Investigation into an alien artefact

laurawalker72 · 11-14-2008, 01:39 PM

Hello,
some of you gave some interesting answers*; thank you very much for that. Unfortunately, I am a little demotivated due to the many insults I received and the many empty conversations that are going on. As I said before, I am discovering the world of ufology, your strange aggressive philosophy, and also some topics. This evening, I will study dan burisch’s case and I will answer everybody tomorrow. I will put the pictures of the disk online, if some people are interested, I have some other photos but we’ll see that later on. Here are the pictures: http://s358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/laurawalker72/
Goodnight,
Laura

Harper · 11-14-2008, 02:54 PM

I'm totally lost, were these some of the answers that you received from other fora? Because you haven't received any nasty answers here on Avalon, is there another concurrent discussion happening on Camelot?

Lost here sorry. I suggested ogham because it is an ancient form of celtic hyroglyphic.

Seth Haniel · 11-14-2008, 02:59 PM

Hi Harper
These are mass postings - not individual - and are to be seen on about 30 different forums - so everyone getting tarred with the same brush - or praised whatever the case may be.

Harper · 11-14-2008, 03:08 PM

Thank you Seth, that's a tad facile, I don't know if I'm OK with that at all......

Anywhoddle appreciate your answer.

freespirit · 11-14-2008, 06:31 PM

Laura contsructive criticism is healthy and can aid your research.

Remember ! don't respond to the abuse full stop.
Here is some direction http://nanoimaging.sfu.ca/

THE eXchanger · 11-14-2008, 06:34 PM

i agree,
people throw balls,
they do it,
to see if you have balls !!!

be Ball-see

love
susan
the eXchanger
(who knows, she has some balls)

Bill Ryan · 11-15-2008, 05:54 AM

Hi, Laura:

Thank you for your contribution. Kerry and I want to offer you our encouragement and appreciation. Anchor is right: this is Project Camelot material.

It's a fascinating story that's certainly plausible, and rings true here. Artefacts (yes, the English spelling! In the US it's spelled with an 'i'

) like this do exist. There seem to be several variants of these devices... not just the 'Yellow Book' reported by a number of good researchers over the years.

I'm based in Zurich (flying in there from the US on Sunday morning) and have many friends in Germany, including Thomas Kirschner, the editor of the German edition of NEXUS magazine, who would certainly be interested in reporting and/or helping to investigate this. I'd be delighted to help out if I can. I'll be in Europe for maybe two or three months.

Do please continue to post information on this thread, and also (if you like) contact Kerry or myself privately.

[* side note: we are in touch with Tony Dodd and have a very high regard for his work... ]

Very best wishes, Bill

laurawalker72 · 11-16-2008, 04:55 PM

Hello everybody,
Well, as always I’m overworked. I spent a lot of time checking many things on ufology and I must say that so far, I’m very unsatisfied. Everything I found isn’t clear and doesn’t suit my scientific brain. I won’t have enough time to answer everybody from every forum I’m covering. So, don’t get angry if you don’t yet find your question. I cannot be everywhere at the same time, but I suppose that by tomorrow every question will be covered.
I start with the questions.

* sue

Hi Laura! Welcome to our message forums Alien
Which University are you associated with?
Your project sounds quite exciting!

Hi thank you indeed for your welcome. We are a team of scientists and we work with many different universities, in England, Germany, Italy, Belgium, but you have to understand that since we have discovered the world of ufology, we started to be a little less open and we are starting to be careful. I will not give the references of the universities because my colleagues asked me not to do so. Later on when we see that some places, like some forums seem to be more serious, then, we can give you whatever you want as references. We gave pictures, we can give more. We can also show the language used by this strange disk. As long as it is to learn, to be open, to help and not to insult, we are 100% open.
Thank you very much indeed. Please excuse us for being shy, but we react with what we have lately discovered on the internet.
All the best.
Laura.

* chargerguy

So that I might be able to help you in your endevours could you please clarify what you need everyone to help you with. Are you looking for anyone who might have heard or come into contact with elements of this case?

Yes, that’s exactly what we are looking for. As far as we know from what Melanie wrote, the team who has this disk discovered many incredible things and put down on the internet at least some of their discoveries, may be some of you have heard something. Of course, if some of you know where this team is, that would be perfect. If, at least, we get any kind of information that might help to find them or understand their story better or what exactly this disk was, that’d be great.
Thank you very much.
Laura.

* MariaG

Hello
This question was posed before, however, which University are you associated with?

I understand this question, and we’ll answer this question later on. Know that it’s not only universities. Sorry if I have to stay discrete right now but my colleagues asked to do so.
Laura.

* robin

OK you guys, no need to get nasty.
Laura if you indeed are doing a legitimate study I encourage you to private message Ian or Sue directly and sort out whether or not your project is something that PSICAN should be involved with.
Guys, Laura has not tried to sell us anything nor is she harassing anyone. You have the option of just ignoring her posts.
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Hi, your intervention is very wise and clever. Some of you can’t understand that my way of working now is to try and contact as many people as I can, that’s why some of my answers aren’t very private. Still, I’ll give special attention to what you said because you seem much more interesting than anything I have seen until now, but there are few serious people who answered too, but you are only few. Maybe instead of trying to touch many people I should concentrate on people of quality. It could be maybe much more efficient?

* Jacques Vallée

I am just wondering if whoever is behind laura72 is simply doing an experiment in cognitive psychology. The texts posted are full of inconsistencies, and this is the way people in cognitive psychology test hypothesis about counterintuitive elements, memory, what element sticks, etc.

Among the inconsistencies are the second sentence "I’m an expert in communication diploma of PhD Socio-Linguistics ..." which is meaningless. An English person with a Ph.D would not write that bad, would have neatly arranged paragraphes, and actually would have a D.Phil not a Ph.D. Several sentences sound as if they were written by someone from Eastern Europe (and none of the listed nationalities are from that part of the world. The theme of the Internet being such a great place is continuously repeated while the alien stuff minimized. Etc.

If this is a university-based research from North America, then they would require an ethics certificate, as he/she/they used deception without harm. This usually entails the obligation of divulging who they are, the purpose, etc, at the end of the experiment. Uncovering the deception is usually considered as causing the end of an experiment and he/she/they should divulge who they are, purpose, etc right away.

If he/she/they do not do that in the next few days, then Sue should block the laura72 URL.
I cannot believe the high estime you have of yourself. YOU ARE SO GOOD. You never saw the possibility that whatever you imagine about your brain, maybe it’s not the truth. Just a touch of humour that, I’m sure, you’ll be able to translate into psychological message from my subconscious,

Possiamo anche parlare in Italiano, mais nous pouvons aussi parler en Français, oder auch auf deutsch um euren geist ein bisschen zu öffnen, oder mire schreiwen op letzebuergesch, of misschien in nederlands, aval anahnou medaberim ivrit, etc so, please stop trying to have knowledge that you don’t have. Maybe it’s just too difficult for you to say «*sorry, I don’t have the knowledge you are looking for*». it’s true that to be humble is very difficult especially for a low brain level. Sorry for you. I’m tired of these stupid conversations about nothing. Can we please go back to the real topic, the disk, thank you. The rest is of no value to me.
Laura.

* MariaG

I couldn't agree with you more, Jacques!!

The first thing that came to mind was "some sort of experiment".

I've also done some internet research and what she is doing on this forum is an exact replica of what she is doing on other forums, however, now she is also copying and pasting PSICAN's responses and she quotes Ian on other forums.

Its all very bizarre but as I've said before we live in interesting times, don't we?
There’s nothing complicated indeed. I’m trying to contact as many people as possible so that finally I meet someone who knows something about the disk. That’s all. I’m not a spy from the KGB. I just concentrate my answers everywhere at the same time because I have to be efficient and save some time.
Laura.

* sue

Jacques Vallée wrote:
I am just wondering if whoever is behind laura72 is simply doing an experiment in cognitive psychology.
If he/she/they do not do that in the next few days, then Sue should block the laura72 URL.

Sue answer:

One of our members suggested something similar to us privately as far as the purpose of these posts. Heather and I have both been waiting to see how this develops as I wanted to see how it might evolve.
Laura72 -> Can you please identify your name, and the University you are associated with?
If you are unwilling to do that then this little experiment will have to end as far as our forums are concerned.

Very strange, but you are “at home”. You’ll do whatever pleases you, but as for me, I’m just trying to get some answers about this disk. I didn’t think that it was something awkward to use the internet for that. If you belonged to the world of universities, you would understand that I’m not going to have problems where I teach just to relax people to whom I was just asking “does anyone know something about the disk Melanie wrote about in her will? Can someone help us find something that was powerful enough to freeze cancer for years?” it doesn’t seem so strange to me, I really don’t understand your reactions. I really need some explanations. If you tell me what makes you so scared, then, maybe I can change some aspects of my work with you but right now, I really don’t understand your reactions, I’m sorry. Please tell me what makes you so scared?
Thank you.
Laura.

* Jason

My suspicions are bordering on belief. I'd be surprised if we get a legitimate response, I've seen this kind of thing so many times before on the internet, it has all the signs.
Sorry if I sounded nasty.
For now though, Sue is correct, give her the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain herself. However, several posts from other members on this thread have asked for details from her, and the subsequent posts from Laura72 ignored them. ~temporarily bottling anger up until further notice~

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** Anonymous Coward
We are already in possession of technology far beyond that which is currently available to the general public. It is supressed to maintain the status quo of repression of the masses for the benefit of the few.
People who try bring these technologies into the mainstream are either threatened into solence, wind up dead, or are bought off.
Please tell us why you think your case will be any different.

I don’t understand you, you are complicated. I’m not interested in empty thoughts, just try to help me find anybody who could guide us a little bit to know more, that’s all. Is it possible that such a tool as the internet is finally a completely empty tool thanks to the manipulations of the government? Then we really have to wonder, because our society is really in a ****** position.
Laura.

** Restart
Mankind already has all the knowledge
when it comes to heal cancer
(ask why Pharma, Corp + politicians desire to hide that
and why certain physics are being supressed)

and

how to get free energy
(ask why they desire to hide that, but its not hard to guess)

and

also knows for a fact about the 'alien' presence.
Linked to ancient secrets mankind call religions.
(ask why they desire to hide that,
and has deliberately twisted mankinds history)

This 'science team' *smile* should know that too.

If anyone do know about what you describe,
I hope they do NOT tell you or anyone here.
It would be known that mankinds leaders are too ego.

Second, whats to say a MAN could handle the energies,
or have the right frequency as a Controller ; )

'Science teams' linked to this
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
are far to eager to keep mankind in the Dark.

As for the info you dropped,
its not THAT hard to find out who you where if it was for real -
you dropped info about your special diploma,
and that it is an international science team,
with the countries involved too...

I do not understand why you drop soo much details
IF you would be concerned for your safety
and / or others of the team.
Seriously now.... get a grip.

…
Interesting info spilled from random forumparticipants?
Hmm... there is far more heavey objects online
who has their own websites, who has whistleblown -
why not contact them instead, should be far more rewarding.

And if you are interested in language - ancient symbols
and hieroglyphs:
[link to www.viewzone.com]

THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT
[link to www.disclosureproject.com]

David Wilcock has interesting info..
Check out the video on 2012 Enigma on Youtube,
heres his site:
[link to www.divinecosmos.com]

** Anonymous Coward
Nice story op, but without proof or evidence it's just that "a nice story".

I don’t know what happened to everybody to be so crazy and aggressive? I just feel sorry for you. Now as a team of scientists, we aren’t usually working on this kink of topics, so we know nothing about energies, knowledge about cures and so on, and I must say that since we’ve seen what we have seen on the internet, finally we feel very happy not to be concerned by these strange files, indeed. We are just trying to finish our research on the internet concerning this disk. Is there anyone who can help us without being completely crazy, but just efficient and well balanced. Thank you.
Laura.

** Dancer
All right, have you looked into the original "Wingmakers" materials?
There seems to be some possible linguistic crossover, at least in potential, which may mean that there are other points of connection. It is hard to tell without pictures for comparison however, but you may have a possible lead.
I believe a simple web search should turn up this data.
Take care friend.
D.

That’s a very kind answer, unfortunately we checked the windmakers website and there’s nothing interesting for us. Still thank you very much for the information.
Laura.

** Anonymous Coward
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8320 : Nice story op, but without proof or evidence it's just that "a nice story".

yes, you REALLY must bring some link or picture (or both!) etc. to validade your claims.
without that your MANY words will be useless and this thread will die much sooner than you expect.
believe me!

This is incredible how deeply you developed power and threatening on the internet. I can tell you that before I found the world of universities too much in the control of the ego but since I know the internet, I find this world of universities, a world full of harmony and gentleness.
Laura.
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**Dantheman62:

It sounds kinda strange, I mean why would he give it to her and not say, bury it or give it to a good longtime friend or family member.Maybe he was part of some organization or even ET type being. Does he have any background you can research? I don't know but there are alot of questions.

Some aspects of what this man did stay a mystery to me, still I can answer a point. He didn’t give this disk to one of his friends because he wanted to give it to someone who had almost no relation with him. With Melanie, it was the case, because they just met during their holiday.
For the rest, no, we don’t have any element otherwise I wouldn’t be writing to everybody like this. As I said before, trying this on the internet, we have followed every other system. Every time we arrive nowhere.
If you can help…
Laura.

