The Time Has Come...

[SieS]

Thanks for sharing the hope with us.

I have copied your core information on our Dutch free-energy Forum:
www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl

The path is continuing.
be well, we will meet again.

SieS

[symbolon]

There should be more places like this in the world that are open to all and not secret like most groups.

Maybe you could start another place like this one. I am sure this would generate a lot of interest.

I wish you well Flying Pyramid, wherever you may wander.

Peace

[slywinkl]

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

this is how we haf come?! huh?

divide and conquer! just becouse of ego and wanting a ******* buck!

we look for freedom and prosperity only to be shut down by "own" ppl!

how far has you come, you do this, u do that, but dont do that.

here tis all started with a preacher of furure hope and togetherness. where is it?!?!? huh huh huh!!?!??

here the place were to come toghether and start something new! not the same old ways that are failing before your eyes!!

cash cash cash cash! we need this to survive and get on and do better in the world huh!?!? then teklll me how the hell we as HU-Mans haf suvived and build for eons!

and still u shunn away the best ppl just becouse your project is failing becouse u cant "afford" it anymore!!!

u need money, u need cash, u need the blood and sweat of ppl to continue for the ppl! huh?!

and your god damn right im soo ******, if i could take humanity by the neck and slap em silly to look at the reality i would!

here you are preaching to get the truth out. well here is the raw truth, you are following your goverment and money, remove em both and take a look wath a wonderful world this can be!

money makes you blind, money makes u hunger for power!

whats the difference between u and a crack addict?

whats the difference between you and an alcoholich huh?

none! you will always step on another human just to get it in your hands!

you all talk of your spirit. how does your spirit look at you now? dividing your own fellow spirits for a false reality!

if you cant handle this truth , then i suggest u speak to your own inner self and ask if this is right.

is it right to look down on another human for hafing on free thoughts and free way of living its own life? to haf its own way and principals.

!divide and conquer! this is why humanity will always fail the test of life

[FrostyMcunicron]

Well friends that time has come once again where i must move on.
The forum is going subscription which means my time here is done.
I really thought this place was it. There were so many sparks here, more than any other i've seen.

seconded.

[Dusty Nothing]

Haha I loved that Norwegian guys post! (sorry I can't remember the name)

Quite angry but... profound.

Yeah I guess I'll be gone, at least for a while, I'll probably check in from time to time for updates, I for one found that one of the essential aspects of this forum was the ability for everyone to share their own information and expieriences, I hope that moving to a subscription based forum doesn't damage this. Still, I'm greatful for the time spent on this forum, and I think that most can agree that we've all made the realisation that we're not alone in the awakening process, I certainly have.

Goodbye all you people
There's nothing you can say
To make me change my mind
Goodbye.


(Except keep the forum free.... Nah it's cool I understand).

[Carol]

Well Scot you will just have to bit the bullet and stay as your subcription has already been paid for by me.

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by Carol

Well Scot you will just have to bit the bullet and stay as your subcription has already been paid for by me.

That is most generous of you and very trusting. But i have a strong feeling all is not as it seems with richard scott brooks cant put my finger on it just a gut feeling and its very uncomfortable. just my opinion and i hope im wrong because his ideas are very thought provoking, but if something seems too good to be true.................
Sorry if i have offended anyone but this site is open to all sorts (genuine members of humanity and debunkers) and to be honest the only info we have on anyone is what and how they post and our own feelings.

[SieS]

I understand the bandwidth has to be paid and voluntary donations usually don't do it.
Follow the money and U find the source. Each individual is easily traceable by seeing where the payment came from. Therefore payment is not everybody's option.

Seeing what IP a visitor came from is not that easily traceable to an physical address. You often need a court order to acquire this.

The idea could be that the riff-raff (uninteresting remarks) is filtered out if people has to pay for it. Well I believe that as much as the riff-raff disappears, with a paid subscription the quality posters also disappear.

I wish everybody a good transition to an other dimension, I'm sure we will meet again, and than we will all a good laugh over this, over a cold beer.

