me or my loved ones.
Hopefully I will just make myself invisable and keep out of their way.

[joe2288]

yes the END GAME is deffinitly near this thankksgiving my whole family was

talkin about the economy and how bad it is i deff heard the depression word

being tossed around a bunch of times i think it is becoming clear to everyone

both us and the ones still asleep something is deff going wrong i plan on

starting to prepare a simple survival book n decent tools could halp ne1 i

suggest other people do the same

good luck

If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[Carol]

Jim Mars said, "Hope for the best and plan for the worst." I think those are wise words to live by.

I've gone through this type of preparing situation before with Y2K and it was a bust.. meaning the infrastructre stayed intact but that was after thousands of hours of other peofessionals working on the situation.

We know without a shawdow of a doubt that this planet is in the process of crossing the galactic plane. Are you aware that there are radio signals in structured patterns coming from its center?

I too wonder and hope for the best. If we didn't have a 12 year old we would do nothing and just enjoy each day as it comes.. but for me personally I'm happiest when working on projects around the house. So planning to go off grid next summer is not something I would look forward to however, I would also enjoy a simplier lifestyle as well. A lifestyle more connected to the earth. So working on puting in an underground structure and an aquaponics system appeals to me at a basic level.

I also enjoy the challenge and the commradary of fellow friends who are also brainstorming on how to set these systems for the easiest cheapest way as possible. We are into simplifying and streamlining life. I have dreams of white dome homes with skylihgts and gardens with huge indoor-outdoor kitchens and libraries. These inner images are something that has been with me for a long time and push me forward to seek their expression in the world around us.

It's fun researching and sharing data and doing it with like-minded people that are here make it even more exciting.

I'm finalizing the aquaponics family system's material's list now and just making lists. Even that gives order and a sense of accomplishment which is also satisfying as is sharing whatever info comes my way with others on self-sustainability.

[alyscat]

I think this is a bit harsh, One. You can stand by the information you have at hand, and the people who moved might have gotten misinformation from their sources. So, you'd have the person who mentioned their behavior (which would be truth for them) leave the forum? I say not.

And calling names is a bit childish, don't you think? And I doubt very much whether either of the two people who posted information here care whether you believe them or not. They're just trying to share information they've been given. Let those with ears to hear, hear.

Personally, I think we probably all share what in good faith we believe to be true - even those who are trying to disseminate what others consider misinformation - and whether it becomes that way in the end or not depends sometimes on additional information way beyond our capability to either know or manipulate.

Carol's example of Y2K is a perfect example. There was a true danger there - our JIT society would have been in a mell of a hess if the computers had been unable to talk to each other. But BECAUSE we had people who were "fear mongers" IT departments went into overdrive, fixing the issue, and the whole Y2K was a non-event.

So, before any one of us tries to insinuate that someone else is trying to "get attention" or "spread fear" or that they should "leave avalon if it doesn't come to be" maybe we should look at the information and say "does it fit for us?"

If it doesn't, then we should just ignore it. If it does, then we have other choices, as Carol has shown. I find this information dovetails nicely with several other pieces of information I have. Does this mean it's true? Maybe, maybe not. How does it affect me? It means I want to go ahead and have my new home finished BEFORE the end of the summer If it doesn't happen, will I blame the original posters, or think less of them? No. They were sharing their truth as they know it.

Honor can be found in trying to provide our friends with knowledge so that they can protect themselves, if they choose.

alys

Originally Posted by SoulSuspect

If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Ammit

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...

This is my problem too. I will share and run out I'm sure but if they kill me for all of it then so be it. We will just have to let go. Afterall which is better?

[Practitioner]

I just saw this thread re-emerge. I'm not sure why it is making a warning, but not intimating much about what it is. Anyone want to take a stab at the following multiple choice question?

This aforementioned monumental event is related to:

A) increased solar activity, increased seismic activity, tsunamis, even a physical pole shift; in other words, global havoc created by natural disasters

B) social pandemonium, starvation and violence due to failed economies

C) a disease pandemic wiping out large numbers especially in densely populated urban areas

D) an organized military attack (e.g., biological or nuclear) with fallout to nearby regions

* * *

I'm thinking A) is a bit unlikely for 2009, and its effects would be global not regional. So that's out.

I think B) is possible, and warning signs are already appearing.

I don't think anyone would orchestrate C) with the intention of it being regional since it would be just too difficult to control/contain. Also, it couldn't be reliably resolved within a matter of months.