**Malletzky:

Could you tell us which army attacked this man and killed his son? I assume, according to your previous posts, that this all must have happened in Germany.
So if "die Bundeswehr" should do this, it would realy surprise me.
Yeah, I know that the "dark forces" are everywhere, so I will not claim it is not posible. But Bundeswehr? Or maybe some "secret" parts of it?

And when exactly did this all happened? Few years ago?? Can you give us an aproximate Year?

Do you have any links to any german newspapers which might have covered this? Would be interresting to read about....

As far as we know it was about 4 or 5 years ago, and no, it wasn’t in Germany but it was in Europe. Now, don’t believe that when some “forces” are doing some regrettable actions it’s written in the newspaper. As I said we tried all of that before and it leads nowhere, that’s why we are trying something new through the internet.
Laura.

**Pamela:

Laura, you should post these questions on the Open Minds Forum, they have many members that have studied various texts, crop circles and other artifacts.

You might get some valuable information from the members there.
Thank you very much I will!! Cheers. Laura.

**Exchanger:

why don't you email
support@projectcamelot.org
and, then Bill & Kerry,
will contact you direct

i agree, your story, would be much easier to follow
if you provided a location/and, date=to=date occurance
type of reporting
(oldest/to newest info)

interesting-never-the-less, and, looking forward
to hearing more, about this
thank you, I’ll have a look at that, and I’ll let you know. Laura.

welcome to project avalon

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

**feardia:

If the artifact was found in ireland can u tell us which part? Ireland was the only part of the known world not conquered by the Roman empire, there are many links back to the middle East and Sumeria and stories of ancient boat trips to the meditterranean, it would only take two weeks to sail from Ireland to the med, whereas to travel overland would have taken months. The 'pilgrim's route' which goes over the Dingle peninsula to brandon creek is taken as the route which pilgrim's took from Ireland to northern spain and on to the Holy land, however there is an opinion that the route was in the other direction from Europe to ireland.

Legend has it that this is the route by which the Holy Grail was brought to ireland and there is currently major work going on at Tara (the ancient capital) under cover of the building of an unnecessary motorway through what is a UNESCO world heritage site- Opus Dei and spanish company Ferrovial are involved in this work, which is continuing despite the opposition of 90% of the people- EU contract law apparently.

The templars also came to ireland when they finished the crusades, and of course Atlantis was just off the coast. Anyway, I shall follow your story with interest,
one love

"Ancient Ireland knew it all," George Bernard Shaw.

Thank you, what you wrote is very interesting. I only know that it was in the south of Ireland. Melanie wrote some words about Kilarnay park but I don’t know if we can trust that.
Laura.

Seth Haniel · 11-16-2008, 05:13 PM

there is a Killarney Park at Killarney, Co Kerry, Ireland (notice 'e' instead of 'a' and double 'l' in spelling)

What is the weight of the disc - I have a feeling that it is lighter than it looks - do you have a photo of the discs base ??

It has a familiar look to it ??? !!!

Antaletriangle · 11-16-2008, 07:33 PM

Hi Laura,Thanks for the tenacity;have you any shots of the underside of the disc-i'm curious of the underneath,suppose i'm stilll a child at heart,looking under stones to find creepy crawlies and so forth;this kinda curiosity gets me into trouble!!lol.

Argyll · 11-17-2008, 01:42 AM

what a load of tosh!!.....if anyone buy's into this you are a fool!

Bill Ryan · 11-17-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argyll

what a load of tosh!!.....if anyone buy's into this you are a fool!

Dear Argyll, Zelong:

Kerry and I agree that this artefact may be very important, and we want to find out more and help if we can. [Laura, please get in touch either here or privately. We're looking forward to hearing from you.]

Both of you, please do this for me: go to http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html and spend two or three weekends viewing the 100+ hours of video interviews which we make available for free. You may learn things you never dreamed about.

These kinds of artefacts are very real, and we're heard about them from several different sources. We have the resources and reliable contacts to do a comprehensive field investigation and would be delighted to do so.

Very best wishes, Bill

Zelong · 11-17-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Dear Argyll, Zelong:

Kerry and I agree that this artefact may be very important, and we want to find out more and help if we can. [Laura, please get in touch either here or privately. We're looking forward to hearing from you.]

Both of you, please do this for me: go to http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html and spend two or three weekends viewing the 100+ hours of video interviews which we make available for free. You may learn things you never dreamed about.

These kinds of artefacts are very real, and we're heard about them from several different sources. We have the resources and reliable contacts to do a comprehensive field investigation and would be delighted to do so.

Very best wishes, Bill

G'day Bill and Kerry.

I listen to your video/audio interviews most nights(bed time )
I will stand back and wait to see the under side of this artefact.
I'm very interested also.

Best Regards
Zelong.

laurawalker72 · 11-17-2008, 07:38 PM

**Giaoue:

Hello, very interesting story & when I was reading the part of this disk being like a hard disk with info within in it I knew I had a heard of a similar story about these disks discovered in the 1930's in the mountains of Tibet called the Dropa Stones. Here is a link for more info about those particular disks that date back about 12,000 years ago --- www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html I know you stated the origin of your disk was in Ireland but just like the pyramids, which have been discovered in every content including Ireland, then maybe disks are also ancient artifacts that could be connected with every ancient civilization as well. Just check out the site or maybe you've researched that, too. I love to hear different experiences that are very unusual but extremely significant to our own dysfunctional civilization. Love SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever)

Hello,
That’s indeed very interesting. At last, I have something that is helping with our research. I didn’t yet check the link, first, I’m answering you and two other people. Information I have can go with what you explained, even if it’s not yet completely clear. First, about the artefact, the disk, it was found in Ireland, but as far as we know from Melanie, this disk had been put there, but was somewhere else before. The disk was supposed to be 50000 years old, while it had been in Irealand for a more or less long time. Maybe centuries or one or two thousand years, I don’t know exactly. Now we had some unclear information about the language used on this disk to deliver information, but what you said now is indeed very interesting, because the man who used to come to Melanie’s house explained that the language was written in a sort of Runic alphabet, but it was spoken like a language from Tibet. Maybe, there’s a link that could help me to approach the origin. I’ll analyse the link you gave with the greatest interest and I’ll let you know if there’s anything that I could use there. If you are interested, I can give you a picture of the language we have. Maybe some people could help us get some explanations about this strange writing. Let me know if you are interested in seeing that.
Thank you veeeeeeeeeryyyyyyyyyyyy much anyway for your help.
All the best.
Laura.

**Dan22

I suggest that if you are very upset by insults, just ignore them and focus on the positive questions or comments you receive regarding your story. Life is too short to be upset by unintelligent people who only attack for whatever reason or agenda they may have. If you let them upset you then they control you.
Secondly, the best way to be safe from attacks similar to the one you describe by the “army” is to get your information out to as many people as possible. Perhaps publish some of the pictures of, and text from, the disk if you have them.
Regards

Very wise my friend and this is what we have decided about the insults. We just ignore them. In fact you can see that now, to answer I just take positive answers, I just ignore the rest. About the danger, first, we weren’t attacked by the army, this man was. We never had any problems ourselves, but we are just careful. Anyway, you are right, we think that if this story is completely true, it doesn’t belong to us but to mankind and afterwards, unless someone wants to attack the complete humanity, we’ll feel safer. That’s why we do our best to spread the story. Now, on the other hand, this is not our story and we try to make sure that we aren’t spreading stupidities. We know the side effect of this disk, but what was it exactly? Where does it come from? Who was this man? Why did he disappear? And even stranger for me, why does nobody remember that story while I know for sure that it was largely spread on the internet? Is it possible that some authorities managed to deny this story? All this is so strange for us. One of my friends told me something very interesting about “the prieuré de Sion”. This group was very well known in many different countries. Then in France they decided to deny this story. The leaders explained that it was an invention. very quickly, many different websites started to repeat the same story. After a short while, if you wanted to be a serious website, you had to be aware about this so called scam. A few months later, any website that was talking of the “prieuré de Sion” was just ridiculous. In less than a year, the “prieuré de Sion” disappeared completely from the French internet. Today, you’ll find the story of the same scam written everywhere. Finally, they could deny a historical fact and rub it off the internet all over the world. Is it possible that this story was rubbed out the same way? Why don’t we get any answers from someone who knows the story? They don’t have to believe it, they just have to know it.
Anyway, thank you very much for your very nice post.
All the best.
Laura.

**whitecrow:

Laura, I want to encourage you in your investigations.

My own chief frustration regarding the "ET question" is lack of artifacts or proof. I happen to think they exist, but I can also think of alternate explanations for everything from UFOs to crop circles, so I'm keeping my mind open wide.

I also thought of the Dropa stones. These I have actually seen photos of, although they are a mystery, and I know they do exist. I also thought of the Wingmakers material, about which I wrote a fairly lengthy commentary on another forum. Supposedly artifacts exist from this site, although what I saw at the website was very disappointing, and the artwork there looks like modern pigments were used. So, who knows.

I hope someone has this artifact (or artefact) and you can track it down. If it has been filched away into government clutches, it is no doubt lost to us forever as they try to adapt it to military use. I hope to learn more about this as you discover new data.

If I could make one small request...large pages of unbroken small type are very difficult for me, at least, to read. If you could break your words into smaller blocks it would be a lot easier to read.

Yes, I know I’m lazy about my writings and presentation, but you know in my job I write so much… I’ll do my best to improve.

I
AM
Sorry!!!!!!

See, my presentation is improving. I’ll check which kind of pictures we have in our files, and I’ll put them online as I did for the disk itself. Maybe that will help some of you give us more data, and anyway, I really think that the more proof is shown and the less we are in danger. I’ll let you know when I have done it.
All the best.
Laura.

**Harper :

Laura, have you considered Ogham as a possible language?

About Ogham….. I printed this alphabet and I did some research with the text I have myself. I didn’t find any special link, still some letters could have the same origin, but, it’s not obvious. Anyway, thanks a lot because at least for my personal knowledge it was very interesting.
All the best.
Laura.

**seekntruth:

Laura,

I would also like to encourage you to continue your research. There is an enormous amount of fear lurking just under the surface of many people's fascination with UFOlogy. They want positive change to occur on the planet, but they are uncertain of the real consequences of such change. And so they should be! We should proceed with caution.

I know you must do what you know is best for your research, and I'm sure you'll narrow the field of potential blogs until you find the best group of people who can openly share their honest ideas with you. I certainly hope that Project Avalon becomes one of your best sources of information.

Thank you for sharing your story so far, and I look forward to learning more.

Thank you indeed, it’s good to feel that we can meet some interesting people who can share in a clever way. It’s good also for my psychology because during a little while I was about to give up. I’m starting to see through my research that the situation on our planet is not clear at all. Too many people, leaders, know things but control everything. As a scientist, I can tell you that our planet is really much more ill than what is said everywhere. I know that it could look utopian to believe that some knowledge from aliens could help our civilisation, for me, what I see as completely utopian, is to believe that our planet will survive without a complete change in the way of thinking and living of your complete civilisation.
Thank you for your being open and your honesty.
All the best
Laura

Average Joe · 11-18-2008, 02:03 AM

I suspect Laura Walker is not English.

I'll explain later.

THE eXchanger · 11-18-2008, 04:03 AM

i see something,
to the disk,
that is normally common only to crystal pieces -
from the photographs

so, i am looking forward to hearing more
about this disque/or disk

i am curious, also, to see its "bottom side"
and, to know the weight, and, dimensions of the piece

cheers/susan
the eXchanger

mach66 · 11-18-2008, 05:20 AM

Laura,
I am very intrigued and yet perplexed. I have read the whole thread now and have to say I have a mixed bag of emotions. You come across as both a good person truly after information and as suspicious. Please don't take the suspicious comment as negative, it is only a perception. In this regard, you would have to expect the negative comments you have received. Plust everyone on Project Camelot and Avalon, well not everyone, but a lot of peple, are either egocentric, or just plain paranoid. You have done a great job of figuring out how to deal with these types of personalities = ignore them. I congratulate you.

You seem oddly placed in this world to me. You are obviously German and a scientist or researcher. For someone with a scientific background, you have an extremely spiritual nature. That might be bery possible in Germany, here in America, highly unlikely. the thing that puzzles me the most and the thing I find to be your most likeable attribute, is your naivete. For a scientist/researcher, you seem so pure in your heart and like me, you expect the rest of humanity to be the same way. What puzzles me is your reaction to the many rude people on the internet and the fact that there are so many rude people on this planet. I figured that was common worldly knowledge?

I think it is very cute/attractive that you seem bewildered by the many mean people.. I guess I envy you. It makes me jealous to think that there is actually a place on this Earth where someone can grow and reach an age of at least their 30's and "not" realize there are so many messed up (mean) people out there. That's pretty sad isn't it? It jsut goes to show how we have been locked up in a spiritual jail and the keys were thrown away a few thousand years ago. Our spirits have been left to rot in prison, while our egos have been allowed to run a muck and become totally out of control and "controlled".

I would say continue your search, stay true to your goals, watch out for manipulation, be most careful of who you meet and never ever lose your sense of empathy for the rest of us. My suggestion at this point would be to allow your postings to do their job. You have posted where you need to. Those rivers need to run their courses. Have you considered using a few different psychics? If you have actual photos or other material which has been associated with anyone in this case, a psychihc of the right type could pick up on things, visions, people, places etc.. and possibly lead you down a different river a bit faster than an internet search full of haters, and people trying to use you for their own goals.

Meeting with Bill and Kerry might be your best bet right now if you plan continuing your stay here at Camelot. However, be careful with anyone you meet. They do seem to be the real McCoy though..