Love you all,
SieS

[Carol]

LeeBoy.. there are a number of us who have stepped up to the plate to help our our brothers and sisters. This isn't any different than barn raising. One cannot do it by oneself.

BTW, I do everything by Paypal and have never had any problems. For me trust is an internal condition. The same goes for fear. The most liberating experience is to be free from fear.. refuse to be afraid and just watch how life flows. Truly, it is remarkable.

[GregorArturo]

I've talked to Scott (as he likes to be called) personally, and in my honest opinion he is WAY ahead of the game with the majority of those here on Avalon, spiritually, philosophically, and intellectually, including myself. I am positive he will not stay as his principals are his foundation to his existence essentially. As I said myself, my presence here will grow to be limited, until at least a more viable alternative presents itself (working on that one as we speak).

There's a big reason why ideas and technologies like this will not take off right now. People have a very hard time comprehending this. Free will is a big part in the prevailing moments to come with an infinite number of times, but there is a bit of a story line being carried out with a set script, and world wide free energy I feel is not apart of it for some years to come, even though it is out there.

People like Scott and I are very driven by our principals and intuition, and we do not deviate from them. There are several of the types here on Avalon but not many. I am by no means talking down to people, but many MANY people have a real hard time stepping outside the system and critically analyzing it, even when they know they're apart of the system and that it exists.

It's like we are all apart of the Matrix, and we know its existence, but for some reason, many of you aren't choosing to completely step outside of it into the real world, and unplug ourselves from the video game.

Again, you can relate this to the Chinese proverb (I love this quote to death!): To know, and not to do, is not to know.

This does not involve hours of meditation, yoga, or digesting information. It requires a thought, a very powerful thought, an intent to seriously step outside of the ego.

Good luck to you all.

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by Carol

LeeBoy.. there are a number of us who have stepped up to the plate to help our our brothers and sisters. This isn't any different than barn raising. One cannot do it by oneself.

BTW, I do everything by Paypal and have never had any problems. For me trust is an internal condition. The same goes for fear. The most liberating experience is to be free from fear.. refuse to be afraid and just watch how life flows. Truly, it is remarkable.

IF i was in a position to, "step up to the plate", believe me I WOULD. If i win the lottery tonight i will help as many people as i can. I am not slating you for doing what your doing, it IS positivley admirible, i just think we should all tread carefully. As things move forward this forum will be targeted more and more by certain groups and individuals whose only goal is to spread disinfo and panic (which could be very detramental for a certain number of members). Im NOT casting aspersions on flying pyramids character but it just feels like hes shown a very small portion of something VERY tantilising then pulls out. Almost like the con "gain psychic abilities NOW", type trading where you get lots of "testimony" from supposed customers but to find out for sure you must pay money. Given a taster then taken away from you?
Just feels a bit too convenient for me. I deeply regret that i may have offended some of you and that includes flying pyramid. So please accept my appologies.
P.S. i dont get the raising the barn comment, what does that mean?

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by Carol

This isn't any different than barn raising. One cannot do it by oneself.

Carol, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree with you on this one. I've been to several barn raisings (and even helped coordinate some) and this place is nowhere near that, if you'll pardon my french.

I am fascinated with Scott's story, and I hope he doesn't completely disappear. I also think there's much to it, maybe we're not being told the whole story. Can't we get him together with Bill and Kerry and do a video. How about it Scott? (if you're still here...)

leeboy,

A barn raising is where a lot of neighbors get together and build a barn (18th-19th century). It's in wikipedia. It just means a cooperative effort by a group of people - to build something good, needed, useful, or a project that's too big for one person alone etc.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by no caste

leeboy,

A barn raising is where a lot of neighbors get together and build a barn (18th-19th century). It's in wikipedia. It just means a cooperative effort by a group of people - to build something good, needed, useful, or a project that's too big for one person alone etc.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

Thanks for the info no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

Woah woah, where the hell do you pull that statement from lack of civility? It's interesting to note that the majority of the people I associate with are OVER 30, and even 40 because the 'kids' my age have that lack of civility and are grossly immature. Please don't stereotype me like that. I respect my elders tenfold. If I had such a lack of civility for people over thirty do you think I would of moved back out of my house again to get away from my parents instead of confronting the problem head on (being it seems some people got a good laugh out of my parents post)? I respect my parents, and hope they don't go the route like so many do of divorce which is something on the table at the moment.

