Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston'

Lance · 10-09-2008, 12:02 AM

I was astounded at watching this and am already in talks to get a few hundred of these things made. Sure you can rub sticks, use a magnifier on sunny days etc. But this beats everything else and it is so simple. What an elegant design.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=133333

10-09-2008, 12:17 AM

this is cool... thanks. I am surprised I have never seen this before

ralok_j · 10-09-2008, 12:24 AM

Didn't Les the survivor dude on Discovery use one of these?

Orion11 · 10-09-2008, 12:52 AM

cool. thanks,... id forgotten about these.
heres some better links..

http://www.onagocag.com/piston.html

http://www.wildersol.com/

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/116979...iesel_lighter/

http://www.instructables.com/id/Start-a-fire-with-air/

10-09-2008, 01:20 AM

i dint want to start a new post for this
here are plans for a solar dehidrator

soldryer.jpg

Tez · 10-11-2008, 12:56 PM

Makes it look so easy, will have to have a go at making one and testing it out myself - as well as making and keeping a supply of Char.
Would try and have a few different methods still available though i think, but this is definitely a goer for me.

One thing i found out when trying to get a quantity of plain extra fine steel wool for ignition with a spark lighter is that you cannot get it as readily now since they brought out steel wool soap pads, stainless steel scourers and the plastic type scourers...............

We used to be able to access plain steel wool in large rolls very cheaply, and now it is in small packets (which are quite dear), if you can find a store that still sells it.

TranceAm · 10-11-2008, 01:40 PM

Wow, Lance..

That looks like one of the 'things' I would surround myself with, that I posted a couple of days ago. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...8&postcount=39

Btw, You are still posting here after you bad mouthed us on CIA Central?

http://www.rayelan.com/cgi-bin/forum...ames;read=7815

I won't post it all here but here is what was found after a lttle searching...I trust RMN and here and BBSradio much more.

Project Camelot was a social science research project of the United States Army in 1964.[1] The goal of the project was to assess the causes of violent social rebellion and to identify the actions a government could take to prevent it's own overthrow. The proposal caused much controversy among social scientists, many of whom argued that such a study would end up using social scientific research to strengthen established government and to put down revolutionary movements in Latin America and other volatile places. Chile was to be the test case for the project, but the Norwegian sociologist Johan Galtung, who had been invited to be a contributor, worked hard to alert Chilean and US social scientists of the project's true purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalon_Project

Disinfo, I don't know but I'll try out the censorship option right now by diggin though my Canuck dictionary and finding the word...hold on, its dark, one minute now...ah, here it is...#####.
It's in my dictionary as a slang word. 'Over there' whenever I typed this it would be ****. I said good bye to them as nicely as I could.

DISINFO.
ALL of it, except maybe St.Clair. Who stopped writing along time ago.

333mark333 · 10-11-2008, 01:54 PM

Well that certainly beats the firebow-drill. I would have never thought about that.
Thanks for the Thread

10-09-2008, 12:02 AM	#1
Lance Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Coastal British Columbia Posts: 183	Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' I was astounded at watching this and am already in talks to get a few hundred of these things made. Sure you can rub sticks, use a magnifier on sunny days etc. But this beats everything else and it is so simple. What an elegant design. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=133333

10-09-2008, 12:17 AM	#2
OceanWinds Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' this is cool... thanks. I am surprised I have never seen this before

10-09-2008, 12:24 AM	#3
ralok_j Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 124	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' Didn't Les the survivor dude on Discovery use one of these?

10-09-2008, 12:52 AM	#4
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' cool. thanks,... id forgotten about these. heres some better links.. http://www.onagocag.com/piston.html http://www.wildersol.com/ http://www.metacafe.com/watch/116979...iesel_lighter/ http://www.instructables.com/id/Start-a-fire-with-air/ Last edited by Orion11; 10-09-2008 at 01:07 AM.

10-09-2008, 01:20 AM	#5
crowmirror Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' i dint want to start a new post for this here are plans for a solar dehidrator soldryer.jpg

10-11-2008, 12:56 PM	#6
Tez Retired Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Where there is light Posts: 138	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' Makes it look so easy, will have to have a go at making one and testing it out myself - as well as making and keeping a supply of Char. Would try and have a few different methods still available though i think, but this is definitely a goer for me. One thing i found out when trying to get a quantity of plain extra fine steel wool for ignition with a spark lighter is that you cannot get it as readily now since they brought out steel wool soap pads, stainless steel scourers and the plastic type scourers............... We used to be able to access plain steel wool in large rolls very cheaply, and now it is in small packets (which are quite dear), if you can find a store that still sells it.

10-11-2008, 01:40 PM	#7
TranceAm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 368	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' Wow, Lance.. That looks like one of the 'things' I would surround myself with, that I posted a couple of days ago. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...8&postcount=39 Btw, You are still posting here after you bad mouthed us on CIA Central? http://www.rayelan.com/cgi-bin/forum...ames;read=7815 I won't post it all here but here is what was found after a lttle searching...I trust RMN and here and BBSradio much more. Project Camelot was a social science research project of the United States Army in 1964.[1] The goal of the project was to assess the causes of violent social rebellion and to identify the actions a government could take to prevent it's own overthrow. The proposal caused much controversy among social scientists, many of whom argued that such a study would end up using social scientific research to strengthen established government and to put down revolutionary movements in Latin America and other volatile places. Chile was to be the test case for the project, but the Norwegian sociologist Johan Galtung, who had been invited to be a contributor, worked hard to alert Chilean and US social scientists of the project's true purposes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalon_Project Disinfo, I don't know but I'll try out the censorship option right now by diggin though my Canuck dictionary and finding the word...hold on, its dark, one minute now...ah, here it is...#####. It's in my dictionary as a slang word. 'Over there' whenever I typed this it would be ***. I said good bye to them as nicely as I could. DISINFO. ALL of it, except maybe St.Clair. Who stopped writing along time ago. Last edited by TranceAm; 10-11-2008 at 01:46 PM.*

10-11-2008, 01:54 PM	#8
333mark333 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Western Shore of the Hudson Bay-churchill, manitoba, canada Posts: 301	Re: Forget Matches, Toss Yer Lighters, DIY 'Fire Piston' Well that certainly beats the firebow-drill. I would have never thought about that. Thanks for the Thread