Peace and love to your spirit,
Mach66

ocan · 11-18-2008, 06:59 AM

I, too, first thought of the dropa stones when you described your story.

~I suspect that this might also function as some sort of base. It is part of a larger entity or something is used along with this base.
Do you know of or have heard of any other objects that were used along with the base? Placed on it? Or maybe were somehow levitated above it, such as an orb?

~The link given above to http://www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html speaks about "Chi Pu Tei, a professor of archaeology at Beijing University" that studied the dropa stones.
If the information is not false I suggest your team try to contact someone who knew the professor or worked with him and see if they can help you out, if the story is real.
~From the link above: "In 1965, Professor Chi Pu Tei and four of his colleagues were finally given permission to reveal their theory. They published it under the title 'The Grooved Script concerning Space-ships which, as recorded on the Discs, landed on Earth 12,000 years ago'."
I suggest you find the publication, if it exists. And maybe try to contact family or people who knew the professors colleageus.
~Also on this site http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dropas2.html they speak of another "Professor Tsum Um Nui of the Academy of Prehistoric Research in Beijing.

~Another good option that others have also suggested is that you contact Bill & Kerry they have many contacts in the UFO community and may be able to lead you in the right direction.

Average Joe · 11-18-2008, 11:33 AM

As Mach66 said, you are obviously German.

I didn't say at the time because it was late, and I was too tired to explain, but that is why I said I said I suspected you were not English.

Now kicking off your whole presence off here with "Hi my name is Laura Walker and I'm English" which if you are German, would be a blatant lie, that would call into question everything from your second sentence.

Zelong · 11-17-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by laurawalker72

Hello,
some of you gave some interesting answers*; thank you very much for that. Unfortunately, I am a little demotivated due to the many insults I received and the many empty conversations that are going on. As I said before, I am discovering the world of ufology, your strange aggressive philosophy, and also some topics. This evening, I will study dan burisch’s case and I will answer everybody tomorrow. I will put the pictures of the disk online, if some people are interested, I have some other photos but we’ll see that later on. Here are the pictures: http://s358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/laurawalker72/
Goodnight,
Laura

Hi Laura,do I get a prize if I guess this pic right?

It's a Pottery Wheel base where you slap the Clay.
You didn't need 30forums just Project Camelot Forum.

Zelong.

MaskMarvl · 11-26-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelong

Hi Laura,do I get a prize if I guess this pic right?

It's a Pottery Wheel base where you slap the Clay.
You didn't need 30forums just Project Camelot Forum.

I think Zelong may have something here...

Google "banding wheels" or check out this link: http://images.google.com/images?&um=...tart=0&ndsp=20

Pretty damn similar... don't you think?

laurawalker72 · 11-29-2008, 09:10 PM

Hello everyone,

Here is a long sum up of many mails I had with Arecibo an ex-member of the team who found the disk. It’s very long because we had a lot of exchanges and what this poor fellow says is really terrible. I know some of you here are going to say that I’m too pure, still… this guy gave me a chapter that he wrote in a book that was written by Charly, the one who led the operation, the one that Melanie knew.
Now I know his name, if it is his real one. As this chapter is very important but quite long, I’ll post it here as a next post. In this chapter, the only one he wrote in this book, he explains how he could extract information from the disk and what happened before and after this. In spite of also speaking of having been in jail where he was sent for 9 months, it’s still very extraordinary compared to what he says afterwards. Arecibo told me that nothing really exists. As I couldn’t make it out, he said that the governments of all countries can do what they want. They can delete an identity, they can create whatever they want. When I wanted to know more, he explained that as the army that had attacked them couldn’t obviously speak about the disk, they created crimes they “had committed”, so that like this, the army was correct to attack dangerous people. Once it’s recorded in the computers, it’s over, you can’t help it. They can create or delete information as they please. It’s a part of the problem that no one can face according to him, because they play beyond the rules. He told me that on the websites where I go, no one will accept this information, we’ll see… good people are trying to solve a problem but they don’t know that the others, as he said, can change the problem whenever they want, like changing the architecture of a maze, so that you never find the way out. He explained that another part of the maze is our own psychology. What we have in our heads has been implanted by “aliens”, so that we never find the way out. Arecibo explained that we can never make a bridge between what we discover outside and what is in our heads. He said that it’s quite special for him to say that, because he left the disk-team because he couldn’t accept this discovery to “enter his psychology”.

For years he hid alone seeing by himself what he didn’t want to see with this disk, ie, people’s psychology is a mess. This guy is very negative today, saying that our world goes towards its end, more exactly not the world but the population, and that there’s nothing we can do about it. He said that he is not hiding that he lives in Holland, because anyway he wants to commit suicide. He doesn’t want to hide anymore and be guilty of things and monstrosities he never committed. He declared that he has lost contact with the rest of the team for years. They were in Germany before and moved to Bulgaria as far as he knows, but he is not sure. He insisted very much on the power of the media who can destroy anything they touch. They can change everything as they wish as we have obviously seen with “the Roswell case” and so many other cases that I have been learning on many different websites myself. I asked him why he was so lonely. Why he didn’t have friends like him who are looking for the same secrets and he explained that even the people who want to know the truth still believe in authorities. At the same time they are going to say that “the Roswell case” is obvious and they are going to believe the government if they say that this is not true or that Arecibo is guilty of a crime. I personally believed this guy because he is completely down and didn’t ask for anything. He just wants to die, I think it’s obvious. It’s because he wants to pass away that he wanted to testify one last time before that.

He spoke a little bit about the origins of our civilisation and of our fate and he said that everything was there. He kept repeating “I know the truth, the face of the monster that is holding our fate. I know the face of Satan and I’m not talking of a mystical entity, but an alien program to control our planet”. He was saying “it’s 666, which is a number of man, the beast is a human creation, the computer”. I know that when I take sentences like that, it could look very mystical but this guy isn’t mystical; otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to talk to him. He spoke with me a lot of two other things. The first one was a crop circle with a face of an alien and a disk with a binary computer language with threats. He said that the orbs were in the inside disks that were able to fight the system controlled and developed by aliens. He explained that they didn’t find a disk but an orb, that changed into a disk, and changed again into an orb afterwards. He explained that what they found in Ireland was very linked to Stonehenge and to crop circles. He spoke also of a case in Germany where three plates were found on a crop circle site (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxY98buBw2o), which were more or less like the disk they found in Ireland, even if the german government denies to have taken away these plates. Talking with him of crop circles, I asked him what was the link with Andreas Müller from the crop circles website, and he answered “none, unless it was when they moved away from Germany, this man is a liar because he never had any contact with them, well, as far as I know”. I asked how he could be sure that they didn’t talk with him after their departure, and he answered “because they left Germany because they were disgusted to take risks to speak with people who didn’t believe them but just insulted them, so I don’t know why they would have started to speak with someone again, maybe it was like this and they spoke, but I would be very surprised”. I have to add myself that when I asked more information to this man to know how he could be sure that it was a fake, he didn’t add anything. The lord has spoken, conversation over. Well I inquired a little bit about this man, I didn’t find a lot only that obviously for this guy, crop circles is a means to make money, which takes away the free objectivity of this guy… sorry… lord.

Unfortunately I cannot get in touch with Charly through Arecibo. Where are you Charly? What do you hide exactly? I asked Arecibo if he knew anything about the curing abilities of the disk, he said that he had no idea about this. I know, this whole story looks too much like SF, but I don’t know, it stinks and I’m not talking of Arecibo’s witnessing, I’m talking about the complete story and the movements around this story. Too many people seemed to be involved. Too many shields have been built to hide … what… nothing… really it’s not clear. I hope that some of you who read me can help a little bit through all this because I’m quite lost. I leave you now with Arecibo’s report but bear in mind that this chapter was written many years ago so on some aspects it’s out of date, of course.
Please, I really need some help even if I improved a lot on ufology stuff I need some help from people who could “read between the lines”.
Greetings.
Laura.
PS Arecibo insisted on finding the team because he said that anyway, today, everything should be done to save the planet even if he believed that nothing can be done anymore. Yes, I know he is a bit paradoxical.

Arecibo’s report

You will see that this disc is very strange... I have a number of diplomas and certificates in the science of matter and in computer engineering. At the moment, I am working on a research project, and before that, I worked in a European Space Centre.
But enough of me, let’s return to the ebony box that Ben, the archaeologist, had chosen first.

Ben had been attracted to this box that glowed as if it had been covered in varnish. He had estimated the box to be about 1500 years old. Had we been able to stay longer at this site, we would surely have been able to make other discoveries, but the circumstances did not allow this.
We had to leave the site very urgently and took the box that the archaeologist had started to analyse with us. As soon as we were at our house, we continued to analyse the box that was 70cm long, 37cm high and 31 cm wide. It had no hinges, you could feel no bumps when sliding your hand over it and after a long moment, we finally managed to un-stick 2 blocks. The first block had the same length, 70cm, a height of 18cm, and the same width, 31cm. The other block was 19cm high, 70cm long and 31 cm wide.
Once the box was open, we discovered, to our greatest surprise, a ball of light that floated out of the box and started hovering above it. I think that nobody can imagine what joy mixed with anguish you can feel, asking yourself whether you will discover the worst or the best. This lightball, which, from afar, I measured to be 34cm, floated freely in the air without radiation, without apparent pollution and without heat.

This means that the lightball was bigger than the box that had contained it. I had to come to the conclusion that the lightball contained something. As a matter of fact, the lightball had a diameter of 34cm and the disk later revealed itself to have a diameter of 21cm (so no problem, it fits into the box). With my scientific way of thinking, I had understood straight away that this lightball had to contain something solid that was smaller than the lightball, something, which fitted into the box.

Fascinated for a long time by the intensity of the light this ball emitted, I was taken by a panic when I realised that I had forgotten to close the shutters and that the neighbours had to see this light and realise that something strange was going on in our house. So we quickly went outside to close the shutters, which happened to be on the outside of the house because the double-glazed windows had been badly installed. We then realised something amazing, although it was completely dark outside, it was during the night, you could not perceive this light from the outside, it did not shine through the windows. Stranger still, the windows remained completely black. I even thought that the light had gone out, but when I returned inside to check, I found the lightball still glowing (The light it emitted was extremely intense and even hurt the eyes). I thought it had to have been an illusion but after a few tests - I read an entire newspaper under this light and there was no other source of light in that room - I realised that it had to be true. Or can you read an entire newspaper in your illusion? I even double-checked what I had read in another room under a normal light. The result was the same.

Some time later, another night, Charly was alone in the house; driven by his curiosity and his impatience, he touched the lightball and to tried to understand, using his psychic abilities, what it could be. When he touched it, the lightball immediately stopped glowing and a hard disk fell to the floor. Nobody could have thought that this light could hide a hard disk.
When we discovered the disk, and although most of us were experienced scientists, a feeling of well-being suddenly inhabited us and the room we were in. The desire to touch the disk became so great that all the security measures we had taken at the beginning of this expedition were forgotten.

The disk, which was incredibly pleasant to touch, had a diameter of 21cm and it was 1,618 cm thick. Yes, you recognised it: 1,618 is the golden number. I still do not understand how the disk came to be exactly 1,618 cm thick. It is almost impossible to reach such a precision. All the other measures were round figures, only this one had something behind the comma.

I really could not explain how such a precise and important number could emerge. The disk was paved with concentric circles of a respective diameter of 5, 8 and 13 cm. You will note that these 3 numbers are part of the Fibonacci sequence (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13)
Finally, I noted that the last cm of the diameter was indented which formed a sort of triangle when you look at this indention from the side of the disk. The luminous sphere, which had a diameter of 34cm shows the number 34, which is the number that comes after the number 21. These observations were absolutely breath-taking for me; the disk, in all its proportions, perfectly respected the golden number.

This was in no way the case for the ebony box though, let me remind you, had the following measures: 37cm high, 70cm long and 31cm wide. The height was divided in one part of 18cm and one part of 19cm. The wood was 2cm thick and the inner part was prolonged by 2cm so that the box could close hermetically.
The archaeologist confirmed that the box and the ligthball/hard disk had two different origins. For the archaeologist, the material of the box, i.e. the ebony wood spoke for itself, for me it was the mathematical language and the fact that the golden number had been used and respected so perfectly in the making of the disk that showed me that the two things did not come from the same source. The ebony box respected in no way the golden number, the proportions had nothing to do with a mathematical sequence, although this golden number could have easily been used for the box too. This brought me to the conclusion that the person who had made the box still ignored the existence of the golden number. Or maybe, but this is less probable, he had had no contact with the disk but only with the lightball.

Let us return to the disk now: I remember that touching the disk plunged me into a serenity that scared me, contrary to all the other members of the team, like Charly, for example, who was completely fascinated by this object. A fascination that developed into a quest for the truth.
The following few lines are very important in understanding the function of the disk that I was to discover much later. I was put in charge of determining the physical characteristics of the disc. As I was heading a section in a research laboratory at a European Space Centre, I undertook and carried out the research in secret:

The disk is of unknown origin and has the particularity of emitting signals on a large spectrum. After having assembled and prepared the necessary material to analyse and tape the emitted signals, once I wanted to tape the signals, everything stopped. The computer bugged and froze and it was impossible to switch it back on. The failure of the experience was total. On top of this, I quickly realised that the disk no longer emitted any signals. After a few hours of anger and disappointment, I finally managed to relaunch the hard drive of my computer, and to my great surprise, I discovered an enormous file. It was a completely insignificant file, whose title I will not reveal for the moment. It was written in our language and with our alphabet. This file contained 1000 photos showing incomprehensible signs. The disk having stopped emitting signals I continued my experiments. I found out that the indented part functioned as an antenna for the entire disk. I only managed to retrieve a tiny part of the message it contained in comparison with its surface. Even bombarding the disk with shock or laser beams did not damage nor reactivate the disk. I thus stopped my research and Charly started with the translations.