The only lack of civility I have is toward the ignorant, and I even recognize that and choose to work upon it.

Yes, I have gone out and made some blatant statements lately where people have been taken pretty back by them and just thinking "jeez, that kid has a lot to learn." However, it's mostly out of my patience that can only go so far, and I began to get a bit headstrong on my beliefs.

I am glad you're advocating a free forum but there is a serious principal at hand and people do not seem to be critically thinking about it. They aren't and I am seeing the rise of mob pyschology, cult thinking, which is the same thing I see in my god damn living room with my family and friends glued to CNN. We talk about waking up the masses when people on this forum alone need to wake the hell up.

::deep breath:: Sorry for my rant. It happens. Namaste.

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by SieS

Thanks for sharing the hope with us.

I have copied your core information on our Dutch free-energy Forum:
www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl

The path is continuing.
be well, we will meet again.

SieS

Thank you.
Feel free to post it anywhere you want but please give credit to me.
This is not so i can say "i created it or i own it" because is is just not true.
The doctor put me on to it and someone put him on to it and so on.
Plus other civilizations in the past have re-discovered this tech.
And most of the world would have eventually gotten there anyway.

The credit is so we can keep it free. You see, the world is devious and some company could take that knowledge patent it as say that know one else can make that exact setup. But they can not deny that i released it here and other places first. By now there are so many people that know i spoke up first that the PTB can not let anyone else "claim" it as thiers due to the fact that the world would know they are lieing and it would cause too much uproar at such a critical time.
Besides, they don't want to incure my wrath.
I am what i am.

You must understand that i am simply a tool to be used by the higher self.
They as much as we want this released now! They live here too and too many beings have invested too much into us and earth to let it be destroyed. It's happening because all of us decided it had to be now.

Remember, the key point here is KEEP THE KNOWLEDGE FREE!
Tell everyone who will listen how to make it.
Let every country, every man, woman and child know this simple fact.
Deny no one!

Originally Posted by symbolon

Maybe you could start another place like this one. I am sure this would generate a lot of interest.

I wish you well Flying Pyramid, wherever you may wander.

Peace

Thank you.
As much as it has been talked about and brought to me personally, i just don't agree fully. It is still a version of seperation which i will not adhere to. Perhaps if it is seriously needed, if there needs to be a place like that because others do not exsist, then yes, i will make the family site.
I still hold hope that this forum will go back to being free and B&K find the money they need through other means.

Originally Posted by slywinkl

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

this is how we haf come?! huh?

divide and conquer! just becouse of ego and wanting a ******* buck!

we look for freedom and prosperity only to be shut down by "own" ppl!

how far has you come, you do this, u do that, but dont do that.

here tis all started with a preacher of furure hope and togetherness. where is it?!?!? huh huh huh!!?!??

here the place were to come toghether and start something new! not the same old ways that are failing before your eyes!!

cash cash cash cash! we need this to survive and get on and do better in the world huh!?!? then teklll me how the hell we as HU-Mans haf suvived and build for eons!

and still u shunn away the best ppl just becouse your project is failing becouse u cant "afford" it anymore!!!

u need money, u need cash, u need the blood and sweat of ppl to continue for the ppl! huh?!

and your god damn right im soo ******, if i could take humanity by the neck and slap em silly to look at the reality i would!

here you are preaching to get the truth out. well here is the raw truth, you are following your goverment and money, remove em both and take a look wath a wonderful world this can be!

money makes you blind, money makes u hunger for power!

whats the difference between u and a crack addict?

whats the difference between you and an alcoholich huh?

none! you will always step on another human just to get it in your hands!

you all talk of your spirit. how does your spirit look at you now? dividing your own fellow spirits for a false reality!

if you cant handle this truth , then i suggest u speak to your own inner self and ask if this is right.

is it right to look down on another human for hafing on free thoughts and free way of living its own life? to haf its own way and principals.

