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Old 10-07-2008, 02:51 AM   #1
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"What he's offering is a practical solution for a different branch of the Illuminati to take over from where the others leave off."

How is a society that is against the Illuminati their different branch?

I admit there are better plans out there than Fulford's [like outlined in the second Zeitgeist movie] but he has a pretty solid idea that would work, if it meant the required conditions.

Aparently most people who criticize him don't even know what he's talking about, as is clear from their comments. Wouldn't be bad doing a research on him first. Then people wouldn't confuse an anti-illuminati society with the Chinese government etc. Most negative comments here come from completely misunderstanding Fulford's standpoint.

Naming the thread "Benjamin Fulford promotes a new world order" is a clear proof of that.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:31 AM   #2
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How is a society that is against the Illuminati their different branch?
The Chinese control structure is one of the pyramids. It is the one-fourth scale of the Neocons' NWO.

"The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history." New York Times, 8-10-1973." - well known Illuminati member

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Old 10-07-2008, 08:54 AM   #3
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"What he's offering is a practical solution for a different branch of the Illuminati to take over from where the others leave off."

How is a society that is against the Illuminati their different branch?
There is infighting on every level. You see it in elections, you see it in business- climb over the other guy to move a rung up the ladder. In the USA and UK it doesn't mean a thing who our current President or Prime Minister is, because they do what they are told. Every election is a puppet show, but that doesn't mean that the puppets don't want to win.

The guys above them don't care who wins, because they control them both. All we get is the illusion of change.

The same applies higher up the pyramid at the secret society level, the black ops level, the intelligence level, and every other level that's been identified so far.

In the same way the elections are a sideshow for the masses, Fulford's offer is the same for us. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil, so all we have is the illusion of choice again!

It's another set of lies and false promises for those of us who have seen through the original lies.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:33 PM   #4
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When talking about the "Chinese," Fulford is NOT talking about the government most of the time. He is NOT talking about he Chinese ruling the world instead of the US either. I'm not even defending Fulford now, I'm pointing out again, that many people still don't get what he's saying.

To simplify things a lot, he's trying, rather than to get rid of the illuminati, to find a more peaceful solution and let them be where they are but make them change their whole policy. Spend money on feeding people instead of killing them. Compete not in who digs more oil and invades more countries, but in who helps more people and sends more food to where it's needed.

Putting aside whether that plan can work or not, he's trying the best he can with the position he has. Yet some people refuse to even listen to what's being said and get stuck on a completely nonsensical idea that Fulford wants "ze Chinese" to "rule ze world."
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:07 PM   #5
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Yes undetected you are right.

I've read this thread and seen the same problem in people's misunderstanding of what he's saying.

Yes, the Chinese government has done atrocious things in the past, but Fulfords society were the ones fighting them.
On top of that he's also not even saying he wants this chinese secret society to replace the Illuminati, he's saying the Chinese secret society is wanting, and always has wanted, peace.
They are only going to flex their assassin muscles in order to stop the Illuminati carrying out it's racial extermination plots.
They are not going to replace the Illuminati as the new power behind the scenes, rather making sure there is no power behind the scenes anymore. That there is an opportunity here and now for everything to come above board and into the open.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:23 PM   #6
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Yes undetected you are right.

I've read this thread and seen the same problem in people's misunderstanding of what he's saying.

Yes, the Chinese government has done atrocious things in the past, but Fulfords society were the ones fighting them.
On top of that he's also not even saying he wants this chinese secret society to replace the Illuminati, he's saying the Chinese secret society is wanting, and always has wanted, peace.
They are only going to flex their assassin muscles in order to stop the Illuminati carrying out it's racial extermination plots.
They are not going to replace the Illuminati as the new power behind the scenes, rather making sure there is no power behind the scenes anymore. That there is an opportunity here and now for everything to come above board and into the open.

Give everybody $ 100,000? What, give people 100,000 worhless bits of fiat currency so they can still be manipulated by bankers and the politicians that work for them? Doesn't sound like a solution to me; just more of the same.

When someone comes forward and suggests abolishing the monetary system, I'll listen. The post that suggested that it is OUR time is right on it. The resouces of the earth belong to us all, not just the bankers.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:42 PM   #7
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Give everybody $ 100,000? What, give people 100,000 worhless bits of fiat currency so they can still be manipulated by bankers and the politicians that work for them? Doesn't sound like a solution to me; just more of the same.

When someone comes forward and suggests abolishing the monetary system, I'll listen. The post that suggested that it is OUR time is right on it. The resouces of the earth belong to us all, not just the bankers.
Hey I like that post too. I don't necessarily go along with the 100,000 dollar idea either, but the point of what Fulford is getting at is that there wouldn't be the same old system of bankers and politicians to manipulate people.

There's a bigger picture to it than just taking individual points.

Although I wouldn't turn down 100,000 bucks either way. Who would, really?

Even without the banksters there has to be some kind of money though, for trading things bigger than can fit in our pockets, unless we all go back to caveman days.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:03 PM   #8
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You want a new monetary system? You don't contribute in even a small
way,you don't eat! a mutual agreement where even those that are maybe
unable to physically participate can at lest contribute though the sharing of
ideas that would help in the continuance the whole.
I've read of Many civilizations, prior to now,where that was the norm.
Look at native cultures prior to outside influences, where Everyone contributed regardless of physical circumstances. just a thought

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Old 10-07-2008, 03:36 PM   #9
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Don't get me wrong, I am FOR bulfords Ideal but without ANY secret society,
corporate, elitist control whatsoever! Isn't this what 2012's about? Isn't 2012 about a "new world order"? From what I understand, 2012 is to be about a NEW paradigm, where each and everyone is a sovereign entity and not under ANY others control. A world of mutual ideals that are not "governed"by a small faction. I CAN NOT agree with any change of power that subjugates the many,for the whimms of the few,under any curcumstances Period!

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