The disc, as simple as it may be in its form, had really disconcerted me by its function. I remained passionate about and fascinated by the download of the data without ever really understanding how it had gotten onto my computer. As I was immersed in the technical aspects of the disc, I was much less interested in its translation. When we started retrieving information on ego and personality, the information was so mind-blowing that it was hard for me to accept it.
When the army attacked us, I was put in prison and remained under the watch of a merciless army. I plunged much deeper into mysticism and prayer because it was the only thing I had left in jail. I also discovered that I could not have done otherwise, with the drugs and all the rest they did to me, but to tell them what I knew. When they realised that I knew nothing of the translations, nor where the disc was hidden, they released me after nine months of custody, thinking that my death would have been detrimental to their cause.

In fact, due to their reaction, I realised the importance of the teachings the disc contained. I realised that I was very much delayed and that this delay was responsible for the troubles between Charly and myself at the present moment.

After more than eight years of inactivity, the disc has transformed itself into a lightball again for no apparent reason. I received the witnessing by mail from the person who looks after the disc and whom I only know by mail. This person told me that every time Charly goes to see the lightball, it doubles its volume, but Charly seems not to realise this. Yet every time he comes back from seeing the lightball, he is more and more different. He resolves problems he never resolved before and he is more and more different. With my scientific mind and my spiritual delay, I perceived these changes as very strange and very worrying. This plunged me into very regrettable negative attitudes. I finally had a long conversation with Charly and discovered that he was perfectly aware of the changes of the light’s radiance, but that he did not want to speak about it out of humility, and also to avoid troubles. He explained to me that because he had perfectly adapted his brain to the ET’s way of thinking, they were doing a sort of „download“ on him regularly, every time he went to see the lightball.
He did not want to speak about this because it would have sounded too elitist, which goes against his principles.

Why did he decide to speak to me about this and give me the authorisation to speak about this here? Because it is now that he can transmit this information to other people, once they have adapted their mind to the ETs way of thinking thanks to Fao and the elimination of the cerebral viruses given by the dragons. This helped him a lot. He regularly returns to see the lightball with a lot of joy and enthusiasm, because he knows that he works for himself and for all the others too. As for me, who was the one who initiated the download of the data, I am desperate to see that I am not capable of integrating the information now because I have not yet managed to accept the „clarification program“ in my mind, the anti-virus or anti-bug program given via Fao. Nothing is lost, I must still have some time to catch up with the work, because I can feel that right now, something fabulous is happening.

Small note by me, Laura,

Finally I found out that the name of the file was in French, but the rest of the retrieved document was in an alien language that they called fao.

Arecibo also told me that Melanie had contacted him via email when the disc started to glow again. He was the contact person.

laurawalker72 · 11-29-2008, 09:32 PM

Anonymous

“A team of 5 experts discovered in Ireland an old celtic site old of many thousands years. It has stayed untouched for one thousand five hundreds years. On this site the team, an archeologist, a computer expert, an expert of old languages, an architect and a biologist discover a black chest made in ebony wood.
This box is obviously not celtic.

After days of studies to open this chest without damaging anything, they discover at last what is inside. To their utmost surprise, they see a ball of light which is floating in the middle of the chest.
After days of work on this lightball to understand what it could be, the linguist guy pushed by impatience and inattention touches this famous ball.
He feels no pain, but the ball will stop at once its radiance, leaving a kind of very small flying saucer.
This one seems to be a very highly sophisticated hard disc. Its origin is obviously extraterrestrial. Months of studies will be needed to be able to produce something from this extraterrestrial technology.
At last the computer expert will produce a kind of text printed directly as pictures from this hard disc.
These texts are written mainly in Runes mixed with points and other signs. Those other signs and drawings were completely unknown. Years will be needed by the whole team to be able to translate these strange extraterrestrial texts.

Its contents is really fabulous and even more incredible is the fact that the texts were stocked in this hard disc until the precise second where it was touched by the language expert. The knowledge brought in these texts is so revolutionary for humanity that it means a complete change in our way to understand our past but mainly to deal with our very near future.
Once more years will be needed for the team to integrate such extraterrestrial ideas. The results of such a way will be a complete liberation of the psychology and even little by little an integration of psychic powers. The teaching of the disc invites mankind to step into the consciousness needed to belong to the cosmic brotherhood, among the other races who know and see each other so often. This today should be humanity’s place and we must learn to get it. All the explanations about a huge cosmic war were also given in the texts. The cultural and psychological knowledge given through these means are no contest, b!
ut the biggest event of our civili

A team of people more or less close to the team of scientists have decided to witness what they learnt through the team of scientists. The changes brought by these teachings are incredibly powerful and if you start this so astonishing experience, your life will be completely different in the future. It’s not here a simple cultural experience but a real revolution in your life. You’ll have to be strong and open-minded to digest these fabulous explanations. All this is powerful enough to change completely the destiny of mankind. We try through this posting to gather a maximum of people. Most of the population is afraid of such a discovery and we know it’s very hard to find enough people to exchange about such a subject.

That's the reason why we contact you directly by mail
: we could gather the whole team of witnesses on one forum which is in fact not a real forum because there is only one thread. Our thread-forum will be only one split into two, one in German and the same one in English. That is why we invite here everybody who could be interested to gather on the same following
address: [link to thelightball.funpic.de] .By honesty and also because our goal is not to deal with a forum, ours, is and will stay only one thread. Our little forum is very new and we hope that some of you will be able to join this new experience which will produce a new thread on your own forum with a new circle of witnesses through our forum, because we wish to spread the knowledge from this astonishing event for the best of the world.
We are doing our best to contact as many people as possible and as many forums as we can to gather the witnesses and the experience hoping that this will produce a new wave of information all over the world.
The light ball gave also information about a kind of vessel called Merkabah (not exactly what is known in the Kabbalah) more used as a lighthouse to indicate to our cosmic brothers that we finally stepped into cosmic consciousness

Each witness had a very different experience with the experts’ team. Some know some of them and only a little and some others know very well the whole team and even the hard disc itself, but everyone has a direct experience with this story. We believe that the diversity of the witnesses will bring more objectivity and interest for this so important subject which cannot be treated like any other subject. We hope to meet you in this so incredible discussion which will create a new spreading of the knowledge all over the world.”

The organisers, one part of the witnesses.
[link to thelightball.funpic.de] this site has been canceled

Answer:

That was very interesting and I thank Anonymous for giving that to everybody. I’m deeply impressed that you found that, I suppose in your computer. What an organisation!

I’ve been talking a long time to Arecibo about this, I mean, through a lot of different emails. Here are his explanations. It’s quite interesting. He explained that this was a message he sent to millions of people under the form of a spam message, because it was the only possibility for him to contact so many people in a short time. I remember that someone somewhere on a forum said that he was surprised to never have heard about this story, well, that’s at least a proof that this story was largely spread. It’s interesting to see that on the web, a lot of things come and go but finally we remember very little of it. I asked what was the feedback of this spam, and he explained that thousands of people answered and went onto the forum, but no one wanted to understand, more exactly, only one. After this system one Austrian, called psi entered the team. That’s why, after this task, the team decided to hide completely and to avoid wasting any more time on spreading the information.

It looks strange, but I think that the internet has destroyed the possibility of communication rather than the opposite. From my own experience, with what I have done on the web, I’m very disappointed. I received so many insults and while I started with over 60 forums, I have only 5 forums left. I have been banned from the others, and I even don’t know why. Now that I am in contact with Arecibo, I hope that I’ll be able to go further into this story. Still, he doesn’t know where the team is, so, it’s not so sure. Anyway I’ve been using the web to contact someone who knows something, and it worked. I could behave like many people and disappear now but it’s not my style. I want to carry on sharing information and maybe be helped by you as well.

I have been talking to Arecibo about another aspect that I found strange. We are a team of experts from different universities, and the team who found the disk was also a team of experts. I found that very strange. Arecibo explained that the disk is choosing his interlocutors. The disk wants to meet people who form a team and it’s logical for the “philosophy of the disk”. I asked how a disk could have a “philosophy” and Arecibo explained that if we want to consider the disk as an extremely high and sophisticated computer we could understand that it can have its own conception of communication. I said that even if it could be possible the disk cannot influence us before meeting us. Arecibo said that the disk was also a very sophisticated mobile and could influence before we decide anything. That’s an aspect that doesn’t suit me, because I love to feel free in my movements. I’m planning to fly to Holland to meet Arecibo. Since we are in contact I find that Arecibo is much better because through me, he can act to help in finding this disk and his life is of some use right now. He said that he was doing his best to find Charly and his team but until now, he hasn’t succeeded.

I’ll let you know if I have more information, if I start finding some info about Charly’s team and if I will fly to Holland or not.
On your side, if you have any info, please let me know and if you have any questions for Arecibo, please you can write them here, I’ll transmit them to Arecibo who will answer.
I hope that this story will touch some of you and will give you some energy to do more research about the secret behind UFOs.
All the best, to all of you.
Laura.

eaglespirit · 11-30-2008, 01:32 AM

Hi Laura,

Just read this thread today and sent You a private email!

What You are doing here and at 'Comet 2012' IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!

Please, please keep in touch with this story and keep the momentum going!

NOW is the time!

You WILL find the right People to make this all come to Light and help Us catapult forward as a Race of Spiritual Beings that are re-discovering and re-awakening to what We really are and what We are really capable of...
"Changing Everything to TRUTH from a Propagated Lie, Now!"

With Honor and Respect,
Thank You,
eaglespirit

Chris1617 · 11-30-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laurawalker72

Anonymous

“A team of 5 experts discovered in Ireland an old celtic site old of many thousands years. It has stayed untouched for one thousand five hundreds years. On this site the team, an archeologist, a computer expert, an expert of old languages, an architect and a biologist discover a black chest made in ebony wood.
This box is obviously not celtic.

After days of studies to open this chest without damaging anything, they discover at last what is inside. To their utmost surprise, they see a ball of light which is floating in the middle of the chest.
After days of work on this lightball to understand what it could be, the linguist guy pushed by impatience and inattention touches this famous ball.
He feels no pain, but the ball will stop at once its radiance, leaving a kind of very small flying saucer.
This one seems to be a very highly sophisticated hard disc. Its origin is obviously extraterrestrial. Months of studies will be needed to be able to produce something from this extraterrestrial technology.
At last the computer expert will produce a kind of text printed directly as pictures from this hard disc.
These texts are written mainly in Runes mixed with points and other signs. Those other signs and drawings were completely unknown. Years will be needed by the whole team to be able to translate these strange extraterrestrial texts.

Its contents is really fabulous and even more incredible is the fact that the texts were stocked in this hard disc until the precise second where it was touched by the language expert. The knowledge brought in these texts is so revolutionary for humanity that it means a complete change in our way to understand our past but mainly to deal with our very near future.
Once more years will be needed for the team to integrate such extraterrestrial ideas. The results of such a way will be a complete liberation of the psychology and even little by little an integration of psychic powers. The teaching of the disc invites mankind to step into the consciousness needed to belong to the cosmic brotherhood, among the other races who know and see each other so often. This today should be humanity’s place and we must learn to get it. All the explanations about a huge cosmic war were also given in the texts. The cultural and psychological knowledge given through these means are no contest, b!
ut the biggest event of our civili

A team of people more or less close to the team of scientists have decided to witness what they learnt through the team of scientists. The changes brought by these teachings are incredibly powerful and if you start this so astonishing experience, your life will be completely different in the future. It’s not here a simple cultural experience but a real revolution in your life. You’ll have to be strong and open-minded to digest these fabulous explanations. All this is powerful enough to change completely the destiny of mankind. We try through this posting to gather a maximum of people. Most of the population is afraid of such a discovery and we know it’s very hard to find enough people to exchange about such a subject.

That's the reason why we contact you directly by mail
: we could gather the whole team of witnesses on one forum which is in fact not a real forum because there is only one thread. Our thread-forum will be only one split into two, one in German and the same one in English. That is why we invite here everybody who could be interested to gather on the same following
address: [link to thelightball.funpic.de] .By honesty and also because our goal is not to deal with a forum, ours, is and will stay only one thread. Our little forum is very new and we hope that some of you will be able to join this new experience which will produce a new thread on your own forum with a new circle of witnesses through our forum, because we wish to spread the knowledge from this astonishing event for the best of the world.
We are doing our best to contact as many people as possible and as many forums as we can to gather the witnesses and the experience hoping that this will produce a new wave of information all over the world.
The light ball gave also information about a kind of vessel called Merkabah (not exactly what is known in the Kabbalah) more used as a lighthouse to indicate to our cosmic brothers that we finally stepped into cosmic consciousness

Each witness had a very different experience with the experts’ team. Some know some of them and only a little and some others know very well the whole team and even the hard disc itself, but everyone has a direct experience with this story. We believe that the diversity of the witnesses will bring more objectivity and interest for this so important subject which cannot be treated like any other subject. We hope to meet you in this so incredible discussion which will create a new spreading of the knowledge all over the world.”

The organisers, one part of the witnesses.
[link to thelightball.funpic.de] this site has been canceled

Answer:

That was very interesting and I thank Anonymous for giving that to everybody. I’m deeply impressed that you found that, I suppose in your computer. What an organisation!