!divide and conquer! this is why humanity will always fail the test of life

Whoa! I like your passion but anger in any way is a path to the darkside.
Even love shares a fine line with hatred.
Be mindfull of your emotions, let them teach you understanding and grace.
Anger. frustration, contemptment are all helpful when used to learn oneself. I feel these things too, but i step back and try to understand what about it makes me so angry, then turn it into understanding and just like that anger becomes love.

Peace mate.

Originally Posted by Carol

Well Scot you will just have to bit the bullet and stay as your subcription has already been paid for by me.

Carol, that is extremely compassionate espeacially because you don't know me. As much as it has touched me, i must respectfully decline.
To me, it still is seperation. If others like me are not able to come here, then i too should not be able.
I am strong in my conviction to be one with all, equal. And showing that i am seperate by being places others cannot i am not showing equality.
I am then helping the fields of hate by planting seeds of seperation in people. It may sound extreme but that is what it is.
Thank you for your offer it does warm my heart.

For what it's worth to anyone who's reading, it ties in with somethings the doctor told me that i will never agree with. He said this gift was for me and me alone and that i could not save everyone, espeacially the ones i love.
How can God hand me a way out and expect me to leave everyone else behind. Perhaps i am doomed to stay earthbound for disobeying, but i am human and not an angel, it is my choice and i would choose it a thousand times again and if they are to be damed then damn me as well.
I will never turn my back on my family, EVER!

Originally Posted by leeboy

That is most generous of you and very trusting. But i have a strong feeling all is not as it seems with richard scott brooks cant put my finger on it just a gut feeling and its very uncomfortable. just my opinion and i hope im wrong because his ideas are very thought provoking, but if something seems too good to be true.................
Sorry if i have offended anyone but this site is open to all sorts (genuine members of humanity and debunkers) and to be honest the only info we have on anyone is what and how they post and our own feelings.

Thank you. You are levelheaded to question me.
Question everything, anything anyone tells you.
For this keeps you sharp and aware, however be mindfull of your own disurnment. Always be aware but open at the same time.
Your right, i haven't told the whole story, there are holes in my truths, and i will never tell anyone the whole truth for it would destroy them.
Ignorance IS bliss. Only a vcery few of us walk this earth with the knowledge we posses. It is our burden to bare, we bare it so you don't have to. Those of us that carry this burden we call ourselves "Toy Soldiers". To know the truth of what is to come and know there is nothing we can do to stop it. We are observers of our own fate.
But i believe anyway, that this is what makes us who we are. That this task/test is what mkaes us understand ourselves and all of humanity and why our race, the human race is so important.
And then the burden isn't so bad.
Hold fast for great thing are coming.

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I've talked to Scott (as he likes to be called) personally, and in my honest opinion he is WAY ahead of the game with the majority of those here on Avalon, spiritually, philosophically, and intellectually, including myself. I am positive he will not stay as his principals are his foundation to his existence essentially. As I said myself, my presence here will grow to be limited, until at least a more viable alternative presents itself (working on that one as we speak).

There's a big reason why ideas and technologies like this will not take off right now. People have a very hard time comprehending this. Free will is a big part in the prevailing moments to come with an infinite number of times, but there is a bit of a story line being carried out with a set script, and world wide free energy I feel is not apart of it for some years to come, even though it is out there.

People like Scott and I are very driven by our principals and intuition, and we do not deviate from them. There are several of the types here on Avalon but not many. I am by no means talking down to people, but many MANY people have a real hard time stepping outside the system and critically analyzing it, even when they know they're apart of the system and that it exists.

It's like we are all apart of the Matrix, and we know its existence, but for some reason, many of you aren't choosing to completely step outside of it into the real world, and unplug ourselves from the video game.

Again, you can relate this to the Chinese proverb (I love this quote to death!): To know, and not to do, is not to know.

This does not involve hours of meditation, yoga, or digesting information. It requires a thought, a very powerful thought, an intent to seriously step outside of the ego.

Good luck to you all.

