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[beren]

I think that Jesus is the standard of Creator. Only begotten son.
He is only acceptable shape or presence or spirit or energy acceptable to Creator.

He is the one who fully embody spiritual value of Creator and man image.

P.S.

Greybeard ,any non alcoholic beer you will got!

I strongly believe that Creator loves us such that we can not comprehend it yet.
He loves us as no one ever will.

And there fore I surrender my will to his. I wish to learn from Almighty himself. Before him I know nothing and wish to be led by him forever.
Wish that his spirit fully embody me and help to show my unique persona that I have from time I was created.

[THE eXchanger]

have you ever had an actual visit from god ?

or, how do you feel his/her prescence around you ?

he/she is, all that is ?

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

have you ever had an actual visit from god ?

or, how do you feel his/her prescence around you ?

he/she is, all that is ?

Your questions are good Susan.
I can only answer for me.
I have felt a presence I call God for want of a better name.
Sometimes it comes when meditating sometimes unasked and surprises me.

It might be a slight sensation like a breeze brushing my forehead, or a strong pulling at the third eye. It may be that I am siting minding my own business and this overwhelming feeling of being loved arises, I start to smile involuntary, a stupid kind of grin, some time tears of joy just trickle down my face.

Think God is beyond male/female, or any human concept, just the totality all of it on going creating and creation.
I dont think for one moment that a God of love, as spoken of by every mystic since time can be remembered began, can be held responsible for the suffering of human beings.
Free will just got out of control through the human ego (EDGE GOD OUT) and is the sole perpetrator.
That may be aided and abetted by the lower astral who deny the sovereignty of God.

I believe the teachings of Jesus and those before him also.

So thats my take, right or wrong who knows, I dont.

Chris

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Your questions are good Susan.
I can only answer for me.
I have felt a presence I call God for want of a better name.
Sometimes it comes when meditating sometimes unasked and surprises me.

It might be a slight sensation like a breeze brushing my forehead, or a strong pulling at the third eye. It may be that I am siting minding my own business and this overwhelming feeling of being loved arises, I start to smile involuntary, a stupid kind of grin, some time tears of joy just trickle down my face.

Think God is beyond male/female, or any human concept, just the totality all of it on going creating and creation.
I dont think for one moment that a God of love, as spoken of by every mystic since time can be remembered began, can be held responsible for the suffering of human beings.
Free will just got out of control through the human ego (EDGE GOD OUT) and is the sole perpetrator.
That may be aided and abetted by the lower astral who deny the sovereignty of God.

I believe the teachings of Jesus and those before him also.

So thats my take, right or wrong who knows, I dont.

Chris

Thanks Chris, we enjoyed your comments
i-goD , and, e-God - internal / and, eXternal
or links back to the source of all creation
kind of like,
the big picture of
a unified/and, united father/and, mother type of divine energy

once, we remember, a source,
it kept telling us, to slow down

we kept passing thru, an ensuite bathroom off a master bedroom
and, as, we went thru the bathroom, we've keep hearing
slow down, sit down, we want to talk to you

finally; we stopped;
looked around, knew we've heard a voice
and, as we looked around
the only place to sit, was the toilet
or, THE THRONE SEAT, as, some people call it,
in their houses

we laughed, as, we sat down on it,
thinking, this is totally hillarious,
however, whatever it was,
we felt these energies,
that started to came all around us,
we asked if the energies, were in 100% alignment
and, they grew even stronger,
and, it was like getting a hug from all the cosmos
we felt like we entered this
complete/and, total state of bliss
(similiar to what mudra, has described)
anyway-there were NO words,
but, there sure was a feeling,
and, a wind, in the air,
it certainly, did NOT needs words
it was totally present, unlike, anything we'd ever interacted with
there was something,
there was something, really big & expansive in the air
it was real, and, surreal,
it seemed like everything was there,
at once...
we uttered "good god" about three time

thus, the phrase "good god"
as, that is, what we said, at that,
particular time ~ three times

we don't remember, what occurred next,
however, we do know, we sat there in this amasing energy,
for approx. 1 hr.

at the time, we were likely very close to running ourselves,
on a path of 18 hrs days, and, NOT stopping to just connect,
with THE ALL in ALL ~ yet, THE THRONE SEAT,
perhaps, a great place, to stop, a few times per day,
and, really feel a sense of gratitude / and, joy
for all that truly is

[THE eXchanger]

kind of makes you wonder...
is this what occurs,
when they take you home ???

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

kind of makes you wonder...
is this what occurs,
when they take you home ???

Sounds like you are home Susan honey.
I dont call everyone honey but respect what you do

I was at a Kundalin meditation weekend and heard this voice in my head, not mine,
it said.
"Welcome Home."

I shared the experience and got sent out in the pouring rain to get grounded.