I’ve been talking a long time to Arecibo about this, I mean, through a lot of different emails. Here are his explanations. It’s quite interesting. He explained that this was a message he sent to millions of people under the form of a spam message, because it was the only possibility for him to contact so many people in a short time. I remember that someone somewhere on a forum said that he was surprised to never have heard about this story, well, that’s at least a proof that this story was largely spread. It’s interesting to see that on the web, a lot of things come and go but finally we remember very little of it. I asked what was the feedback of this spam, and he explained that thousands of people answered and went onto the forum, but no one wanted to understand, more exactly, only one. After this system one Austrian, called psi entered the team. That’s why, after this task, the team decided to hide completely and to avoid wasting any more time on spreading the information.

It looks strange, but I think that the internet has destroyed the possibility of communication rather than the opposite. From my own experience, with what I have done on the web, I’m very disappointed. I received so many insults and while I started with over 60 forums, I have only 5 forums left. I have been banned from the others, and I even don’t know why. Now that I am in contact with Arecibo, I hope that I’ll be able to go further into this story. Still, he doesn’t know where the team is, so, it’s not so sure. Anyway I’ve been using the web to contact someone who knows something, and it worked. I could behave like many people and disappear now but it’s not my style. I want to carry on sharing information and maybe be helped by you as well.

I have been talking to Arecibo about another aspect that I found strange. We are a team of experts from different universities, and the team who found the disk was also a team of experts. I found that very strange. Arecibo explained that the disk is choosing his interlocutors. The disk wants to meet people who form a team and it’s logical for the “philosophy of the disk”. I asked how a disk could have a “philosophy” and Arecibo explained that if we want to consider the disk as an extremely high and sophisticated computer we could understand that it can have its own conception of communication. I said that even if it could be possible the disk cannot influence us before meeting us. Arecibo said that the disk was also a very sophisticated mobile and could influence before we decide anything. That’s an aspect that doesn’t suit me, because I love to feel free in my movements. I’m planning to fly to Holland to meet Arecibo. Since we are in contact I find that Arecibo is much better because through me, he can act to help in finding this disk and his life is of some use right now. He said that he was doing his best to find Charly and his team but until now, he hasn’t succeeded.

I’ll let you know if I have more information, if I start finding some info about Charly’s team and if I will fly to Holland or not.
On your side, if you have any info, please let me know and if you have any questions for Arecibo, please you can write them here, I’ll transmit them to Arecibo who will answer.
I hope that this story will touch some of you and will give you some energy to do more research about the secret behind UFOs.
All the best, to all of you.
Laura.

Ｈｉ　Ｌａｕｒａ，

I presume some of your team already know some of what I am about to post. First though, thank you for posting all the recent information you have, and especially the sample of "alien" writing/text.

The text is very fascinating. Please understand my findings are not exactly academic in this case but more speculative in nature, especially because there is not enough text from which to work out definitively much at all. That said, however, this is what I find:

The sample of writing presented shows approximately 44 consonants assuming the modifiers, of which there are approximately 13, are vowels. This highly assumptive and speculative conclusion is based on the fact that no less than 26 of these 44 consonants bear some relation to ancient Etruscan and/or Greek and these signs were consonants in those languages.

Your alien text is not, however, either of those ancient languages. The next highest frequency of occurrence of these characters is not Runes, of which there are approximately 7 similarities, but, and you're going to love this, a very ancient and unknown form of language that was found in an Egyptian tomb by Billy Meier and his alien friend Asket who led them inside the tomb past the guards while they were cloaked with invisibility. Asket took Billy to a corner and showed him some burnt old papyri. Picking up one she told him he might be interested in it. Billy looked and remarked that he couldn't read any of it. Asket then took a pencil from Billy and and transcribed the meanings of the strange alphabet into the German alphabet. Remarkably the characters roughly translated letter for letter, which is most unusual as most of our ancient languages are syllabic in nature, rather than alphabets that can be transcribed into each other.

Billy still has that burnt fragment of text and the whole passage has now been translated into English (originally German). It concerns Billy and who he is and his work, prophesied ages ago in an ancient Egypt. What will interest you is that this language has as many as 19 characters that somewhat correspond to those in the text you provided.

This Asket Egyptian text, then has the second highest correlation of characters next to ancient Etruscan/Greek.

The Plejaren, Ptaah, who is a friend of Asket's is very interested in ancient Greek and is known to have books on the subject and studies it. Why exactly we don't know.

The Plejaren, who are the ETs interacting with Billy Meier have said that our ancient languages all have some connection to their and other ET languages that initially hailed from the Vega and Syrian systems; and they also have input "intuitions" into peoples minds to assist in the creation of some of our languages, but much of the characters have just remained and been handed down, sometimes in compromised form.

I have the books that contain reproductions of the seared scroll and transcriptions, and know the name of the man who helped transcribe these into German and English. It took someone who knows a number of ancient languages and European languages.

I suggest you try to contact him and see if he can help you. If you send me an email I will reply giving you his name. I believe he is in Europe, and he is European. I don't want to put his name on an open forum like this just in case "someone" might want to get to him first making it difficult for you, shall we say. Of course, people who really want to can probably access our emails anyway, but why make it any easier for them?

Approximate language content similarities of laura's alien text:

Ancient Etruscan/Greek............ 26 characters
Asket's ancient Egyptian scroll...19 "
Linear A and B .........................8 "
Runes.....................................7 "
Albanian..................................3 "
Celt Iberian...............................2 "

Another speculative guess of mine is that the downward pointing arrow in the text represents either a sentence ending (a period in English) or a question or exclamation mark. The curved variation being another one of these three.

One fascinating feature and difference of your alien text from all of the above languages is that none of the above have modifiers, the super script characters/signs above, below, and beside the characters that your text has.

I would speculate that the alien culture bearing this language might have interacted with our earth culture somewhere around the time of a very ancient Egypt (I could not speculate on when, as it could be even up to tens of thousands of years ago) and the time of the Etruscans and very early Greeks. Somewhere in that time frame would be my initial guess based purely on what you have shown to date.

BTW you should go back and check out the wingmakers again. The passages in the Neruda Interviews 3 and 4 covering quantum and sub quantum physics and the energy field beneath them may be useful as you continue your investigation into this energy object. There's not a lot of scientific detail there but I think you will find it very interesting in terms of your investigation. If you wish, and if I have time, I could post the appropriate sections here for you.

Chris

11-14-2008, 01:39 PM	#1
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hello, some of you gave some interesting answers*; thank you very much for that. Unfortunately, I am a little demotivated due to the many insults I received and the many empty conversations that are going on. As I said before, I am discovering the world of ufology, your strange aggressive philosophy, and also some topics. This evening, I will study dan burisch’s case and I will answer everybody tomorrow. I will put the pictures of the disk online, if some people are interested, I have some other photos but we’ll see that later on. Here are the pictures: http://s358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/laurawalker72/ Goodnight, Laura

11-14-2008, 02:54 PM	#2
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact I'm totally lost, were these some of the answers that you received from other fora? Because you haven't received any nasty answers here on Avalon, is there another concurrent discussion happening on Camelot? Lost here sorry. I suggested ogham because it is an ancient form of celtic hyroglyphic.

11-14-2008, 02:59 PM	#3
Seth Haniel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hartlepool England But Moving Shortly to Fauldhouse Scotland Posts: 172	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hi Harper These are mass postings - not individual - and are to be seen on about 30 different forums - so everyone getting tarred with the same brush - or praised whatever the case may be.

11-14-2008, 03:08 PM	#4
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Thank you Seth, that's a tad facile, I don't know if I'm OK with that at all...... Anywhoddle appreciate your answer.

11-14-2008, 06:31 PM	#5
freespirit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: leeds, uk Posts: 57	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Laura contsructive criticism is healthy and can aid your research. Remember ! don't respond to the abuse full stop. Here is some direction http://nanoimaging.sfu.ca/

11-14-2008, 06:34 PM	#6
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact i agree, people throw balls, they do it, to see if you have balls !!! be Ball-see love susan the eXchanger (who knows, she has some balls)

11-15-2008, 05:54 AM	#7
Bill Ryan Project Avalon Co Founder Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 353	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hi, Laura: Thank you for your contribution. Kerry and I want to offer you our encouragement and appreciation. Anchor is right: this is Project Camelot material. It's a fascinating story that's certainly plausible, and rings true here. Artefacts (yes, the English spelling! In the US it's spelled with an 'i' ) like this do exist. There seem to be several variants of these devices... not just the 'Yellow Book' reported by a number of good researchers over the years. I'm based in Zurich (flying in there from the US on Sunday morning) and have many friends in Germany, including Thomas Kirschner, the editor of the German edition of NEXUS magazine, who would certainly be interested in reporting and/or helping to investigate this. I'd be delighted to help out if I can. I'll be in Europe for maybe two or three months. Do please continue to post information on this thread, and also (if you like) contact Kerry or myself privately. [* side note: we are in touch with Tony Dodd and have a very high regard for his work... ] Very best wishes, Bill Last edited by Bill Ryan; 11-15-2008 at 08:03 AM. Reason: adding to this post, having read the contents of the thread further.