I love you man.
Yes Gregor is right, it will not come out until after 2012 for the very reason that the world will not allow it. People, not the PTB, will simply not accept this new "free" technology. People are still so helplessly dependant on the system that they will fight and kill to protect it.
We will not start a war that will seperate humanity further.
My reason for releasing this now is so that most of the world,believeing it or not, will still posess the knowledge after the events to come.
There is no telling if i or others will be around after the great battle.
So i wanted this out now so that after the great understanding takes place people will then accept info outside the system that is now in place.
Spread the knowledge to all who will listen.

Originally Posted by leeboy

IF i was in a position to, "step up to the plate", believe me I WOULD. If i win the lottery tonight i will help as many people as i can. I am not slating you for doing what your doing, it IS positivley admirible, i just think we should all tread carefully. As things move forward this forum will be targeted more and more by certain groups and individuals whose only goal is to spread disinfo and panic (which could be very detramental for a certain number of members). Im NOT casting aspersions on flying pyramids character but it just feels like hes shown a very small portion of something VERY tantilising then pulls out. Almost like the con "gain psychic abilities NOW", type trading where you get lots of "testimony" from supposed customers but to find out for sure you must pay money. Given a taster then taken away from you?
Just feels a bit too convenient for me. I deeply regret that i may have offended some of you and that includes flying pyramid. So please accept my appologies.
P.S. i dont get the raising the barn comment, what does that mean?

I am not "pulling out" i am staying true to what i was created for.
Once the forum goes subscription i will simply be unable to post here.
The world is very large.
I would love to stay but i will not submit to seperation in anyway shape or form.
I will be posting in lots of places the diagrams specs and i will still make a video and release it on youtube, limewire, just about everywhere that copies can be passed around.

Originally Posted by SuperManny

Carol, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree with you on this one. I've been to several barn raisings (and even helped coordinate some) and this place is nowhere near that, if you'll pardon my french.

I am fascinated with Scott's story, and I hope he doesn't completely disappear. I also think there's much to it, maybe we're not being told the whole story. Can't we get him together with Bill and Kerry and do a video. How about it Scott? (if you're still here...)

Thank you SuperManny but i doubt that will happen.
They are about whistleblower testomonies and sientists and book writers and people that can prove what they say. I am just some crazy homeless guy who knows too much.
Look at it from thier point of view, they are already struggling with money and have interviews that they can't do because of the lack there of.
They would not spend money to come interview me, even if i went to them, i belive they still do not think i hold any relevance to what they are trying to do. I don't take it personally, i totally understand.
I myself think i'm crazy. Reguardless of what i know or how intersting it is how i found out all of this, i just don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by no caste

Gregor,

Such arrogance. Maybe that's why things 'won't take off right now'. And what a broad statement it is. Society is a big, lumbering machine (or system), which has its own momentum. Conversely, things also change in a flash at times...

I get tired of young people's ...lack of civility and sensitivity for energies over 30. It happens at work for me lately - it's sickening.

Note: I'm still advocating for a free forum.

I'm 33 and i get tired of older people faster than i get tired of young people. Older people should understand more, they should carry more wisdom but they don't. They carry nothing but contemptment for those younger than them. They see how they once were and decide to look down on them instead of understanding them and offering guidance.

It's all good. We ARE all in this together and i for one will light up the peacepipe and share sacrament with all who decide to sit at the family table and break bread.


Peace, Love & Light
R.S.B.
Flying Pyramid
Son Of Man

[GregorArturo]

Again to you Scott, namaste.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Your right, i haven't told the whole story, there are holes in my truths, and i will never tell anyone the whole truth for it would destroy them

How exactly would it destroy them ?

Usually if you tell someone a higher truth that is too much for them they simply don't understand it.

A..

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Anchor

How exactly would it destroy them ?

Usually if you tell someone a higher truth that is too much for them they simply don't understand it.

A..

It's simple matrix stucture, once you know there is no unknowing.
Once you see them, they see you and they will destroy you from the inside out. Trust me when i say you do not want this burden.
People are not fit to battle such corruption, we are weak from centuries on programming, your mind just simply would not let go.

