Fear Mongering. Get off it.

[greybeard]

Im in total agreement with you Star.
Its not more free speech we need its freedom from speech as in speeching.
Freedom of speech brings responsibilities.
Politically correct has a lot to answer for, but thats another complex subject.
One mans ceiling another mans floor.
Its a question of the level one is at, ones own personal reality.
Anger for example is more positive than apathy.
ans so on up till there is an acceptance that what is, is.
That is not helpful to some one in apathy.
In psychiatry there is such a scale.
When a person is apathetic, they are not suicidal, they dont care enough to be suicidal.
When they move beyond apathy they, the patient, are watched closely, because they may go suicidal, till they get to anger, and then helped beyond that.

Different strokes for different folks.

the prayer that AA uses is.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
The courage to change the things I can.
Wisdom to know the difference.

With respect for all points of view, as they reflect where the person is at this moment and is therefore valid, at least to them.
Chris

[Céline]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Im in total agreement with you Star.
Its not more free speech we need its freedom from speech as in speeching.
Freedom of speech brings responsibilities.
Politically correct has a lot to answer for, but thats another complex subject.
One mans ceiling another mans floor.
Its a question of the level one is at, ones own personal reality.
Anger for example is more positive than apathy.
ans so on up till there is an acceptance that what is, is.
That is not helpful to some one in apathy.
In psychiatry there is such a scale.
When a person is apathetic, they are not suicidal, they dont care enough to be suicidal.
When they move beyond apathy they, the patient, are watched closely, because they may go suicidal, till they get to anger, and then helped beyond that.

Different strokes for different folks.

the prayer that AA uses is.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
The courage to change the things I can.
Wisdom to know the difference.

With respect for all points of view, as they reflect where the person is at this moment and is therefore valid, at least to them.
Chris

Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.

Mahatma Gandhi


and perhaps be forgiven for them

[Stardustaquarion]

Celine

We all make mistakes, the harderst thing is to forgive ourselves

The greatest gift one can give to oneself is to love oneself as one is now, no quible, no judgement, no expectations

The expectations we have about ourselves are mostly given to us by our parents and society and there is a time to chose what we keep and what we leave behind

That does not mean that one does not endeavor to align with the laws of the universe only that there is no point on looking back with regret

Love

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Céline

Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.

Mahatma Gandhi


and perhaps be forgiven for them

Agree Celine but Id rather learn from others mistakes. I dont have to make all of them myself.

I forgive me, if I cant forgive my actions I cant really forgive others.
Its very easy to be critcal of ones own,my actions in retrospect but if I had been aware of the consequences I would have acted differently. I did the best I could at the time.
Im sure we all do.

With Love
Chris

[wynderer]

Hi Greybeard -- would you consider this music video to be fearmongering?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[greybeard]

[QUOTE=wynderer;255316]Hi Greybeard -- would you consider this music video to be fearmongering?

Nope I wouldn't great band.
The thread is only in relationship to this forum.
Im all for truth, its when something is presented as though it is true and it is only an assumption.
Pasted the words of the song below.

Regards Chris

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
The transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs
Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
We will never see the truth around
(So come on!)

Another promise, another scene, another
A package not to keep us trapped in greed
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on!)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
Flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
We should never be afraid to die
(So come on!)

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!

[wynderer]

thanks for posting the lyrics -- would like to add a correction --in verse 2 -- it's 'another packaged lie to keep us...' [sorry -- i did editorial proofreading for 5 yrs , & it's a habit]

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by wynderer

thanks for posting the lyrics -- would like to add a correction --in verse 2 -- it's 'another packaged lie to keep us...' [sorry -- i did editorial proofreading for 5 yrs , & it's a habit]

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

Yes I wondered I just pasted unaltered.
When you come across unedited proof on the forum. Clap your hands loudly. I want to hear it wynderer.

Sorry sorry my Scorpio humor got the better of me.
It would be a dull world with out idiots like me. I see the funny side of virtually everything.
An Eckhart quote. "Dont take your thoughts too seriously" Im trying honestly.

Chris