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it wouldn't just be telling people at work, it would be A PUBLIC RECORD everyone would know,if they wished to research it if it is NOT the real truth, why on earth, should someone be able to accuse another of such awful things, and, then, be allowed to just disappear, and, to just fade into the background, that does NOT sound like 'full disclosure' or 'truth' to me it could be sad, that, people who act this way, don't need to be thrown to the dogs, they are 'the dogs' discovery of truth, and, the ownership of ones actions, does have consequences, it kind of puts a spin on the phrase deal in truth, or, face the consequences !!! THESE ARE PUBLIC POSTING BOARDS love is the end result, certainly, compassion is a part of truth frankly, speaking, we would NOT feel a great deal of compassion for someone who knowingly, passed about lies, about us, as, that wastes, a great deal of time, for, if they, simply dealt in the truth, to begin with, NONE of THIS, would have transpired, NOW WOULD IT !!! the best lessons in life, are always the toughtest ones the divine male/and, divine female - are both already inside of us it isn't necessary, to go to others, to mine for your own answers search within, you already have the answers, and, you do NOT need anyone else, to give you 'the answers' personally, we feel, it is best, for all of us, to likely disattach, from all others, and, find our selves !!! For there, deep within, there will be, many answers !!! You are all heading, into a place, that is way beyond this 3D world your own higher self, essence, and, monad, is there, to help you/and, to lead the way the real answers, will come, when you are ready, your self/thru your selves to hear them, there is NO other way !!! |
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03-09-2010, 03:53 PM
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Laws protect victims if they so choose to remain anonymous... Are you saying that law is unfair ? |
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03-09-2010, 04:01 PM
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when it is NOT the full/or real truth should it NOT be public record - on the accuser ??? aren't we here, to deal in "truth" ??? |
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03-09-2010, 04:02 PM
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The Nature of Sexual Harassment
[Excerpted from Chapter 1 of the Ontario Women's Directorate's Employer's Guide: A Time for Action on Secual Harassment in the Workplace. (Toronto, ON: Ontario Women's Directorate, 1993) To order, see Publications] A hostile or offensive workplace for women 'is created by repeated subtle, yet, unwelcome harassing behaviour. This is sometimes called the "poisoned'' work environment. Sexual harassment is a pervasive workplace problem. It permeates both large and small workplaces in Ontario, and affects all employment sectors. In Canada, the first national survey showed that 49% of women in the workforce have experienced at least one type of unwanted sexual attention.(1) The Ontario Human Rights Code states that "harassment means engaging in a course of vexatious comment or conduct that is known or ought reasonably to be known to be unwelcome."(2) Examples of sexual harassment include unwelcome leering or suggestive looks, sexual remarks, teasing or insults, subtle or crude sexual hints and pressures, and unwanted physical or sexual contact. Sometimes sexual harassment is obvious. Overt harassment includes threats (a poor performance appraisal, or preventing a training opportunity) for failing to comply with the harasser's sexual solicitations or advances. It can take the form of suggestions of workrelated rewards (a good performance appraisal, or consideration of promotion) for complying with those demands. But it has been estimated that overt harassment makes up only 5% of workplace sexual harassment problems. Most often, the problem is more subtle. A hostile or offensive workplace for women is created by repeated subtle, yet, unwelcome harassing behaviour. This is sometimes called the "poisoned" work environment.(3) Sexual harassment generally takes place in the worksite in the office, factory or on work property but can also take place in other locations, such as at meetings or conferences away from the regular workplace, while employees are travelling on workrelated business, or at office parties and informal gatherings. Employers are obligated to address harassment in any work-related environment. An abuse of power Sexual harassment is an abuse of power in working relationships. It was first defined as "unsolicited nonreciprocal male behavior that asserts a woman's sex role over her function as worker. It can be any or all of the following: staring at, commenting upon, or touching a woman's body; requests for acquiescence in sexual behavior; repeated nonreciprocated propositions for dates; demands for sexual intercourse; and rape; ... an act of aggression at any stage of its expression, and ... contributes to the ultimate goal of keeping women subordinate at work".(4) Research shows that the vast majority of workers who are sexually harassed are women, and that the vast majority of harassers are men.