Goodbye Avalon

[FoxForceFive]

I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by FoxForceFive

I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.

As I said before, although I am contactee, I dont consider myself new age at all. If anything, my experinces have made me MORE nuts & bolts. The quote in bold is very important I feel. It must be balanced. Already, there are far too many members posting things as facts when infact its just some random youtube guy or whatever. We NEED the nuts & bolts people to stay & I fear many will now leave because of the shake up.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

As I said before, although I am contactee, I dont consider myself new age at all. If anything, my experinces have made me MORE nuts & bolts. The quote in bold is very important I feel. It must be balanced. Already, there are far too many members posting things as facts when infact its just some random youtube guy or whatever. We NEED the nuts & bolts people to stay & I fear many will now leave because of the shake up.

I agree with you, way to many postings as fact when it's just a youtube special, and I think to many front page news items started in new threads, if I want front page news I'll go to the front page.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I started a thread for daily updates & articles in the economy section.
Hopefully it will prevent multiple threads apearing all over the place.
I asked for it to be pinned but it has not been. Its up to the mods to spread the word about threads like this if they want the forums to be well ordered & non-confusing.

[arcora]

I'm not so sure I like this new format either.

I very much appreciated the tangents that users went on. So much of this can be confusing - it was invaluable to me to read and post about issues that weren't necessarily the core focus of the forum. It helped me to see the bigger picture and understand others better.

All of my life I have found inspiration for Great Ideas while following tangents. Now I feel stifled.

[Captain Obvious]

Hi jaypierce2008,

I don't like the changes, but I think you're spot on. Good post.

[mkpetrov]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Hi jaypierce2008,

I don't like the changes, but I think you're spot on. Good post.

I think that this is exactly what are the changes/actions about.
"Is is that you hope by forcing your will on the rest of the forum you can change this into something that you 'like'?" - the changes are indeed about that, some people doesn`t want the forum like it is (Was, actually. And it was its natural state. Now is artifical) and want to force their will on the rest of the people.

[mikey]

The negativity on the site now about the new forums is beyond me...we should all be grateful that Camelot and Avalon have come into our lives and we have found them. There are no coincidences. Therefore i suggest stop trying to whinge and complain how things were or should be and start positively engaging and exchanging in the now. If this place isnt for u...so be it..best of luck, love and peace to u but to continuously write thread after thread about how u know of people now confused on this site or how someone is now not returning cos its too ''moderated'' is not what this place is about and quite frankly disrespectful to Bill, Kerry and the workers on here.
There are plenty of other forums on the net to fill needs maybe this one cant for u...

No offense intended to anyone

peace

bananaman

[Mike_Jetson]

Its pointless complaining about the team selection until you see how they play

[Kate]

quote
I started a thread for daily updates & articles in the economy section.
Hopefully it will prevent multiple threads apearing all over the place.
I asked for it to be pinned but it has not been. Its up to the mods to spread the word about threads like this if they want the forums to be well ordered & non-confusing.
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Hiya Eyes, regarding the 'pinning' I do believe I got back to you via PM to explain what was happening...?? Everyone ( admin,mods,bill,kerry) have been working around the clock in order to get the new forum ready in time. Please, please can people display some patience here..? For a small handful of people to have achieved this change around in so little time ontop of family life/work/committments etc is incredible!!

I have just had a quick flick through this thread, and it appears to be 50/50 on how people are feeling with the changes. ( obviously, this was anticipated!)
Like ANY comminity, there will NEVER be 100% people who share the same views.

I can only say that the decision was NOT made lightly! I feel that the notice Bill/Kerry posted clarified their stance clearly.

I do hope that over a short time the members here who are not happy, will adjust to the new format and continue to contribute in the high level which was previously displayed.

This is the first opportunity for me to get online today, and view the new layout completely and catch up with postings....
look forward to the future weeks and months ahead as we grow/share in our lovely COMMUNITY!

best wishes to all
kate

i'm asking myself why i can't post anymore in the camelot forum section. i was discussing crop circles in that section and now i don't have the right anymore to reply to some posts. can this be changed please? no point in keeping the thread alive when people can't post anymore.

[Mark]

Bring back the ufo's - they are part of this reality also, aren't they - it's all relivant...The changes same to do with man/woman power - the mods, then the actually issues.

[Jacqui D]

I admit i have felt a little dispondent since the change of the forum, as was said before this forum has now become a chat on survival.
I realise how the state of the nations are right now and we should be looking towards making things more safe for ourselves and our famlies but i'm not sure all this re colonisation idea will even work,
An earlier thread i wrote touched on this, i said that the cycle of this survival agenda will focus on leaders second in commands and so on again, we will end up no better than we are today being in someone else's control.