11-16-2008, 04:55 PM	#8
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hello everybody, Well, as always I’m overworked. I spent a lot of time checking many things on ufology and I must say that so far, I’m very unsatisfied. Everything I found isn’t clear and doesn’t suit my scientific brain. I won’t have enough time to answer everybody from every forum I’m covering. So, don’t get angry if you don’t yet find your question. I cannot be everywhere at the same time, but I suppose that by tomorrow every question will be covered. I start with the questions. * sue Hi Laura! Welcome to our message forums Alien Which University are you associated with? Your project sounds quite exciting! Hi thank you indeed for your welcome. We are a team of scientists and we work with many different universities, in England, Germany, Italy, Belgium, but you have to understand that since we have discovered the world of ufology, we started to be a little less open and we are starting to be careful. I will not give the references of the universities because my colleagues asked me not to do so. Later on when we see that some places, like some forums seem to be more serious, then, we can give you whatever you want as references. We gave pictures, we can give more. We can also show the language used by this strange disk. As long as it is to learn, to be open, to help and not to insult, we are 100% open. Thank you very much indeed. Please excuse us for being shy, but we react with what we have lately discovered on the internet. All the best. Laura. * chargerguy So that I might be able to help you in your endevours could you please clarify what you need everyone to help you with. Are you looking for anyone who might have heard or come into contact with elements of this case? Yes, that’s exactly what we are looking for. As far as we know from what Melanie wrote, the team who has this disk discovered many incredible things and put down on the internet at least some of their discoveries, may be some of you have heard something. Of course, if some of you know where this team is, that would be perfect. If, at least, we get any kind of information that might help to find them or understand their story better or what exactly this disk was, that’d be great. Thank you very much. Laura. * MariaG Hello This question was posed before, however, which University are you associated with? I understand this question, and we’ll answer this question later on. Know that it’s not only universities. Sorry if I have to stay discrete right now but my colleagues asked to do so. Laura. * robin OK you guys, no need to get nasty. Laura if you indeed are doing a legitimate study I encourage you to private message Ian or Sue directly and sort out whether or not your project is something that PSICAN should be involved with. Guys, Laura has not tried to sell us anything nor is she harassing anyone. You have the option of just ignoring her posts. View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Hi, your intervention is very wise and clever. Some of you can’t understand that my way of working now is to try and contact as many people as I can, that’s why some of my answers aren’t very private. Still, I’ll give special attention to what you said because you seem much more interesting than anything I have seen until now, but there are few serious people who answered too, but you are only few. Maybe instead of trying to touch many people I should concentrate on people of quality. It could be maybe much more efficient? * Jacques Vallée I am just wondering if whoever is behind laura72 is simply doing an experiment in cognitive psychology. The texts posted are full of inconsistencies, and this is the way people in cognitive psychology test hypothesis about counterintuitive elements, memory, what element sticks, etc. Among the inconsistencies are the second sentence "I’m an expert in communication diploma of PhD Socio-Linguistics ..." which is meaningless. An English person with a Ph.D would not write that bad, would have neatly arranged paragraphes, and actually would have a D.Phil not a Ph.D. Several sentences sound as if they were written by someone from Eastern Europe (and none of the listed nationalities are from that part of the world. The theme of the Internet being such a great place is continuously repeated while the alien stuff minimized. Etc. If this is a university-based research from North America, then they would require an ethics certificate, as he/she/they used deception without harm. This usually entails the obligation of divulging who they are, the purpose, etc, at the end of the experiment. Uncovering the deception is usually considered as causing the end of an experiment and he/she/they should divulge who they are, purpose, etc right away. If he/she/they do not do that in the next few days, then Sue should block the laura72 URL. I cannot believe the high estime you have of yourself. YOU ARE SO GOOD. You never saw the possibility that whatever you imagine about your brain, maybe it’s not the truth. Just a touch of humour that, I’m sure, you’ll be able to translate into psychological message from my subconscious, Possiamo anche parlare in Italiano, mais nous pouvons aussi parler en Français, oder auch auf deutsch um euren geist ein bisschen zu öffnen, oder mire schreiwen op letzebuergesch, of misschien in nederlands, aval anahnou medaberim ivrit, etc so, please stop trying to have knowledge that you don’t have. Maybe it’s just too difficult for you to say «sorry, I don’t have the knowledge you are looking for». it’s true that to be humble is very difficult especially for a low brain level. Sorry for you. I’m tired of these stupid conversations about nothing. Can we please go back to the real topic, the disk, thank you. The rest is of no value to me. Laura. * MariaG I couldn't agree with you more, Jacques!! The first thing that came to mind was "some sort of experiment". I've also done some internet research and what she is doing on this forum is an exact replica of what she is doing on other forums, however, now she is also copying and pasting PSICAN's responses and she quotes Ian on other forums. Its all very bizarre but as I've said before we live in interesting times, don't we? There’s nothing complicated indeed. I’m trying to contact as many people as possible so that finally I meet someone who knows something about the disk. That’s all. I’m not a spy from the KGB. I just concentrate my answers everywhere at the same time because I have to be efficient and save some time. Laura. * sue Jacques Vallée wrote: I am just wondering if whoever is behind laura72 is simply doing an experiment in cognitive psychology. If he/she/they do not do that in the next few days, then Sue should block the laura72 URL. Sue answer: One of our members suggested something similar to us privately as far as the purpose of these posts. Heather and I have both been waiting to see how this develops as I wanted to see how it might evolve. Laura72 -> Can you please identify your name, and the University you are associated with? If you are unwilling to do that then this little experiment will have to end as far as our forums are concerned. Very strange, but you are “at home”. You’ll do whatever pleases you, but as for me, I’m just trying to get some answers about this disk. I didn’t think that it was something awkward to use the internet for that. If you belonged to the world of universities, you would understand that I’m not going to have problems where I teach just to relax people to whom I was just asking “does anyone know something about the disk Melanie wrote about in her will? Can someone help us find something that was powerful enough to freeze cancer for years?” it doesn’t seem so strange to me, I really don’t understand your reactions. I really need some explanations. If you tell me what makes you so scared, then, maybe I can change some aspects of my work with you but right now, I really don’t understand your reactions, I’m sorry. Please tell me what makes you so scared? Thank you. Laura. * Jason My suspicions are bordering on belief. I'd be surprised if we get a legitimate response, I've seen this kind of thing so many times before on the internet, it has all the signs. Sorry if I sounded nasty. For now though, Sue is correct, give her the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain herself. However, several posts from other members on this thread have asked for details from her, and the subsequent posts from Laura72 ignored them. ~temporarily bottling anger up until further notice~ ================================================= Anonymous Coward We are already in possession of technology far beyond that which is currently available to the general public. It is supressed to maintain the status quo of repression of the masses for the benefit of the few. People who try bring these technologies into the mainstream are either threatened into solence, wind up dead, or are bought off. Please tell us why you think your case will be any different. I don’t understand you, you are complicated. I’m not interested in empty thoughts, just try to help me find anybody who could guide us a little bit to know more, that’s all. Is it possible that such a tool as the internet is finally a completely empty tool thanks to the manipulations of the government? Then we really have to wonder, because our society is really in a ** position. Laura. Restart Mankind already has all the knowledge when it comes to heal cancer (ask why Pharma, Corp + politicians desire to hide that and why certain physics are being supressed) and how to get free energy (ask why they desire to hide that, but its not hard to guess) and also knows for a fact about the 'alien' presence. Linked to ancient secrets mankind call religions. (ask why they desire to hide that, and has deliberately twisted mankinds history) This 'science team' smile should know that too. If anyone do know about what you describe, I hope they do NOT tell you or anyone here. It would be known that mankinds leaders are too ego. Second, whats to say a MAN could handle the energies, or have the right frequency as a Controller ; ) 'Science teams' linked to this [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] are far to eager to keep mankind in the Dark. As for the info you dropped, its not THAT hard to find out who you where if it was for real - you dropped info about your special diploma, and that it is an international science team, with the countries involved too... I do not understand why you drop soo much details IF you would be concerned for your safety and / or others of the team. Seriously now.... get a grip. … Interesting info spilled from random forumparticipants? Hmm... there is far more heavey objects online who has their own websites, who has whistleblown - why not contact them instead, should be far more rewarding. And if you are interested in language - ancient symbols and hieroglyphs: [link to www.viewzone.com] THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT [link to www.disclosureproject.com] David Wilcock has interesting info.. Check out the video on 2012 Enigma on Youtube, heres his site: [link to www.divinecosmos.com] Anonymous Coward Nice story op, but without proof or evidence it's just that "a nice story". I don’t know what happened to everybody to be so crazy and aggressive? I just feel sorry for you. Now as a team of scientists, we aren’t usually working on this kink of topics, so we know nothing about energies, knowledge about cures and so on, and I must say that since we’ve seen what we have seen on the internet, finally we feel very happy not to be concerned by these strange files, indeed. We are just trying to finish our research on the internet concerning this disk. Is there anyone who can help us without being completely crazy, but just efficient and well balanced. Thank you. Laura. Dancer All right, have you looked into the original "Wingmakers" materials? There seems to be some possible linguistic crossover, at least in potential, which may mean that there are other points of connection. It is hard to tell without pictures for comparison however, but you may have a possible lead. I believe a simple web search should turn up this data. Take care friend. D. That’s a very kind answer, unfortunately we checked the windmakers website and there’s nothing interesting for us. Still thank you very much for the information. Laura. Anonymous Coward Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8320 : Nice story op, but without proof or evidence it's just that "a nice story". yes, you REALLY must bring some link or picture (or both!) etc. to validade your claims. without that your MANY words will be useless and this thread will die much sooner than you expect. believe me! This is incredible how deeply you developed power and threatening on the internet. I can tell you that before I found the world of universities too much in the control of the ego but since I know the internet, I find this world of universities, a world full of harmony and gentleness. Laura. _______ Dantheman62: It sounds kinda strange, I mean why would he give it to her and not say, bury it or give it to a good longtime friend or family member.Maybe he was part of some organization or even ET type being. Does he have any background you can research? I don't know but there are alot of questions. Some aspects of what this man did stay a mystery to me, still I can answer a point. He didn’t give this disk to one of his friends because he wanted to give it to someone who had almost no relation with him. With Melanie, it was the case, because they just met during their holiday. For the rest, no, we don’t have any element otherwise I wouldn’t be writing to everybody like this. As I said before, trying this on the internet, we have followed every other system. Every time we arrive nowhere. If you can help… Laura. Malletzky: Could you tell us which army attacked this man and killed his son? I assume, according to your previous posts, that this all must have happened in Germany. So if "die Bundeswehr" should do this, it would realy surprise me. Yeah, I know that the "dark forces" are everywhere, so I will not claim it is not posible. But Bundeswehr? Or maybe some "secret" parts of it? And when exactly did this all happened? Few years ago?? Can you give us an aproximate Year? Do you have any links to any german newspapers which might have covered this? Would be interresting to read about.... As far as we know it was about 4 or 5 years ago, and no, it wasn’t in Germany but it was in Europe. Now, don’t believe that when some “forces” are doing some regrettable actions it’s written in the newspaper. As I said we tried all of that before and it leads nowhere, that’s why we are trying something new through the internet. Laura. Pamela: Laura, you should post these questions on the Open Minds Forum, they have many members that have studied various texts, crop circles and other artifacts. You might get some valuable information from the members there. Thank you very much I will!! Cheers. Laura. Exchanger: why don't you email support@projectcamelot.org and, then Bill & Kerry, will contact you direct i agree, your story, would be much easier to follow if you provided a location/and, date=to=date occurance type of reporting (oldest/to newest info) interesting-never-the-less, and, looking forward to hearing more, about this thank you, I’ll have a look at that, and I’ll let you know. Laura. welcome to project avalon brightest blessings susan the eXchanger feardia: If the artifact was found in ireland can u tell us which part? Ireland was the only part of the known world not conquered by the Roman empire, there are many links back to the middle East and Sumeria and stories of ancient boat trips to the meditterranean, it would only take two weeks to sail from Ireland to the med, whereas to travel overland would have taken months. The 'pilgrim's route' which goes over the Dingle peninsula to brandon creek is taken as the route which pilgrim's took from Ireland to northern spain and on to the Holy land, however there is an opinion that the route was in the other direction from Europe to ireland. Legend has it that this is the route by which the Holy Grail was brought to ireland and there is currently major work going on at Tara (the ancient capital) under cover of the building of an unnecessary motorway through what is a UNESCO world heritage site- Opus Dei and spanish company Ferrovial are involved in this work, which is continuing despite the opposition of 90% of the people- EU contract law apparently. The templars also came to ireland when they finished the crusades, and of course Atlantis was just off the coast. Anyway, I shall follow your story with interest, one love "Ancient Ireland knew it all," George Bernard Shaw. Thank you, what you wrote is very interesting. I only know that it was in the south of Ireland. Melanie wrote some words about Kilarnay park but I don’t know if we can trust that. Laura.

11-16-2008, 05:13 PM	#9
Seth Haniel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hartlepool England But Moving Shortly to Fauldhouse Scotland Posts: 172	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact there is a Killarney Park at Killarney, Co Kerry, Ireland (notice 'e' instead of 'a' and double 'l' in spelling) What is the weight of the disc - I have a feeling that it is lighter than it looks - do you have a photo of the discs base ?? It has a familiar look to it ??? !!!

11-16-2008, 07:33 PM	#10
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hi Laura,Thanks for the tenacity;have you any shots of the underside of the disc-i'm curious of the underneath,suppose i'm stilll a child at heart,looking under stones to find creepy crawlies and so forth;this kinda curiosity gets me into trouble!!lol.

11-17-2008, 01:42 AM	#11
Argyll Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cheshire UK Posts: 10	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact what a load of tosh!!.....if anyone buy's into this you are a fool!

11-17-2008, 07:38 PM	#14
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Giaoue: Hello, very interesting story & when I was reading the part of this disk being like a hard disk with info within in it I knew I had a heard of a similar story about these disks discovered in the 1930's in the mountains of Tibet called the Dropa Stones. Here is a link for more info about those particular disks that date back about 12,000 years ago --- www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html I know you stated the origin of your disk was in Ireland but just like the pyramids, which have been discovered in every content including Ireland, then maybe disks are also ancient artifacts that could be connected with every ancient civilization as well. Just check out the site or maybe you've researched that, too. I love to hear different experiences that are very unusual but extremely significant to our own dysfunctional civilization. Love SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever) Hello, That’s indeed very interesting. At last, I have something that is helping with our research. I didn’t yet check the link, first, I’m answering you and two other people. Information I have can go with what you explained, even if it’s not yet completely clear. First, about the artefact, the disk, it was found in Ireland, but as far as we know from Melanie, this disk had been put there, but was somewhere else before. The disk was supposed to be 50000 years old, while it had been in Irealand for a more or less long time. Maybe centuries or one or two thousand years, I don’t know exactly. Now we had some unclear information about the language used on this disk to deliver information, but what you said now is indeed very interesting, because the man who used to come to Melanie’s house explained that the language was written in a sort of Runic alphabet, but it was spoken like a language from Tibet. Maybe, there’s a link that could help me to approach the origin. I’ll analyse the link you gave with the greatest interest and I’ll let you know if there’s anything that I could use there. If you are interested, I can give you a picture of the language we have. Maybe some people could help us get some explanations about this strange writing. Let me know if you are interested in seeing that. Thank you veeeeeeeeeryyyyyyyyyyyy much anyway for your help. All the best. Laura. Dan22 I suggest that if you are very upset by insults, just ignore them and focus on the positive questions or comments you receive regarding your story. Life is too short to be upset by unintelligent people who only attack for whatever reason or agenda they may have. If you let them upset you then they control you. Secondly, the best way to be safe from attacks similar to the one you describe by the “army” is to get your information out to as many people as possible. Perhaps publish some of the pictures of, and text from, the disk if you have them. Regards Very wise my friend and this is what we have decided about the insults. We just ignore them. In fact you can see that now, to answer I just take positive answers, I just ignore the rest. About the danger, first, we weren’t attacked by the army, this man was. We never had any problems ourselves, but we are just careful. Anyway, you are right, we think that if this story is completely true, it doesn’t belong to us but to mankind and afterwards, unless someone wants to attack the complete humanity, we’ll feel safer. That’s why we do our best to spread the story. Now, on the other hand, this is not our story and we try to make sure that we aren’t spreading stupidities. We know the side effect of this disk, but what was it exactly? Where does it come from? Who was this man? Why did he disappear? And even stranger for me, why does nobody remember that story while I know for sure that it was largely spread on the internet? Is it possible that some authorities managed to deny this story? All this is so strange for us. One of my friends told me something very interesting about “the prieuré de Sion”. This group was very well known in many different countries. Then in France they decided to deny this story. The leaders explained that it was an invention. very quickly, many different websites started to repeat the same story. After a short while, if you wanted to be a serious website, you had to be aware about this so called scam. A few months later, any website that was talking of the “prieuré de Sion” was just ridiculous. In less than a year, the “prieuré de Sion” disappeared completely from the French internet. Today, you’ll find the story of the same scam written everywhere. Finally, they could deny a historical fact and rub it off the internet all over the world. Is it possible that this story was rubbed out the same way? Why don’t we get any answers from someone who knows the story? They don’t have to believe it, they just have to know it. Anyway, thank you very much for your very nice post. All the best. Laura. whitecrow: Laura, I want to encourage you in your investigations. My own chief frustration regarding the "ET question" is lack of artifacts or proof. I happen to think they exist, but I can also think of alternate explanations for everything from UFOs to crop circles, so I'm keeping my mind open wide. I also thought of the Dropa stones. These I have actually seen photos of, although they are a mystery, and I know they do exist. I also thought of the Wingmakers material, about which I wrote a fairly lengthy commentary on another forum. Supposedly artifacts exist from this site, although what I saw at the website was very disappointing, and the artwork there looks like modern pigments were used. So, who knows. I hope someone has this artifact (or artefact) and you can track it down. If it has been filched away into government clutches, it is no doubt lost to us forever as they try to adapt it to military use. I hope to learn more about this as you discover new data. If I could make one small request...large pages of unbroken small type are very difficult for me, at least, to read. If you could break your words into smaller blocks it would be a lot easier to read. Yes, I know I’m lazy about my writings and presentation, but you know in my job I write so much… I’ll do my best to improve. I AM Sorry!!!!!! See, my presentation is improving. I’ll check which kind of pictures we have in our files, and I’ll put them online as I did for the disk itself. Maybe that will help some of you give us more data, and anyway, I really think that the more proof is shown and the less we are in danger. I’ll let you know when I have done it. All the best. Laura. Harper : Laura, have you considered Ogham as a possible language? About Ogham….. I printed this alphabet and I did some research with the text I have myself. I didn’t find any special link, still some letters could have the same origin, but, it’s not obvious. Anyway, thanks a lot because at least for my personal knowledge it was very interesting. All the best. Laura. **seekntruth: Laura, I would also like to encourage you to continue your research. There is an enormous amount of fear lurking just under the surface of many people's fascination with UFOlogy. They want positive change to occur on the planet, but they are uncertain of the real consequences of such change. And so they should be! We should proceed with caution. I know you must do what you know is best for your research, and I'm sure you'll narrow the field of potential blogs until you find the best group of people who can openly share their honest ideas with you. I certainly hope that Project Avalon becomes one of your best sources of information. Thank you for sharing your story so far, and I look forward to learning more. Thank you indeed, it’s good to feel that we can meet some interesting people who can share in a clever way. It’s good also for my psychology because during a little while I was about to give up. I’m starting to see through my research that the situation on our planet is not clear at all. Too many people, leaders, know things but control everything. As a scientist, I can tell you that our planet is really much more ill than what is said everywhere. I know that it could look utopian to believe that some knowledge from aliens could help our civilisation, for me, what I see as completely utopian, is to believe that our planet will survive without a complete change in the way of thinking and living of your complete civilisation. Thank you for your being open and your honesty. All the best Laura