(5) The harasser can be an employee, employer, supervisor, coworker or customer. Sexual harassment is a form of sexual discrimination. Often, its presence signals a gender-based abuse of power in the workplace. Studies have also shown that some women are particularly vulnerable to multiple forms of harassment. Aboriginal women, women of colour, and women in religious minorities may be subjected to combined racial, religious and sexual harassment in the workplace. Women with disabilities are also at risk for multiple workplace harassment. Women are also more subject to other forms of harassment related to their age, family and marital status. In work situations, genderbased abuse of power intertwines with other forms of power abuse. It is important to remember that employers are obligated to prevent all kinds of harassment in the workplace. Sexual harassment is part of a continuum of violence against women. It is an attack on a person's self-esteem, integrity, personal security and economic well being. Whether violence takes place in the home, on the street, or in the workplace, the problem needs to be addressed seriously. Those who argue against solving these problems use the same arguments to deny that the problems exist, try to blame women for these problems and sometimes even suggest that accusations are false. Statements such as, "Look how she was dressed, she was asking for it," exemplify arguments which blame the victim. In fact, incidents of sexual harassment and sexual assault are generally underreported. Like other forms of violence against women, sexual harassment in the workplace hurts, destroys and costs. But while the problem is pervasive and costly, it can be stopped. It is the employer's responsibility to free the workplace from this form of violence against women. It is in the employer's interest to ensure a healthy working environment for all employees. Differing perceptions Different people have different reactions when they first think about sexual harassment in the workplace. Those reactions can be influenced by whether you are a woman or a man, an employer or an employee, and many other factors. But different people do have different perceptions. That is why, when preventive actions are developed in an organization, these points should be kept in mind: * employers often perceive their risks differently than do judges; * human resource personnel may perceive lower risks than workers; * men may perceive low or no risk even while women in the same workplace are being sexually harassed; * men and women tend to underrate the additional risk faced by women and men who are aboriginal, of colour, or persons with disabilities. Some people claim that it is impossible to tell the difference between sexual harassment and flattery, or sexual harassment and romance. But the differences are not really mysterious. Women (and men) who mutually welcome the interactions do not wish they would may stay away from work to avoid stop. Women (and men) who are harassed want it to stop. Does this mean that sexual harassment is just a matter of opinion? No. While opinions about harassment are shaped by different life experiences, we can develop some common understandings. Sexual harassment is unwelcome sexual attention in the workplace. Employers are obligated to take action to prevent sexual harassment in their workplace. It is to the employer's advantage to learn more about what sexual harassment costs and to take necessary actions to avoid these costs. Sexual harassment costs Experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace is traumatic for victims. Their economic wellbeing is threatened and harmed. This has a serious impact not only on the employee, but also on her family. As well as causing economic hardship, sexual harassment creates severe workrelated stress. It becomes difficult for the employee to concentrate on her work or to complete work tasks efficiently. Often, she suffers increasing mental anguish, selfdoubt and depression as her selfesteem as a productive worker is attacked. The psychological and physical health toll is high. An employee who is harassed may stay away from work to avoid the stress, and chronic stress related illnesses frequently result from workplace sexual harassment. Many victims reluctantly quit their jobs when the employer' takes no effective action. The immediate costs to employers, such as, decreased efficiency, loss of productivity, high absenteeism, and disruptions from frequent and longerterm sick leaves all harm the employer. The organization must spend unneccessary money for avoidable problems. Profits are weakened by higher costs for employee benefits, by high workforce turnover, by the loss of trained and effective workers, and by the resulting increase in human resource costs. Obtaining legal counsel for the resolution of formal complaints or human rights commission investigations can add even greater costs as can any legal orders brought against the employer for failure to take appropriate actions. Doing nothing can be the most expensive option for everyone concerned. Employer actions that are too little, too late, harm the complainant, the alleged harasser, and the organization's bottom line. Preventing sexual harassment is not just the right thing to do. It is also the employer's legal responsibility and makes good business sense. Notes 1 Canadian Human Rights Commission. Unwanted Sexual Attention and Sexual Harassment: Results of A Survey of Canadians. Ottawa: Minister of Supply and Services Canada, 1983 (page 5). 2 Ontario Human Rights Code, 1981, Section 9 (f). 3 Louise Fitzgerald's New York Times article, cited in "The Nature of the Beast" by Anita Hill. Ms., JanuaryFebruary 1992, Volume 11, Number 4 (page 33). 4 Lyn Farley, Sexual Shakedown: The Sexual Harassment of Women on the Job. New York: McGrawHill, 1978. 5 Canadian Human Rights Commission. Harassment Casebook: Summaries of Selected Harassment Cases. Ottawa: Minister of Supply and Services Canada, 1991. See also the Ontario and Canadian Human Rights Commissions'Annual Reports.A |
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03-09-2010, 04:15 PM
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Not wishing to butt in here.. but I will.
