Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

GoingToFast · 10-17-2008, 09:03 PM

What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

fawziya · 10-17-2008, 09:41 PM

Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Carol · 10-17-2008, 11:23 PM

Hi fawziya,
I have Credo Mutwa's DVDs where he was interviewed by David Icke. He was very interesting to listen to as his experience was with the greys and Reptilians. However, Alex Collier did say his ET sources told him that the differernt races came from different ET sources... different planets and such, so it is no wonder we don't get along. That comment had me laughing for days.

From other materials I've read it also seems that some ETs did live among the people many years back... including the Reptilians among the Native Americans.

That little bit came from a military abductee who revealed to me that she has 6 hybrid Reptilian children. She had also writen a book which I have but it doesn't contain some of the other interesting follow-up information that she shared personally.

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Originally Posted by fawziya

Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Kituwa · 10-18-2008, 07:45 AM

I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.

BeaTnik-BandiT · 10-18-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kituwa

I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.

Ok. Thanks for the post.
Sorry for these terrible experiences.

I totally agree with you that mind control is more of a 'procedure' that breaks the individual's mind into compliance.
I agree too that this can be done successfully on every individual independently of their genetic heritage...

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Originally Posted by Kituwa

Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line. I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence.

Yes. Lineage is of the utmost importance to them and that could explain why you were involved.
This is why you see many world leaders having the same blood ancestors.

Regarding my post, i was reporting what i understood of Swerdlow's work.
And by the way, he could help you A LOT if you are in need.

I am quite sure at one point he told that people with dark complexion are 'harder' to manipulate for some reasons.

If we take a look at 'native' tribes all around the world, a lot of them have a 'darker' complexion.
These tribes are well connnected with the Earth energies, and know how to work with them in wisdom.

That could be a good reason why they were exterminated 'en masse' by the PTBs over the ages.

take care

10-18-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingToFast

What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

That seems to be exactly the opposite of saying the "blond/redhead-breed" is easiest to subject to mind control... in your scenario they would be the contollers not the controllees.

Unless he means that by the "blond/redhead-breed" accepting the 'job' of oppressor, that means naturally they 'must' be under mind control... because it's unthinkable that anyone would choose such a path of their own free will...

At least... THAT is what I see...'between the lines'

PodWORLD · 10-18-2008, 08:54 PM

Forgive me if I'm being too scientific but the world centres of conspiracy theory are California and Nevada so lot's of blondes and aeroplane blondes.

There are also many more blondes now that when I was a lad. Is is Aryanism? Fascism? (tremble) The Nazis? No it's hair dye which is great for covering up grey hair.

I have brown hair and blue eyes being of irish and scottish descent and I've no plans to take over the world nor do I feel that my mind is controlled.

Jenny · 10-18-2008, 08:58 PM

Chinderland · 10-19-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingToFast

What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

As I understand it, clark was asking why blond/redhead people were overrepresented in contactees/abductees/ufology, based on his observation.

If clark's observation is correct, this thread raises a valid research question for all of us interested in the subjects of ufology, illuminati, and mind control.

I am not experienced in these subjects. I was wondering if someone with in-depth knowledge could re-count the number of blond/redhead ppl from widely-known contactee/abductees? If there are indeed dispropotionally more blond/redhead in this group, it maybe a very important lead to disclose the alien and/or illuminati agenda.

I am Chinese and I have yet to see some Asian abductees or contactees interviewed for their experiences. How about some Indians and Japanese, too?

I mean we have quite big populations out there. Why not some of us?? At least give me some Asian American contactees, if the off-world beings prefer to abduct ppl in USA.

Peace.

Anticomuna · 10-27-2008, 01:41 AM

Clark Kent made a good question. It's very strange that the people involved with these kind of topics are blondes talking about alien blondes or bloodline obssessed conspirators. Come on, now everybody is descendent of some frigging royalty! And there's Alex Collier and the likes who insist on this "bloodline" royalty nonsense.

It's rather strange this insistence in certain characteristics, not only about the contactees/abductees themselves, but also from the supposed "aliens".

David · 10-27-2008, 04:49 PM

Very interesting topic.

spiritual_wanderer · 10-28-2008, 01:02 AM

This IS a very interesting topic. I think it boils down to blood type personally. The rh negative blood type appears to have some interest for the reptilian/Illuminati types. According to David Icke, it's the blood that enables the reptilians to hold human form. Arizona Wilder says in her interview with Icke that certain people are able to control the reptiles that come through in the Satanic rituals she was forced (through mind control) to perform.

10-17-2008, 09:03 PM	#1
GoingToFast Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Avesta, Sweden. Posts: 303	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

10-17-2008, 09:41 PM	#2
fawziya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: A nice place (minus smog) Posts: 33	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections. Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes. There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

10-18-2008, 07:45 AM	#4
Kituwa Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: TN Posts: 8	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.

10-18-2008, 08:54 PM	#7
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe Forgive me if I'm being too scientific but the world centres of conspiracy theory are California and Nevada so lot's of blondes and aeroplane blondes. There are also many more blondes now that when I was a lad. Is is Aryanism? Fascism? (tremble) The Nazis? No it's hair dye which is great for covering up grey hair. I have brown hair and blue eyes being of irish and scottish descent and I've no plans to take over the world nor do I feel that my mind is controlled.

10-18-2008, 08:58 PM	#8
Jenny Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 496	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe __________________

10-27-2008, 01:41 AM	#10
Anticomuna Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 116	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe Clark Kent made a good question. It's very strange that the people involved with these kind of topics are blondes talking about alien blondes or bloodline obssessed conspirators. Come on, now everybody is descendent of some frigging royalty! And there's Alex Collier and the likes who insist on this "bloodline" royalty nonsense. It's rather strange this insistence in certain characteristics, not only about the contactees/abductees themselves, but also from the supposed "aliens".

10-27-2008, 04:49 PM	#11
David Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 398	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe Very interesting topic.

10-28-2008, 01:02 AM	#12
spiritual_wanderer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 23	Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe This IS a very interesting topic. I think it boils down to blood type personally. The rh negative blood type appears to have some interest for the reptilian/Illuminati types. According to David Icke, it's the blood that enables the reptilians to hold human form. Arizona Wilder says in her interview with Icke that certain people are able to control the reptiles that come through in the Satanic rituals she was forced (through mind control) to perform.