I was under the impliction that this forum was for like minded people who are all having experiences of spiritual,psychic and et exposure.

If the site is going to be about survival only how much can one say

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

I was under the impliction that this forum was for like minded people who are all having experiences of spiritual,psychic and et exposure.

If the site is going to be about survival only how much can one say

The spiritual, psychic is also exceptionally valuable. Do you remote view so to communicate with someone else in another location? We used to teach folks how to do this and did it ourselves. It works. Do you use your psyhic intuition to tune into the weather, futher events, health of loved ones. These are also valuable skills. Take the initiative and start a few threads on which of these is of interest to you.

[RSF]

Originally Posted by Carol

The spiritual, psychic is also exceptionally valuable. Do you remote view so to communicate with someone else in another location? We used to teach folks how to do this and did it ourselves. It works. Do you use your psyhic intuition to tune into the weather, futher events, health of loved ones. These are also valuable skills. Take the initiative and start a few threads on which of these is of interest to you.

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Hi,
You used to teach people how to remote-view. I'd like to learn the basics of how that was done, Carol ?

Prior to this read I felt it was horse-shut but mayhap's there's more to remote viewing principles/reality than I had thought. Please elaborate?
Thank You,
RSF

[Carol]

There are several members on some of the other Avalon sub-forums who are already giving lessons.

Here is one member's link to his thead. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3921

If you do a search you should easily find the others.

I did learn this at University when studying transpersonal psychology and later taught it to my students in Jr. College. I think you will be both surprised and delighted as you move into this area of knowledge.

[Morphious]

i request this post be deleated :

[RSF]

looked up the post, Carol. Wish I could say I was impressed but mayhaps I should have, as you mentioned looked-up others.
Frankly, I don't understand this thread "Goo bye Avalon" ?

Gosh, don't some of these people already realize after reading PC just how important our proprietors are and their great insight and hard dedicated work done to spell out some really important stuff.
Look at what's come down upon the US economy, but I read about it months ago from interviews done on PC.

RSF

I'm whining -- yuk--yuk--yuk !

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by FoxForceFive

I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.

i agree with this. the fuzzy head in the clouds people are great and what have a positive atttitude im inot all the esoteric stuff and all the channeling alien stuff, i beleive it all. what most dont get is tho that the system is about to crash spectacularly!! hence (as far as i can gather ) this forum wa screated to get like minded people together to survive the coming chaos.

some people on here seem to think its a talking shop about chrystals, faries, trolls and aliens. if people are upset about not being able to talk about such things then yes fair enough they can "go " somehwere else.

i think people are failing to grasp the severity here. we are about to have no visible means of support. possible food interuptions, energy interuptions, boilogical war, nuclear war, total collpase of the monetary and banking system world wide.

i am not opposing meditation and sitting round in a room full of orgonite but we must be practical. i want to meet like minded survivalists who will indeed offer practical help and networking.

spirituality will not feed us physically, praying wont stop neutron radiation poisoning, or biochemical diseses ect.

we need to think practically first and use our spirituality to guide us, now i understand some will want to just sit it out and late fate decide their destiny. i am not one of them. i understand what kerry and bill are trying to do here, MANY OF YOU IT SEEMS DO NOT. you ownt always be sat there with access to the internet or have the freedom to have stuff on you would like to veiw.. the global fascist state is closing in on us and this site is an opportunity to get the ground crew together to possibly join up and help each other wherever we may be.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOME WALK IN THE PARK WHERE WE CAN CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO INSIDE THE CURRENT SYSTEM. WE MUST BE PREPARED AND READY TO GO IT ALONE. SITTING IN YOUR KITCHEN ON THE INTERNET AND DOING ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE BEFORE IS ALL ABOUT TO END.. DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

ty bill and kerry rant over keep the good work going .

[JohnWdoe]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

i agree with this. the fuzzy head in the clouds people are great and what have a positive atttitude im inot all the esoteric stuff and all the channeling alien stuff, i beleive it all. what most dont get is tho that the system is about to crash spectacularly!! hence (as far as i can gather ) this forum wa screated to get like minded people together to survive the coming chaos.

some people on here seem to think its a talking shop about chrystals, faries, trolls and aliens. if people are upset about not being able to talk about such things then yes fair enough they can "go " somehwere else.

i think people are failing to grasp the severity here. we are about to have no visible means of support. possible food interuptions, energy interuptions, boilogical war, nuclear war, total collpase of the monetary and banking system world wide.