If the accused is guilty... hang them out to dry. If the accusers were stiching the accused up then hang them out to dry. However if the accusers were truthfull then they should have the right to annonymity should they so wish. That's my take anyway. The difference in this scenario though is the 'court' is not open and public. There is no jury of '12 good men/women' so this, I think, is where some of the distrust and frustration is coming in. The public cannot view the proceedings because we are not mods. So, given the nature of the case and the way forums are run, we have to wait and see what info we get from the 'closed' court and trust the fact that the mods are good people and will do what is right for those involved. That's how I see things anyway. 93 93/93 Love is the Law, Love under Wiill |
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03-09-2010, 04:18 PM
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And this thread...this battle is a PRIME example why women do NOT come out and do something about it...and why the laws are there to PROTECT these any women who wish to come forth... i am dumbfounded why some cant see that 1 mistake + i mistake does NOT equate Growth... |
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03-09-2010, 04:25 PM
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03-09-2010, 04:26 PM
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Some laws are laughably stupid. anonymous accusation is one of them. Is that even a law in the jurisdiction where Avalon falls? I"ve noticed you quote Canadian references. |
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03-09-2010, 04:30 PM
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If that is the thruth then it is an argument for the COURT ..not for us. |
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03-09-2010, 04:26 PM
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Granted men are not sexually harassed nearly as much nor as vilely but I would stand by that for us too. If I accused a woman of sexual harassment just to get her into trouble and it was proved I lied in court, I wouldn't expect any protection from the press as I stepped out of court and into the wagon taking me to prison. I hope I made myself clear there as I had no intention of defending the idea that the accusers should be exposed if the accusations were truthful. 93 93/93 Love is the Law, Love under Will |
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03-09-2010, 06:23 PM
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and, the accusations were false ~ in our opinion, they should be eXposed pa/pc is about the search for true, real truth !!! love is the law, and, this type of action, under the will of a few affected many, and, with that said, the truth, is the truth, and, it is, already well known perhaps - it might stop a few others, from doing these types of hateful, malicious, and, spiteful things if it, was your own good name, you could NOT defend, how would you feel ??? there is much power, in the mode of silence and, the other accusations that he attacked others, are, false you are the captain, of your 'own' ship and, it is, by a poor choices of alignments/and, allowances this situation/or, the other situations turn into what they did there are big risks, in the search for truth however, the biggest truth, is always the same it is your choice-to be truth, and, to eXpress truth and, if you can NOT do that, you are NOT in integrity intregrity - is the most important virtue you have the worst karma you can gather ~ is saying something you know is false, in order, to protect, your own behind and, trying to make someone else, take your guilt !!! people might remember you for what you have done, however, people will always remember you, for the way, in which, you made them feel we don't think anyone would enjoy standing in the shoes of tony/A being innocent, and, having it publically shouted from the rooftops that he did something awful/horrific/or shameful and, then have a whole pile more people add, false logs, to the same fire YOU are always able to make your own choices and, if you are NOT you had better very carefully eXamine the state of your own affairs, before you start a process, of blending your energies/your own divine rights and, your sacredness, with any others if you are NOT 100% sure, it is in total alignment with you, all of you It is pitiful, and, also shameful, that many people made choices to toss 'false' logs on the fire also too, the size of any man/or any woman is the size, of the thing, it takes, to get their goat an 'ego' in the 'negative' pole is a very 'sorry' thing perhaps, it might be best, to look at how we view how we aid/assist/and, help our real brothers/and, real sisters at this time full disclosure, is, what PA/PC stands for you can NOT go around, accusing people falsely, and, think, that it is NOT you, who should be on 'the hook' you-should be eXposed just to see, how it might feel falsely accused, is NOT the issue falsely accusing iS !!! iT iS a time, for truth, real truth !!! |
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03-09-2010, 06:39 PM
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03-09-2010, 06:48 PM
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Celine--
NO, dear sister, i AM NOT saying that those of us "in tune" with Abraxas have been the only ones disrespected. Mean words and accusations have flown on this thread AND on the original Q&A thread as well -- ugliness and unlovingness came from BOTH sides ..... i totally agree with you. And for any of the times i may have inadvertently hurt yours or anyone else's feelings, I do hereby apologize to you. i haven't felt that was ever my intention, but i DO admit to feeling defensive for myself at times during this "crisis," so perhaps i was "mean" without recognizing it in myself. If so, as i said, i am sincerely sorry. eXchanger-- Thank you for all your wise and light-filled words. you are so DEPENDABLE always to "bring-us-back-'round!" /Rocky Shorz-- I really appreciate the compliment on my "complimentary close." LOL i have to admit ..... i AM proud of being an old hippie! Mudra-- Thank you, as always, for your loveliness and your God-given talent for gifting us with words of peace, love and harmony. And your words, in combination with those of Kahil Gibran today, simply healed my distress and made my spirit soar! To each of you and ALL my sisters and brothers here -- SHALOM. love, hippihill |