Bit like here.

Humor humor humor.

Chris
Namaste

[Stardustaquarion]

Susan only yourself will take you home

Source has no sexual definition it just IS beyond duality, beyond living ligh, beyond living sound and beyond, beyond, beyond

And Source is inside the very fabric of the cosmos, even in those that have fallen for everything is inside source

Every atom IS source
Every quark IS source
Every partiki IS source

We are all expressions of source, we are ALL SOURCE what we see and experience is just the morphogenetic field created of Source

It is such an incredibly intelligent self regulating creation!

Love you all

[truthseekerdan]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Susan only yourself will take you home

Source has no sexual definition it just IS beyond duality, beyond living ligh, beyond living sound and beyond, beyond, beyond

And Source is inside the very fabric of the cosmos, even in those that have fallen for everything is inside source

Every atom IS source
Every quark IS source
Every partiki IS source

We are all expressions of source, we are ALL SOURCE what we see and experience is just the morphogenetic field created of Source

It is such an incredibly intelligent self regulating creation!

Love you all

Stardustaquarion, you said it pretty much as it IS.
Everything (the creation), is/are fragments of the Source yet it mirrors the Source as a whole.
Or put it this way: Everything is/are drops of water from the same infinite ocean we call Source (Creator God).

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Susan only yourself will take you home

Source has no sexual definition it just IS beyond duality, beyond living ligh, beyond living sound and beyond, beyond, beyond

And Source is inside the very fabric of the cosmos, even in those that have fallen for everything is inside source

Every atom IS source
Every quark IS source
Every partiki IS source

We are all expressions of source, we are ALL SOURCE what we see and experience is just the morphogenetic field created of Source

It is such an incredibly intelligent self regulating creation!

Love you all

That is exactly what my mentor Dr Hawkins is saying apart from one additional word. LOVE.
(Science is proving the existence of God)

Dr Hawkins stresses Devotion only due to God - respect all others.

One teacher I had said.
"No one belongs to you
You belong to no one except God."

Another said to a woman who was none to pleased.
Children come through you but they belong to God.
We are just caretakers, hopefully we really do care.

We are but passing through, just a moment in time then we are gone.
The only relationship that is vitally important is the one we have with our Creator, that is eternal yet that is the relationship we tend to forget.
Everything we have to have to survive in this world comes from one source.
Beren said it.
Star said it in a different way but it the same.

Time to remember to be grateful and to know exactly to What we owe gratitude to.

My son Michael said to me and his mother when we started divorce proceedings.

"Think you two have lost the plot"
Thankfully all worked out for the best.
Think the human race is about to find the plot.
I sincerely hope so

Gloria in Excelcis Deo.
Glory to God in the Highest.

Chris
Namaste

[THE eXchanger]

very wise words greybeard, and, very good thread beren,
thank you for starting this one

[chitty]

Dude You're here for the ride Hang on and go with the flow. We will all evolve, one way or the other. Think of the Tides man. EBB AND FLOW.

[Moxie]

It has to be that Jesus also felt all human emotions... despondency ... anguish ... despair, contempt. Where did I read it that "all honest emotions are healthy", it's what you do with them.

Even when we experience these emotions and share them, it does not seem the right thing to do to explain or shame them away or invalidate them.

victim... ego... it's wounding the wounded.
Beren has not shown that he is a shallow soul, unable to ride through, above or beyond emotions. He felt safe enough to share his humanity.

Are you so removed from your humanity that you disallow certain emotions from passing through, that you do not acknowledge the degrees of inward weather we can experience just as we see outwardly?

We call it success, we name it enlightened when we are able to always arise above these so called negative emotions and call ourselves as having failed when we experience them. Sometimes it feels like carrying the burden of the world when we feel suffering... might we carry a bit of Beren's burden of the load for transmutation?

The good news for me today is that after a whole day yesterday, having looked into the questions and expressions of those wanting to know and make right what appears to be a division, appeared as attacks, people leaving.... I find that today I now see that B & K are carving out new frontiers, making ever widening roads, reaching ever enlarging audience. While it's true and obvious that they (as we all do if we are honest) fell into the captivity of emotional struggle to an extent they expressed themselves publicly in sometimes scathing words, would, I'm sure, have preferred not to , they did....

but with only a slight shift of mindedness, will, as it did with me, it's now Obvious that something much larger needs to come into View, even at the expense of all the struggles & resistance that was and is being displayed... regardless of how you try to buck it, it's coming much larger with much greater strength of purpose.

Whew, is all I can say!
Much love to All.

[kriya]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

have you ever had an actual visit from god ?

or, how do you feel his/her prescence around you ?

he/she is, all that is ?

I have felt great peace, intense joy, much humour, and immense love. From Within.

Love,

Kriya