i am not opposing meditation and sitting round in a room full of orgonite but we must be practical. i want to meet like minded survivalists who will indeed offer practical help and networking.

spirituality will not feed us physically, praying wont stop neutron radiation poisoning, or biochemical diseses ect.

we need to think practically first and use our spirituality to guide us, now i understand some will want to just sit it out and late fate decide their destiny. i am not one of them. i understand what kerry and bill are trying to do here, MANY OF YOU IT SEEMS DO NOT. you ownt always be sat there with access to the internet or have the freedom to have stuff on you would like to veiw.. the global fascist state is closing in on us and this site is an opportunity to get the ground crew together to possibly join up and help each other wherever we may be.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOME WALK IN THE PARK WHERE WE CAN CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO INSIDE THE CURRENT SYSTEM. WE MUST BE PREPARED AND READY TO GO IT ALONE. SITTING IN YOUR KITCHEN ON THE INTERNET AND DOING ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE BEFORE IS ALL ABOUT TO END.. DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

ty bill and kerry rant over keep the good work going .

The greatest lesson man can learn is to understand he is mortal.

*edit

I really do understand your words here well also looking at the concerns of others and realize words are just words. Action is something entirely of its own accord.

Many lightseekers feel the need to escape suffering to retreat to a place eluding pain, but still it exists and always will exist.
Our fear our hate is all to frighting to many - as is love but the course and action of surviving lyes not in any word but mans fear and love to be better.

What would life be without pain suffering and confusion? it simply would not be us... I respect and admire the courage to embrace the spirit but when mankind begins to forget who and what it is we lose all sense of reality.

Many people good heartedly have left reality in a pursuit of infinite wisdom and connection with a higher life force, this force preachs harmony and love well ignoring everything that is scary and ulitmately human... Some have called it evolution but i simply call it leaving mortality.

Mortality my friend... is the hardest open ended perception one can acquire, in our last breaths we acquire that essence of mortality as its our last sense to feel and be here and now, maybe then we humanity see its design and faultline.

Humans are Humans... We all are one yes... but we all die.

Sorry for my Philosophical ramble but its a concept man can only wish to master - himself - Philosophy.

I heard you but please dont shout, I get enough of that from the man of the house - I am a firm believer in when your time is up your time is up And, if something happens that I see someone who is in terrible pain I have that covered too - including my family. I will have no hesitation in helping them pass over as quickly as possible rather than see them suffering if I cannot help them in any way. I do live in the hills, but if things get dire I will have no hesitation in taking that step off fast and helping others if they want to - I don't believe in religious dogma judgment.

[PodWORLD]

Maybe the social groups section is somewhere for crop circle groups and ufo groups etc.

I was on last night and it was kinda spooky. Large gaps between posts etc.

The thing is I didnt start watching camelot to survive. I watched to learn.
It would be pointless for me to pretend I'm a hunter gatherer preparing for
some Armageddon.

I want to find out more about UFO's, Ancient texts and other subjects.

I love the forum and I had no problem with it as I don't need to read every post or thread but the problem wasn't the threads it was the people constantly pming mods and B&K about it wasn't it?

I look forward to the Camelot section being reopened and I concur that
great thanks be extended to Bill and Kerry and all the mods for their hard
work and efforts.

I'm happy to be patient.

[mikey]

Originally Posted by FoxForceFive

I'm not a feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' new ager. I'm here for the nuts and bolts. I want to know what's going on, why is it going on, how can we prepare and what is going to happen. I'm also keenly interested in the ET side of the equation. I hope Avalon can still be a place I can come and feel welcome to participate. Many of us came here through the excellent testimonies brought to Camelot, hopefully the 'fact-finders' in our forum membership won't be squeezed out.

Surely we must understand the reason for the obvious increase in our recognition of the feel-good warm fuzzy 'love and light' people and that side of things. Surely it is far more complex and innately simple than that.
Everything is integrated and working on different consciousnessly vibrational levels...everything is, and this is scientifically evident.
Light and love increase these vibrations and affect our reality and how we live and respectively what is happening and how we understand what is happening.
Our blue pearl's frequency is increasing and effecting our views on what the nuts and bolts are...why theyre there...and more importantly why are they attached to bigger nuts and bigger bolts...and whay are they attached..etc..Infinity in a finite space (Nassim Haramein)

this may just be my fuzzy feel-good side

I do understand the frustration of the new forum layout and restrictions but i think that focussing on the forum that is is more beneficial than what it isnt...

"He who knows others is learned; he who knows himself is wise."
Lao-Tsze


no offense intended to anyone
peace

bananaman