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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Oz, in Starke County Indiana
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As long as you got Big Pharma running the show, in my opinion, nothing will work;here or in Europe. There are to many good and sincere ideas that are destroyed.
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Where i place my feet
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you got that right, but the choise you got here is either to get treated or not get treated. Cause of you economy situation. Ive asked the one that started the thread to reply but she hasent dont this yet. I dont know, may be because she dosent have any answers to the questions i raise. I dont know, i think its a cowards way to put up your opinon and when someone questions it, the flee like rats to the sewer. Its rediqiolous
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: england
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my take on it is its a full govt soviet style takeover and is intended to id everyone if not outright chip them. what of dennis kucinich? he was seen on a plane woth obama having to give in to demands no doubt.
health care is just a mask they are using to push through their nwo agenda. the old system was bad so will the new system be. Last edited by pineal-pilot-in merkabah; 03-19-2010 at 07:17 PM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Turtle Island
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Kucinich is signing the bill.
Congressman Kucinich The Health Care Debate Has Been Severly Hampered By FEAR! From: MoxNewsDotCom | March 17, 2010 "This is not the bill I wanted to support." "Health Care is a 'right'." VIDEO (8:33): http://www.youtube.com/user/MoxNewsD...79/URDs5SKTPeI Kucinich changes mind on bill VIDEO: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...iref=allsearch WHAT ARE YOUR RIGHTS????? Great Interview for Ron Paul Ron Paul on John King USA Posted by Andrew Ward on 03/19/10 2:27 PM Congressman Paul on John King's new show on CNN discusses health care and the future of the GOP. "Health Care is not a 'right'." VIDEO AT SOURCE LINK BELOW OR HERE: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...iref=allsearch SOURCE: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=33723 Last edited by peaceandlove; 03-20-2010 at 03:17 PM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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What I believe is we have the 'RIGHT' to foods without chemical additives, to non-genetically modified foods, to non-chemicalized air and the right to choose alternative remedies instead of pharmaceuticals that poison and cause unprecedented deaths and increasing health issues.
Perhaps then, the health care debate would not be such an issue, perhaps then, there would not be so much 'ill health' in this country. Perhaps if they didn't put aspartame and MSG, etc. in our foods, people would not be so overweight and sickly, and then perhaps if we could choose what insurance company we wanted to use instead of all the regulation the price of insurance and doctor fees would go down. Perhaps if we had a truly Free Market we would then have a truly Free People. |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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For the Record.... Here in the U.S.,we have an open door policy at ALL U.S. hospitals to give treatment to anyone who walks through the doors. Legal or Illegal or Nationality is not a prerequest of treatman. We treat EVERYONE.
Having said that, Our hospitals are going broke because of the amount of illegal aliens that come across the border for treatment. We treat them all. If an illegal comes across the border to deliver their child,that child is now an American citizen and is entitled to Welfare,Food Stamps and free hospital until they are 18years old. This new health bill does NOT address the additional financial burden that Californians have to endure.. It's not even in the Bill. This cost alone is in the Billions. > From the L. A. Times > 1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has > 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying > taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal > immigrants working without a green card. > 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for > illegal aliens. > 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are > illegal aliens. > 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to > illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid > for by taxpayers. > 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention > centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. > 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are > living in garages. > 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles > are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. > 8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are > illegal. > 9. 21 radio stations in L. A.. are Spanish speaking. > 10.. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 > million speak Spanish. > (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . ) > > (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los > Angeles Times) I have as much compassion as the next person. Please explain why this Health Bill is SUCH a priorty and it does'nt even become enforceable until 2014? Why pay now before we see it in its WHOLE content? This two party Republican Democrat thing is terrible. I think the cost of illegl immigration to our country in immediate dollars should be a higher priority to reduce costs. BUT!!.. Obama is going to grant amnesty to all of them before the next election..and have them vote for him on the Democratic ticket.Terrible. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Final health bill omits some of Obama's promises
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 51 mins ago WASHINGTON – It was a bold response to skyrocketing health insurance premiums. President Barack Obama would give federal authorities the power to block unreasonable rate hikes. Yet when Democrats unveiled the final, incarnation of their health care bill this week, the proposal was nowhere to be found. Ditto with several Republican ideas that Obama had said he wanted to include after a televised bipartisan summit last month, including a plan by Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma to send investigators disguised as patients to hospitals in search of waste, fraud and abuse. And those "special deals" that Obama railed against and said he wanted to eliminate? With the exception of two of the most notorious — extra Medicaid money for Nebraska and a carve-out for Florida seniors faced with losing certain extra Medicare benefits — they are all still there. Continues: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health...ama_s_promises House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill By Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, March 19, 2010; A01 Pushing toward a Sunday vote that could transform the nation's health-insurance system, House leaders announced a $940 billion compromise Thursday that would extend coverage to the vast majority of Americans, cut billions of dollars from Medicare, and impose new taxes on the wealthy and the well-insured. Continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=11075 Comment at campaignforliberty link: How long until a band of military dissenters take up their oath to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies and form an attack on members of Congress? What If YOUR Call Determined the Outcome of Health Care Reform? Posted by Heather D on 03/20/10 12:55 PM Many people feel as if calling our legislators and demanding that they vote no on this health care reform package is futile. After all, we've called and emailed, attended Town Halls and rallies and passed out petitions - yet, a vote is still imminent. We've fought the good fight and helped to tip the balance of public opinion, and despite that, Congress continues to press on; is it time to accept defeat? What if ONE more call or fax is all it will take to bring a representative into the no column? What if ONE more comment on a local blog causes ONE more person to call their representative? What if ONE quick trip to your representative's local office makes the difference? What if defeating the existing Health Care Reform bill relies on YOUR next move? Please click here to find your representative's contact information: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/congress.php SOURCE: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=33736 |
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Phone Calls Continue to Batter Congress
Posted by Matt Holdridge on 03/20/10 12:55 PM From Roll Call: http://www.rollcall.com/news/44382-1...egate_friendly Quote:
Also, encourage the people in your circle of influence to do the same. Now is the time to pull out the stops! SOURCE: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=33763 Virginia Attorney General: If Dems Ram Obamacare Through House He Will Be in Court Next Week Posted by dljholt on 03/20/10 12:54 PM Virginia Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II told Greta Van Susteren on Thursday that if Speaker Nancy Pelosi and democrats use the unconstitutional tactic, deem and pass, to ram Obamacare through. VIDEO (1:35): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lkni...layer_embedded Here is the letter Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli sent to Speaker Pelosi:March 17, 2010 SEE LINK BELOW SOURCE: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=33755 Even the Left is Opposed to the Bill Posted by Matt Holdridge on 03/20/10 12:54 PM From the DailyCaller: http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/19/ha...althcare-bill/ Jane Hamsher of the liberal blog firedoglake remains unenthused about the Democrats’ healthcare bill: Quote:
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#9 |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Heh......Nice work Peaceandlove....
Exactly..........Too many variables disguised as uncarrying Americans. Not Fair.. ![]() |
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