D) is also possible, but I'm not sure who would do it. The so-called radical muslims aren't crazy enough to bring on a world war. Aliens? Nah.

Okay, so I'm going to go with B) social pandemonium due to economic failure, with an outside chance at D), allthewhile hoping that it's E) none of the above.

But why would it be important to go underground? ...Is it to avoid high-speed winds or hungry neighbors who are looking for you?

[henners]

Hey practitioner, last time i spoke to Sol Invictus, he said that in August/September what would happen is a precursor of 2012. The PTB would be testing HAARP and its effects on the climate. Massive winds, earthquakes etc. Underground would be the only salvation. He was quite adamant that this was going to happen and for people in those areas to prepare themselves.
Henry

[piers2210]

Sol also mentioned in another thread that there are various viruses now available which may be released, which would allow the PTB to section off the population into regions eg inside/outside the M25 ring around london. It was laughed at by those on the thread at the time, but i since saw something of this sort mentioned in the Jake Simpson interview.

[Patrish]

I read this thread in its entirity and refreshed it as I hoped there would be more concrete information - infact this was my first post!

It looks like a case of wait and see but make some sensible preperation.

Time lines change if enough people put their minds to it, I think I'll go for that senario. I refuse to let the TPTB put me into a situation of fear. We all carry the power to make a difference

much love

Patrish x

[Waterman]

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?

And even though diabolical events happen nearly daily like falling dominoes, it seems like this is the dark before the dawn, the breath before the battle. And it may well be, at least from the view I'm getting.

There is a good possibility according to a leading medical doctor and researcher from Baylor School of Medicine that things actually could become quite intense this fall. I wonder if this was why they headed for the hills. We'll know soon enough, unless ooops another Burisch timeline pops up. Whew, a lot to think about.

Check my blog for the interview with that doctor about the flu this fall.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?

I can't remember his name but he is Hopi and was giving a talk. I have to admit to putting a lot more credence into what the Hopi Elders say then the myriad "seers". "channelers" etc that are currently out there feeding us this dearth of mind-numbing and physically paralysing "info".
Back to the point. He was explaining the changes that must come about and how people will be running for cover, crying out to their gods for salvation etc etc... The point I want to share of what he had to say which really was in tune with how I feel is this. "If your heart is right, if your spirit is right with all that is around you, nothing will harm you. You will have the protection you need. You will be in the right place at the right time even if it is in the middle of a major conflagration. You will have nothing to fear."
Those were not the exact words, but definitely on those lines. I will look for the video and post the link.
The only advice I have is forget the caves, forget the running, yes stock up on water and food - that is common sense - look within and see where you are at in your spirit.
Oh yes, get that book out the library by Ekkard Toll, The New Earth and read that. The best thing you can possibly do right now is to work on your vibrational levels, and check if you are in tune or not. Is your ego master or are you connecting with spirit?
Finally, remember we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers seated in high places (Ego ?). The only way to fight back is to be spiritually connected. Another tip is to stop reading all of this negative stuff and to start being positive. Let the rats run, be aware that you are safe wherever you are. What is the worst that can happen? Nothing, because then you are not liberated from this heavy density existence. Personally, I look forward to "going home" and being free of this decaying form I currently reside in. DO NOT ALLOW FEAR IN !!! That is so important. We are not meant to fear, we are meant to be free entities but we allow manipulation to blind us....that's for a different post.

Cheers

Z

[TheChosen]

It's been so quiet lately. The financial crisis has entered an illusionary recovery, many seem to have fallen asleep again and go on with their daily routines like nothing is going on.

Is it just me or something doesn't feel right AT ALL. I've been getting doomsday scenarios in my dreams and astral like never before and yet here on the physical everything seems fine. It is somehow too quiet... something is wrong and I don't know what it is.

[Waterman]

If you are serious I have found out about three groups in the southwestern part of Colorado that are preparing by building sustainable communities.

One of them has a contact that posts on this forum. If you are interested just let me know.

[Unified Serenity]

Is anyone in N. Florida, Georgia or North Carolina who is involved in sustainable communities? We have been stocking up, and this may be just a precursor to the major stuff coming in the next couple of years, but I definately feel that September is very important, but for different spiritual reasons which I won't go into. I highly resonate that the most important thing is to be focused on attunement to the highest vibrational love you can manage, DO NOT fear, and to wisely have at least 2 to 3 months of food, water preparations, and at least 6 months of medicine you may need.

[burgundia]

The last message of the late pope John Paul II to humanity was : Do not fear....