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

It's simple matrix stucture, once you know there is no unknowing.
Once you see them, they see you and they will destroy you from the inside out. Trust me when i say you do not want this burden.
People are not fit to battle such corruption, we are weak from centuries on programming, your mind just simply would not let go.

This subscription crisis has me perplexed. Some of the greatest posters here are adamant about leaving once the paypal reared its inevitable head.

This would be unacceptable were it not for the fact that in light of such a simple fact of economics being so misunderstood be the 'enlightened ones' that quite possibly all the goodness was merely a tease. Like the undesired previews on a purchased DVD.

I certainly hope that in your substantial wisdom you can either: a. explain how leaving helps the cause and/or b. see if someone takes the initiative and pays your way because of the merit of your disclosure.

However, from what I'm reading, the offer to spread these opportunities to those deserving members is in itself lacking as it exhibits a false Darwinian selectivity favoring the squeaky wheels thus disqualifying the gesture in favor of the demonstration.

Where is the free will in that?

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Squeptikal

This subscription crisis has me perplexed. Some of the greatest posters here are adamant about leaving once the paypal reared its inevitable head.

This would be unacceptable were it not for the fact that in light of such a simple fact of economics being so misunderstood be the 'enlightened ones' that quite possibly all the goodness was merely a tease. Like the undesired previews on a purchased DVD.

I certainly hope that in your substantial wisdom you can either: a. explain how leaving helps the cause and/or b. see if someone takes the initiative and pays your way because of the merit of your disclosure.

However, from what I'm reading, the offer to spread these opportunities to those deserving members is in itself lacking as it exhibits a false Darwinian selectivity favoring the squeaky wheels thus disqualifying the gesture in favor of the demonstration.

Where is the free will in that?

Squeptikal,
I am assumeing that you read this whole thread and other posts i've made, seeing is how i only have 22, before you asked these questions. Well to aswer a & b for you:

a.) Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances. Remember this is one forum of many.
I will not stay if everyone is not allowed plain and simple.
How it's helping the cause, is it is sending a message to the powers that be and my brothers and sisters that you must stand strong reguardless of the circumstances. I will not adhere to the systems hold on humanity.

b.) I hope you are not stateing that i'm saying this to get a "free ride" from someone here, are you?
Carol has gratiously offered to pay my subscription of her own free will but i have declied for the above reason. I'm not pulling out, i just happened to join a couple of weeks before the forum went subscription thats all.
In case you haven't read my posts i live my life from town to town on the streets and off the grid. it's the principal of the matter. If i had a million dollors i would gladly give it to help Bill & Kerry to help their cause and to keep the forum free for knowledge but that is not the issue.

I have offered a few different things to them both but i have not recieved any reply in any way shape of form. But i don't take it personal, i dont start thinking that the view me as worthless or anything of the sort.
They are busy with their lives and mission.
It is this way of understanding that helps the cause. Do you see?
Understand others point of view, what trials they maybe faceing.

My sole purpose to to help the cause anyway possable.
But i will not go back on my word or my beliefs.

Peace, Love & Light

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances.

I kinda feel the same way.
I have not voiced my opinion about the direction this forum is heading because it seems like a somewhat denser energy that I don't really want to contribute to. And there seems to be no shortage of opinions here.

I'll just touch on it briefly, because I agree with your view that it 'screams separation'. I'm not upset by it in any way, it just seems very divisive. I don't post much (I read a lot) so it won't really even affect me much.

[RANT] What seems so wrong to me is
a.) It seems to me as if they expect this project to fund their other project. This is not a good business model; it fails almost every time.
b.) I'm also a tiny bit bothered by the $60,000 figure that keeps popping up. Sorry, but I don't see it happening.
c.) People have even offered to pay 100% of the cost of this forum so it would be free for others, only to be flatly told that's nowhere near enough.[/RANT]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Remember this is one forum of many.

Indeed! there are several other good ones. May I suggest a couple; DivineCosmos.com and AstroVera.com I would hate to see information not being made publicly available because of.....

But if I don't see you around again, let me say a big THANK YOU for your contribution here. I admit I didn't quite get the the magnetic pyramid concept, but I was most intrigued by your posts.