11-18-2008, 02:03 AM	#15
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact I suspect Laura Walker is not English. I'll explain later.

11-18-2008, 04:03 AM	#16
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact i see something, to the disk, that is normally common only to crystal pieces - from the photographs so, i am looking forward to hearing more about this disque/or disk i am curious, also, to see its "bottom side" and, to know the weight, and, dimensions of the piece cheers/susan the eXchanger

11-18-2008, 05:20 AM	#17
mach66 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Way Southern california Posts: 26	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Laura, I am very intrigued and yet perplexed. I have read the whole thread now and have to say I have a mixed bag of emotions. You come across as both a good person truly after information and as suspicious. Please don't take the suspicious comment as negative, it is only a perception. In this regard, you would have to expect the negative comments you have received. Plust everyone on Project Camelot and Avalon, well not everyone, but a lot of peple, are either egocentric, or just plain paranoid. You have done a great job of figuring out how to deal with these types of personalities = ignore them. I congratulate you. You seem oddly placed in this world to me. You are obviously German and a scientist or researcher. For someone with a scientific background, you have an extremely spiritual nature. That might be bery possible in Germany, here in America, highly unlikely. the thing that puzzles me the most and the thing I find to be your most likeable attribute, is your naivete. For a scientist/researcher, you seem so pure in your heart and like me, you expect the rest of humanity to be the same way. What puzzles me is your reaction to the many rude people on the internet and the fact that there are so many rude people on this planet. I figured that was common worldly knowledge? I think it is very cute/attractive that you seem bewildered by the many mean people.. I guess I envy you. It makes me jealous to think that there is actually a place on this Earth where someone can grow and reach an age of at least their 30's and "not" realize there are so many messed up (mean) people out there. That's pretty sad isn't it? It jsut goes to show how we have been locked up in a spiritual jail and the keys were thrown away a few thousand years ago. Our spirits have been left to rot in prison, while our egos have been allowed to run a muck and become totally out of control and "controlled". I would say continue your search, stay true to your goals, watch out for manipulation, be most careful of who you meet and never ever lose your sense of empathy for the rest of us. My suggestion at this point would be to allow your postings to do their job. You have posted where you need to. Those rivers need to run their courses. Have you considered using a few different psychics? If you have actual photos or other material which has been associated with anyone in this case, a psychihc of the right type could pick up on things, visions, people, places etc.. and possibly lead you down a different river a bit faster than an internet search full of haters, and people trying to use you for their own goals. Meeting with Bill and Kerry might be your best bet right now if you plan continuing your stay here at Camelot. However, be careful with anyone you meet. They do seem to be the real McCoy though.. Peace and love to your spirit, Mach66 Last edited by mach66; 11-18-2008 at 05:25 AM.

11-18-2008, 06:59 AM	#18
ocan Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact I, too, first thought of the dropa stones when you described your story. ~I suspect that this might also function as some sort of base. It is part of a larger entity or something is used along with this base. Do you know of or have heard of any other objects that were used along with the base? Placed on it? Or maybe were somehow levitated above it, such as an orb? ~The link given above to http://www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html speaks about "Chi Pu Tei, a professor of archaeology at Beijing University" that studied the dropa stones. If the information is not false I suggest your team try to contact someone who knew the professor or worked with him and see if they can help you out, if the story is real. ~From the link above: "In 1965, Professor Chi Pu Tei and four of his colleagues were finally given permission to reveal their theory. They published it under the title 'The Grooved Script concerning Space-ships which, as recorded on the Discs, landed on Earth 12,000 years ago'." I suggest you find the publication, if it exists. And maybe try to contact family or people who knew the professors colleageus. ~Also on this site http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dropas2.html they speak of another "Professor Tsum Um Nui of the Academy of Prehistoric Research in Beijing. ~Another good option that others have also suggested is that you contact Bill & Kerry they have many contacts in the UFO community and may be able to lead you in the right direction. Last edited by ocan; 11-18-2008 at 07:15 AM.

11-18-2008, 11:33 AM	#19
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact As Mach66 said, you are obviously German. I didn't say at the time because it was late, and I was too tired to explain, but that is why I said I said I suspected you were not English. Now kicking off your whole presence off here with "Hi my name is Laura Walker and I'm English" which if you are German, would be a blatant lie, that would call into question everything from your second sentence.

11-29-2008, 09:10 PM	#22
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hello everyone, Here is a long sum up of many mails I had with Arecibo an ex-member of the team who found the disk. It’s very long because we had a lot of exchanges and what this poor fellow says is really terrible. I know some of you here are going to say that I’m too pure, still… this guy gave me a chapter that he wrote in a book that was written by Charly, the one who led the operation, the one that Melanie knew. Now I know his name, if it is his real one. As this chapter is very important but quite long, I’ll post it here as a next post. In this chapter, the only one he wrote in this book, he explains how he could extract information from the disk and what happened before and after this. In spite of also speaking of having been in jail where he was sent for 9 months, it’s still very extraordinary compared to what he says afterwards. Arecibo told me that nothing really exists. As I couldn’t make it out, he said that the governments of all countries can do what they want. They can delete an identity, they can create whatever they want. When I wanted to know more, he explained that as the army that had attacked them couldn’t obviously speak about the disk, they created crimes they “had committed”, so that like this, the army was correct to attack dangerous people. Once it’s recorded in the computers, it’s over, you can’t help it. They can create or delete information as they please. It’s a part of the problem that no one can face according to him, because they play beyond the rules. He told me that on the websites where I go, no one will accept this information, we’ll see… good people are trying to solve a problem but they don’t know that the others, as he said, can change the problem whenever they want, like changing the architecture of a maze, so that you never find the way out. He explained that another part of the maze is our own psychology. What we have in our heads has been implanted by “aliens”, so that we never find the way out. Arecibo explained that we can never make a bridge between what we discover outside and what is in our heads. He said that it’s quite special for him to say that, because he left the disk-team because he couldn’t accept this discovery to “enter his psychology”. For years he hid alone seeing by himself what he didn’t want to see with this disk, ie, people’s psychology is a mess. This guy is very negative today, saying that our world goes towards its end, more exactly not the world but the population, and that there’s nothing we can do about it. He said that he is not hiding that he lives in Holland, because anyway he wants to commit suicide. He doesn’t want to hide anymore and be guilty of things and monstrosities he never committed. He declared that he has lost contact with the rest of the team for years. They were in Germany before and moved to Bulgaria as far as he knows, but he is not sure. He insisted very much on the power of the media who can destroy anything they touch. They can change everything as they wish as we have obviously seen with “the Roswell case” and so many other cases that I have been learning on many different websites myself. I asked him why he was so lonely. Why he didn’t have friends like him who are looking for the same secrets and he explained that even the people who want to know the truth still believe in authorities. At the same time they are going to say that “the Roswell case” is obvious and they are going to believe the government if they say that this is not true or that Arecibo is guilty of a crime. I personally believed this guy because he is completely down and didn’t ask for anything. He just wants to die, I think it’s obvious. It’s because he wants to pass away that he wanted to testify one last time before that. He spoke a little bit about the origins of our civilisation and of our fate and he said that everything was there. He kept repeating “I know the truth, the face of the monster that is holding our fate. I know the face of Satan and I’m not talking of a mystical entity, but an alien program to control our planet”. He was saying “it’s 666, which is a number of man, the beast is a human creation, the computer”. I know that when I take sentences like that, it could look very mystical but this guy isn’t mystical; otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to talk to him. He spoke with me a lot of two other things. The first one was a crop circle with a face of an alien and a disk with a binary computer language with threats. He said that the orbs were in the inside disks that were able to fight the system controlled and developed by aliens. He explained that they didn’t find a disk but an orb, that changed into a disk, and changed again into an orb afterwards. He explained that what they found in Ireland was very linked to Stonehenge and to crop circles. He spoke also of a case in Germany where three plates were found on a crop circle site (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxY98buBw2o), which were more or less like the disk they found in Ireland, even if the german government denies to have taken away these plates. Talking with him of crop circles, I asked him what was the link with Andreas Müller from the crop circles website, and he answered “none, unless it was when they moved away from Germany, this man is a liar because he never had any contact with them, well, as far as I know”. I asked how he could be sure that they didn’t talk with him after their departure, and he answered “because they left Germany because they were disgusted to take risks to speak with people who didn’t believe them but just insulted them, so I don’t know why they would have started to speak with someone again, maybe it was like this and they spoke, but I would be very surprised”. I have to add myself that when I asked more information to this man to know how he could be sure that it was a fake, he didn’t add anything. The lord has spoken, conversation over. Well I inquired a little bit about this man, I didn’t find a lot only that obviously for this guy, crop circles is a means to make money, which takes away the free objectivity of this guy… sorry… lord. Unfortunately I cannot get in touch with Charly through Arecibo. Where are you Charly? What do you hide exactly? I asked Arecibo if he knew anything about the curing abilities of the disk, he said that he had no idea about this. I know, this whole story looks too much like SF, but I don’t know, it stinks and I’m not talking of Arecibo’s witnessing, I’m talking about the complete story and the movements around this story. Too many people seemed to be involved. Too many shields have been built to hide … what… nothing… really it’s not clear. I hope that some of you who read me can help a little bit through all this because I’m quite lost. I leave you now with Arecibo’s report but bear in mind that this chapter was written many years ago so on some aspects it’s out of date, of course. Please, I really need some help even if I improved a lot on ufology stuff I need some help from people who could “read between the lines”. Greetings. Laura. PS Arecibo insisted on finding the team because he said that anyway, today, everything should be done to save the planet even if he believed that nothing can be done anymore. Yes, I know he is a bit paradoxical. Arecibo’s report You will see that this disc is very strange... I have a number of diplomas and certificates in the science of matter and in computer engineering. At the moment, I am working on a research project, and before that, I worked in a European Space Centre. But enough of me, let’s return to the ebony box that Ben, the archaeologist, had chosen first. Ben had been attracted to this box that glowed as if it had been covered in varnish. He had estimated the box to be about 1500 years old. Had we been able to stay longer at this site, we would surely have been able to make other discoveries, but the circumstances did not allow this. We had to leave the site very urgently and took the box that the archaeologist had started to analyse with us. As soon as we were at our house, we continued to analyse the box that was 70cm long, 37cm high and 31 cm wide. It had no hinges, you could feel no bumps when sliding your hand over it and after a long moment, we finally managed to un-stick 2 blocks. The first block had the same length, 70cm, a height of 18cm, and the same width, 31cm. The other block was 19cm high, 70cm long and 31 cm wide. Once the box was open, we discovered, to our greatest surprise, a ball of light that floated out of the box and started hovering above it. I think that nobody can imagine what joy mixed with anguish you can feel, asking yourself whether you will discover the worst or the best. This lightball, which, from afar, I measured to be 34cm, floated freely in the air without radiation, without apparent pollution and without heat. This means that the lightball was bigger than the box that had contained it. I had to come to the conclusion that the lightball contained something. As a matter of fact, the lightball had a diameter of 34cm and the disk later revealed itself to have a diameter of 21cm (so no problem, it fits into the box). With my scientific way of thinking, I had understood straight away that this lightball had to contain something solid that was smaller than the lightball, something, which fitted into the box. Fascinated for a long time by the intensity of the light this ball emitted, I was taken by a panic when I realised that I had forgotten to close the shutters and that the neighbours had to see this light and realise that something strange was going on in our house. So we quickly went outside to close the shutters, which happened to be on the outside of the house because the double-glazed windows had been badly installed. We then realised something amazing, although it was completely dark outside, it was during the night, you could not perceive this light from the outside, it did not shine through the windows. Stranger still, the windows remained completely black. I even thought that the light had gone out, but when I returned inside to check, I found the lightball still glowing (The light it emitted was extremely intense and even hurt the eyes). I thought it had to have been an illusion but after a few tests - I read an entire newspaper under this light and there was no other source of light in that room - I realised that it had to be true. Or can you read an entire newspaper in your illusion? I even double-checked what I had read in another room under a normal light. The result was the same. Some time later, another night, Charly was alone in the house; driven by his curiosity and his impatience, he touched the lightball and to tried to understand, using his psychic abilities, what it could be. When he touched it, the lightball immediately stopped glowing and a hard disk fell to the floor. Nobody could have thought that this light could hide a hard disk. When we discovered the disk, and although most of us were experienced scientists, a feeling of well-being suddenly inhabited us and the room we were in. The desire to touch the disk became so great that all the security measures we had taken at the beginning of this expedition were forgotten. The disk, which was incredibly pleasant to touch, had a diameter of 21cm and it was 1,618 cm thick. Yes, you recognised it: 1,618 is the golden number. I still do not understand how the disk came to be exactly 1,618 cm thick. It is almost impossible to reach such a precision. All the other measures were round figures, only this one had something behind the comma. I really could not explain how such a precise and important number could emerge. The disk was paved with concentric circles of a respective diameter of 5, 8 and 13 cm. You will note that these 3 numbers are part of the Fibonacci sequence (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13) Finally, I noted that the last cm of the diameter was indented which formed a sort of triangle when you look at this indention from the side of the disk. The luminous sphere, which had a diameter of 34cm shows the number 34, which is the number that comes after the number 21. These observations were absolutely breath-taking for me; the disk, in all its proportions, perfectly respected the golden number. This was in no way the case for the ebony box though, let me remind you, had the following measures: 37cm high, 70cm long and 31cm wide. The height was divided in one part of 18cm and one part of 19cm. The wood was 2cm thick and the inner part was prolonged by 2cm so that the box could close hermetically. The archaeologist confirmed that the box and the ligthball/hard disk had two different origins. For the archaeologist, the material of the box, i.e. the ebony wood spoke for itself, for me it was the mathematical language and the fact that the golden number had been used and respected so perfectly in the making of the disk that showed me that the two things did not come from the same source. The ebony box respected in no way the golden number, the proportions had nothing to do with a mathematical sequence, although this golden number could have easily been used for the box too. This brought me to the conclusion that the person who had made the box still ignored the existence of the golden number. Or maybe, but this is less probable, he had had no contact with the disk but only with the lightball. Let us return to the disk now: I remember that touching the disk plunged me into a serenity that scared me, contrary to all the other members of the team, like Charly, for example, who was completely fascinated by this object. A fascination that developed into a quest for the truth. The following few lines are very important in understanding the function of the disk that I was to discover much later. I was put in charge of determining the physical characteristics of the disc. As I was heading a section in a research laboratory at a European Space Centre, I undertook and carried out the research in secret: The disk is of unknown origin and has the particularity of emitting signals on a large spectrum. After having assembled and prepared the necessary material to analyse and tape the emitted signals, once I wanted to tape the signals, everything stopped. The computer bugged and froze and it was impossible to switch it back on. The failure of the experience was total. On top of this, I quickly realised that the disk no longer emitted any signals. After a few hours of anger and disappointment, I finally managed to relaunch the hard drive of my computer, and to my great surprise, I discovered an enormous file. It was a completely insignificant file, whose title I will not reveal for the moment. It was written in our language and with our alphabet. This file contained 1000 photos showing incomprehensible signs. The disk having stopped emitting signals I continued my experiments. I found out that the indented part functioned as an antenna for the entire disk. I only managed to retrieve a tiny part of the message it contained in comparison with its surface. Even bombarding the disk with shock or laser beams did not damage nor reactivate the disk. I thus stopped my research and Charly started with the translations. The disc, as simple as it may be in its form, had really disconcerted me by its function. I remained passionate about and fascinated by the download of the data without ever really understanding how it had gotten onto my computer. As I was immersed in the technical aspects of the disc, I was much less interested in its translation. When we started retrieving information on ego and personality, the information was so mind-blowing that it was hard for me to accept it. When the army attacked us, I was put in prison and remained under the watch of a merciless army. I plunged much deeper into mysticism and prayer because it was the only thing I had left in jail. I also discovered that I could not have done otherwise, with the drugs and all the rest they did to me, but to tell them what I knew. When they realised that I knew nothing of the translations, nor where the disc was hidden, they released me after nine months of custody, thinking that my death would have been detrimental to their cause. In fact, due to their reaction, I realised the importance of the teachings the disc contained. I realised that I was very much delayed and that this delay was responsible for the troubles between Charly and myself at the present moment. After more than eight years of inactivity, the disc has transformed itself into a lightball again for no apparent reason. I received the witnessing by mail from the person who looks after the disc and whom I only know by mail. This person told me that every time Charly goes to see the lightball, it doubles its volume, but Charly seems not to realise this. Yet every time he comes back from seeing the lightball, he is more and more different. He resolves problems he never resolved before and he is more and more different. With my scientific mind and my spiritual delay, I perceived these changes as very strange and very worrying. This plunged me into very regrettable negative attitudes. I finally had a long conversation with Charly and discovered that he was perfectly aware of the changes of the light’s radiance, but that he did not want to speak about it out of humility, and also to avoid troubles. He explained to me that because he had perfectly adapted his brain to the ET’s way of thinking, they were doing a sort of „download“ on him regularly, every time he went to see the lightball. He did not want to speak about this because it would have sounded too elitist, which goes against his principles. Why did he decide to speak to me about this and give me the authorisation to speak about this here? Because it is now that he can transmit this information to other people, once they have adapted their mind to the ETs way of thinking thanks to Fao and the elimination of the cerebral viruses given by the dragons. This helped him a lot. He regularly returns to see the lightball with a lot of joy and enthusiasm, because he knows that he works for himself and for all the others too. As for me, who was the one who initiated the download of the data, I am desperate to see that I am not capable of integrating the information now because I have not yet managed to accept the „clarification program“ in my mind, the anti-virus or anti-bug program given via Fao. Nothing is lost, I must still have some time to catch up with the work, because I can feel that right now, something fabulous is happening. Small note by me, Laura, Finally I found out that the name of the file was in French, but the rest of the retrieved document was in an alien language that they called fao. Arecibo also told me that Melanie had contacted him via email when the disc started to glow again. He was the contact person.

