The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale

unloadedgunn · 10-31-2008, 10:32 PM

The only "points" you are getting across are these: 1) That you have read volumes about the Christian faith, and obviously this written hodge-podge of contradiction fills an emptiness in you like nothing else. Were this not the case you would not be an ordained minister. Your references to a god who is an "engineer" is very patriarchal and Judeo-Christian sounding, but what would one expect from a minister? 2) That despite the mutual admiration society that you have going there with your fellow researcher, for what you perceive (mistakenly) as new and different insights about the bible, you are spewing the same medieval subservience that has gotten all of humanity into the mess we most certainly are in NOW. 3) Anyone gravitating toward scripture which has been used as the justification of untold millions of deaths, for use as anything other that the toilet paper it obviously is, needs some help.

The aforementioned was written with all due respect. I apologize for my strong words, but all the lucid literature I have been reading of late tells me to speak up LOUD AND CLEAR and denounce BS when I see it. It is time that this stuff gets called out. I'm sure the world is full of regretful people who wished they had spoken out about their respective truths, and I won't be one of them. Nor does it seem that either Norval or Gale will be.

unloadedgunn · 10-31-2008, 10:34 PM

A great big "amen" to ya bandit!!!

Norval · 10-31-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

The only "points" you are getting across are these: 1) I'm sure the world is full of regretful people who wished they had spoken out about their respective truths, and I won't be one of them. Nor does it seem that either Norval or Gale will be.

Thank you

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While Gale and I may have not been the first to alert the PTB, governments and so on,
about the bible ET connection back in 2002 with out the religious implications, we are not
the last to have made, or are making, this connection. Good questions and thoughts
Monkey, yet we have already answered those questions and ideas if you but read our
threads and posts about what the bible says.

It is good that many would question these things about who has what authority over
whom. We could entertain many ideas or philosophies yet it comes down to this simple
point. Mankind has been given ample time to read the document submitted by that
Kingdom authority (bible) and today is about to be held accountable to it's codes and
laws, just as the rest of the sentient intelligent life of the universe does, and have agreed
upon.

We are to look at all the evidence around us, what we see is the evidence of design and
incredible engineering, and all for us. Then we have the "us" a created sentient intelligent
life form called mankind or human. This, the document clearly states. Mankind were all
born under that Kingdom governance, but because of our being created with the qualities
we possess it was demanded by some that we be tested as to those qualities. A major
part of that testing is now over and we are about to enter into full blown membership in
that Intergalactic Kingdom.

Those that opposed this governance by a King have attempted to make their point and
have lost, both in thought and deed. The majority of the peoples of the galaxies have
agreed to this governance by a King, now that same choice has been offered to mankind.
It is as simple as being in truth to your heart that you ARE a good neighbor and will
conduct yourselves accordingly towards all sentient intelligent life forms of like mind. If
not, and you decide to do harm, be assured there is someone with the authority and
power necessary, appointed to this position, that will do what is necessary if your
neighbors don't, and then deal with why the neighbors didn't deal with it.

Simple codes to live by and apply to every sentient intelligent life form in the galaxies. Our
choices to make, the decision is for each and every person to make for themselves. The
document is in most peoples hands around the world today or is now easily obtainable for
most. Mankind can now comprehend that document, the bible, for we all can entertain
the ideas of an intergalactic government, because of our technological achievements and
our knowledge of the sciences, and some of "theirs".

AndyH · 10-31-2008, 10:50 PM

My own conclusion is that the bible is irrelevant.
Why?
Because it has been translated many times and butchedred at the council of nicea.
Nuff said.

unloadedgunn · 11-01-2008, 04:33 AM

I guess when the veracity, historicity, and and authenticity of the bible are ALL in question to anyone actually paying attention...and this is the ONLY document you have to base the body of your "evidence" upon, everything is at question. You could tell me the daytime sky is usually blue, and I would question it because of the utter craziness of basing so called "research" on old, archaic, and passe' mythology. But you keep on tryin' Norval, I am guessing that a guy like you will have an easy time converting those people who have been indoctrinated into formal religion, and are strong minded enough to turn their backs to it, but not QUITE strong enough to gravitate to anything that doesn't smack of patriarchal dogma. Perhaps this is exactly why you are here, to grab up all the folks disillusioned by Christianity BEFORE they find the real truth. Keep up the good fight!

Gale · 11-01-2008, 05:39 AM

This research has nothing to do with religion or a cult nor grabbing up anyone in the context you are using. It’s about the survival of the human race in the face of what is coming. It is the culmination of years of research into the sciences, the mythologies, the Bible and other ancient writings. Whereas, the Bible is the only document that has had all the answers i.e. who, what and why we humans are here; who, what and why they are here, as well as timeline.
It is obvious some will never understand.

10-31-2008, 10:32 PM	#1
unloadedgunn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 66	Re: The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale The only "points" you are getting across are these: 1) That you have read volumes about the Christian faith, and obviously this written hodge-podge of contradiction fills an emptiness in you like nothing else. Were this not the case you would not be an ordained minister. Your references to a god who is an "engineer" is very patriarchal and Judeo-Christian sounding, but what would one expect from a minister? 2) That despite the mutual admiration society that you have going there with your fellow researcher, for what you perceive (mistakenly) as new and different insights about the bible, you are spewing the same medieval subservience that has gotten all of humanity into the mess we most certainly are in NOW. 3) Anyone gravitating toward scripture which has been used as the justification of untold millions of deaths, for use as anything other that the toilet paper it obviously is, needs some help. The aforementioned was written with all due respect. I apologize for my strong words, but all the lucid literature I have been reading of late tells me to speak up LOUD AND CLEAR and denounce BS when I see it. It is time that this stuff gets called out. I'm sure the world is full of regretful people who wished they had spoken out about their respective truths, and I won't be one of them. Nor does it seem that either Norval or Gale will be.

10-31-2008, 10:34 PM	#2
unloadedgunn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 66	Re: The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale A great big "amen" to ya bandit!!!

10-31-2008, 10:50 PM	#4
AndyH Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 289	Re: The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale My own conclusion is that the bible is irrelevant. Why? Because it has been translated many times and butchedred at the council of nicea. Nuff said.

11-01-2008, 04:33 AM	#5
unloadedgunn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 66	Re: The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale I guess when the veracity, historicity, and and authenticity of the bible are ALL in question to anyone actually paying attention...and this is the ONLY document you have to base the body of your "evidence" upon, everything is at question. You could tell me the daytime sky is usually blue, and I would question it because of the utter craziness of basing so called "research" on old, archaic, and passe' mythology. But you keep on tryin' Norval, I am guessing that a guy like you will have an easy time converting those people who have been indoctrinated into formal religion, and are strong minded enough to turn their backs to it, but not QUITE strong enough to gravitate to anything that doesn't smack of patriarchal dogma. Perhaps this is exactly why you are here, to grab up all the folks disillusioned by Christianity BEFORE they find the real truth. Keep up the good fight!

11-01-2008, 05:39 AM	#6
Gale Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 120	Re: The Bible, Our Conclusion. by Norval and Gale This research has nothing to do with religion or a cult nor grabbing up anyone in the context you are using. It’s about the survival of the human race in the face of what is coming. It is the culmination of years of research into the sciences, the mythologies, the Bible and other ancient writings. Whereas, the Bible is the only document that has had all the answers i.e. who, what and why we humans are here; who, what and why they are here, as well as timeline. It is obvious some will never understand.