Even tho I'm American, I was not born and raised in "the system" and in you I recognize a brother who is also not a part of the system. It really gives you a completely different view does it not?

May the Light of Divine Intelligence be with you always...
Namaste

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

Squeptikal,
I am assumeing that you read this whole thread and other posts i've made, seeing is how i only have 22, before you asked these questions. Well to aswer a & b for you:

a.) Again, as far as the cause i am onboard with the entire project, except the subscription method. I wish i could find a way to get them a cosistant source of money so the forum stays free to all reguardless of stature.
Why? Because it screams seperation. It is very simple, if i stay i am agreeing to seperation between my family and i will not do that under any circumstances. Remember this is one forum of many.
I will not stay if everyone is not allowed plain and simple.
How it's helping the cause, is it is sending a message to the powers that be and my brothers and sisters that you must stand strong reguardless of the circumstances. I will not adhere to the systems hold on humanity.

b.) I hope you are not stateing that i'm saying this to get a "free ride" from someone here, are you?
Carol has gratiously offered to pay my subscription of her own free will but i have declied for the above reason. I'm not pulling out, i just happened to join a couple of weeks before the forum went subscription thats all.
In case you haven't read my posts i live my life from town to town on the streets and off the grid. it's the principal of the matter. If i had a million dollors i would gladly give it to help Bill & Kerry to help their cause and to keep the forum free for knowledge but that is not the issue.

I have offered a few different things to them both but i have not recieved any reply in any way shape of form. But i don't take it personal, i dont start thinking that the view me as worthless or anything of the sort.
They are busy with their lives and mission.
It is this way of understanding that helps the cause. Do you see?
Understand others point of view, what trials they maybe faceing.

My sole purpose to to help the cause anyway possable.
But i will not go back on my word or my beliefs.

Peace, Love & Light

Ok, crystal clear. The old saying about death & taxes I used to think was moronic, right after I used the moniker myself. Now I see it as being a tool and nothing else.

I live on the grid, and I'd love to get off of it, but I can't get off right now. I have monsterous bills to pay and a personal love of what I'm building here as a home for me and my dependents.

I live a dual life; one in which I explore the boundaries of existence, and one in which I have to pretend that I'm a good Conservative who is worthy of the trust I need to express in order to do my on-grid business.

I very much appreciate that Bill & Kerry get these folks on tape and in doing so, have become a trusted & valuable resource for many of us. It is maddening to see our sweet little group being torn apart in this way.

I Love You Too, BTW.

Gregor,

Hey, no worries about the rant. I asked for it. But at the same time, there's a kind of language I have a hard time with: ignorant him, ignorant her, stupid this & that.

My point is everyone has their own pace, and you don't know why. I'm not convinced you care. You're not asking anyway. Maybe I'm taking this up with you for a very stupid reason, like hashing out a personal work issue - where a certain rudeness amongst a few 'young' people is getting to me. Normally, I wouldn't say anything like that and have never considered it. But it's coming to mind lately. I hear them on the phone and I want to puke, the way they put down older ('stupid') people.

Maybe 'slow' people are irrelevant, just holding change back, working too... slowly, learning too... slowly. Me, I'm the kind to make sure the slow and the kids are on the boat. It's more important than me. Their pace is right. All paces are right. Furthermore, it's just wrong to 'shut up' any one untold story. So, usually I fall back with them and hang out - it's been great. Human. And where's the direction we're all going anyway?

The ball in play is deception, not the deceived. That's why the forum is great, as is. Share information. A paid forum thing, even at one dollar, is a principle thing for me too. I hate clubs. And the boat's not full. It could be a million dollars for the barrier it represents.

As for Scott here, peace, brother. I'm sticking it out with Nature. It's what I know, what gives me life, made my children, you, All, it's JOY - and I'm going down with this ship - if it does. I can't think of a better ship right now.

Yet, with no undoing, is there another thing to be done, like light up the matrix with compassion, lapis lazuli, quartz, singing, rosemary, salve, anything? Can it be affected. Should it be. Why can't your burden be lightened? Peace.