11-29-2008, 09:32 PM	#23
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Anonymous “A team of 5 experts discovered in Ireland an old celtic site old of many thousands years. It has stayed untouched for one thousand five hundreds years. On this site the team, an archeologist, a computer expert, an expert of old languages, an architect and a biologist discover a black chest made in ebony wood. This box is obviously not celtic. After days of studies to open this chest without damaging anything, they discover at last what is inside. To their utmost surprise, they see a ball of light which is floating in the middle of the chest. After days of work on this lightball to understand what it could be, the linguist guy pushed by impatience and inattention touches this famous ball. He feels no pain, but the ball will stop at once its radiance, leaving a kind of very small flying saucer. This one seems to be a very highly sophisticated hard disc. Its origin is obviously extraterrestrial. Months of studies will be needed to be able to produce something from this extraterrestrial technology. At last the computer expert will produce a kind of text printed directly as pictures from this hard disc. These texts are written mainly in Runes mixed with points and other signs. Those other signs and drawings were completely unknown. Years will be needed by the whole team to be able to translate these strange extraterrestrial texts. Its contents is really fabulous and even more incredible is the fact that the texts were stocked in this hard disc until the precise second where it was touched by the language expert. The knowledge brought in these texts is so revolutionary for humanity that it means a complete change in our way to understand our past but mainly to deal with our very near future. Once more years will be needed for the team to integrate such extraterrestrial ideas. The results of such a way will be a complete liberation of the psychology and even little by little an integration of psychic powers. The teaching of the disc invites mankind to step into the consciousness needed to belong to the cosmic brotherhood, among the other races who know and see each other so often. This today should be humanity’s place and we must learn to get it. All the explanations about a huge cosmic war were also given in the texts. The cultural and psychological knowledge given through these means are no contest, b! ut the biggest event of our civili A team of people more or less close to the team of scientists have decided to witness what they learnt through the team of scientists. The changes brought by these teachings are incredibly powerful and if you start this so astonishing experience, your life will be completely different in the future. It’s not here a simple cultural experience but a real revolution in your life. You’ll have to be strong and open-minded to digest these fabulous explanations. All this is powerful enough to change completely the destiny of mankind. We try through this posting to gather a maximum of people. Most of the population is afraid of such a discovery and we know it’s very hard to find enough people to exchange about such a subject. That's the reason why we contact you directly by mail : we could gather the whole team of witnesses on one forum which is in fact not a real forum because there is only one thread. Our thread-forum will be only one split into two, one in German and the same one in English. That is why we invite here everybody who could be interested to gather on the same following address: [link to thelightball.funpic.de] .By honesty and also because our goal is not to deal with a forum, ours, is and will stay only one thread. Our little forum is very new and we hope that some of you will be able to join this new experience which will produce a new thread on your own forum with a new circle of witnesses through our forum, because we wish to spread the knowledge from this astonishing event for the best of the world. We are doing our best to contact as many people as possible and as many forums as we can to gather the witnesses and the experience hoping that this will produce a new wave of information all over the world. The light ball gave also information about a kind of vessel called Merkabah (not exactly what is known in the Kabbalah) more used as a lighthouse to indicate to our cosmic brothers that we finally stepped into cosmic consciousness Each witness had a very different experience with the experts’ team. Some know some of them and only a little and some others know very well the whole team and even the hard disc itself, but everyone has a direct experience with this story. We believe that the diversity of the witnesses will bring more objectivity and interest for this so important subject which cannot be treated like any other subject. We hope to meet you in this so incredible discussion which will create a new spreading of the knowledge all over the world.” The organisers, one part of the witnesses. [link to thelightball.funpic.de] this site has been canceled Answer: That was very interesting and I thank Anonymous for giving that to everybody. I’m deeply impressed that you found that, I suppose in your computer. What an organisation! I’ve been talking a long time to Arecibo about this, I mean, through a lot of different emails. Here are his explanations. It’s quite interesting. He explained that this was a message he sent to millions of people under the form of a spam message, because it was the only possibility for him to contact so many people in a short time. I remember that someone somewhere on a forum said that he was surprised to never have heard about this story, well, that’s at least a proof that this story was largely spread. It’s interesting to see that on the web, a lot of things come and go but finally we remember very little of it. I asked what was the feedback of this spam, and he explained that thousands of people answered and went onto the forum, but no one wanted to understand, more exactly, only one. After this system one Austrian, called psi entered the team. That’s why, after this task, the team decided to hide completely and to avoid wasting any more time on spreading the information. It looks strange, but I think that the internet has destroyed the possibility of communication rather than the opposite. From my own experience, with what I have done on the web, I’m very disappointed. I received so many insults and while I started with over 60 forums, I have only 5 forums left. I have been banned from the others, and I even don’t know why. Now that I am in contact with Arecibo, I hope that I’ll be able to go further into this story. Still, he doesn’t know where the team is, so, it’s not so sure. Anyway I’ve been using the web to contact someone who knows something, and it worked. I could behave like many people and disappear now but it’s not my style. I want to carry on sharing information and maybe be helped by you as well. I have been talking to Arecibo about another aspect that I found strange. We are a team of experts from different universities, and the team who found the disk was also a team of experts. I found that very strange. Arecibo explained that the disk is choosing his interlocutors. The disk wants to meet people who form a team and it’s logical for the “philosophy of the disk”. I asked how a disk could have a “philosophy” and Arecibo explained that if we want to consider the disk as an extremely high and sophisticated computer we could understand that it can have its own conception of communication. I said that even if it could be possible the disk cannot influence us before meeting us. Arecibo said that the disk was also a very sophisticated mobile and could influence before we decide anything. That’s an aspect that doesn’t suit me, because I love to feel free in my movements. I’m planning to fly to Holland to meet Arecibo. Since we are in contact I find that Arecibo is much better because through me, he can act to help in finding this disk and his life is of some use right now. He said that he was doing his best to find Charly and his team but until now, he hasn’t succeeded. I’ll let you know if I have more information, if I start finding some info about Charly’s team and if I will fly to Holland or not. On your side, if you have any info, please let me know and if you have any questions for Arecibo, please you can write them here, I’ll transmit them to Arecibo who will answer. I hope that this story will touch some of you and will give you some energy to do more research about the secret behind UFOs. All the best, to all of you. Laura. Last edited by laurawalker72; 11-29-2008 at 09:34 PM.

11-30-2008, 01:32 AM	#24
eaglespirit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CT, MA, RI Posts: 127	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hi Laura, Just read this thread today and sent You a private email! What You are doing here and at 'Comet 2012' IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! Please, please keep in touch with this story and keep the momentum going! NOW is the time! You WILL find the right People to make this all come to Light and help Us catapult forward as a Race of Spiritual Beings that are re-discovering and re-awakening to what We really are and what We are really capable of... "Changing Everything to TRUTH from a Propagated Lie, Now!" With Honor and Respect, Thank You, eaglespirit