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03-09-2010, 06:55 PM
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in 5 minutes time - this could be fun
let's get into the flow - with ourselves/and, with others at the top of the hour, 2pm est and/or in the archieves, after 4;05 pm est this might be good for many of us March 9, 2010 at 11am pst - Join us on News for the Soul with author Lauren Benatar as we explorer what 'being in the flow' really means. How do we dismantle and step beyond conditioning and mass-consciousness belief systems and really move from feeling stuck and filled with self-doubt to inner peace and joy. We'll cover the importance of self-worth, self-trust and the need to finally be done with emotional blockages. We'll also talk about letting go of the need to control life, and letting go of your attachment to your identity, so that your True Self can emerge. In this natural state of balance you attract the relationships, work and abundance that reflect your wholeness and not your lack. www.allthatyouare.co.za http://www.blogtalkradio.com/soulnew...source=remail& |
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03-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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important to hold fast,
your force, and, your power and, NOT unselectively share it, with others, you do NOT really know more times, than NOT it is curiousity, that kills the cat more times, than NOT it is the accusor, who solicits, the one who stands accused all was done, in this senario, as consulting/and, curious adults, on their own time, and, within their own space and, NOT even here, on PA/PC quite frankly, there are a lot of men who are making it, their business, here on PA/PC to put themselves out there, as, big spiritaulists, and, think they can act like super-man when the truth is, many of them, really do NOT know their whole asses, from holes in the ground, and, believe, it is, their job to protect, a lot of women from 'blue dragons', black/red/and, white orbs/and, serpents etc., and, who believe, they can actually do these healings on others, without the permission, from that persons higher self/essence/and, monad WHICH is NOT a truth WITHOUT permission from someone elses higher team you can do NO work ~ you are simply kidding yourself about, what the truth, of your powers actually really are People need to learn, to handle their own complex aspects and, quite frankly, without their own higher self/essence/and, monad in agreement - there is NOT anyone, who can do this type of work time to learn, to go within, and, discover your own true magnificence and, own it !!! Time to quit blaming others, for your own short-comings and, step into the truth, of all that you truly are !!! Turn inward, it is all there !!! melding/and, blending with others, in a 3D sense is, just is NOT the right road !!! at least not until you are in full command/and, full demand of all you 13 aspects; along with your 7 energetic eXpressions, then, and, only then, can you do YOUR OWN WILL !!! and, YOUR OWN WILL, is THE WAY |
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03-09-2010, 04:37 PM
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the real topic here is this:
OWNED and, OWING YOUR OWN FORCE/AND, YOUR OWN POWER FIRST AND FOREMOST !!! BEFORE, making any choices be who you really are - and, do that eloquently  there are NO errors; or, NO mistakes there just is, what there is bad judgements |
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a good eXample of a good male spiritualist here on project avalon/and, camelot
is tone3jag / brad he is one, who does know, what end is UP !!! |
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a good eXample of a good realist, who is a spirit - is Bill
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and, Kerry is a good eXample of a spiritualist
every here, should develop their own spirit, as, best they can it goes with you, from this life cycle to the neXt life cycle |
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the divine masculine/and, the divine feminine
is within each and everyone of us and, it does have a place where its rubber hits the road it's called the unified/and, the united force/and, power of both work to developing that, as, much as possible and, then, and, only then - will you be, the original spark, you truly, intended yourself to be |
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start frying the 'real' fish
maybe, it takes something like this, to really shake up people and, get their 'real' truths falling 'out' of them spend your time doing things, that will enrich this world, and, focus your intent, on the changes you want to see happen and, manifest that drudging over the past, if that is all you do, isn't going to change the NOW/which leads into the future ask/ask/ask for your missions/purposes/and, tasks if you learn to listen, you will hear them direct from your own source of your higher self/essence and monad |
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03-09-2010, 06:31 PM
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I generally take the silence to mean either there is no 'correct' answer or I am to do nothing. ie. sit and wait, watch and learn. 93 93/93 Love is the Law, Love under Will |
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higher self / essence / and, monad connection iS eXactly that the bliss, of the silence ~ of all that iS where words, NEED not be said you are very connected, in those times that is the first of one of many steps/and, that will lead you down a road, to true discovery of yourself someone can NOT show you, anyone, than someone can NOT do it for you, they can attempt, their best to start a process to describe it to you, all roads, might NOT be the same for each, and, everyone there are 101 roads up the mountain-or, into the valley of whatever, it iS that you do, to create your own 'safe' space and, then, eXpand out of there the options to you, are ever eXpanding we are all inter dimensional, and, multi dimensional and, density beings, this world is full of people, with many answers you can try them on, and, take what fits then simply, discard the rest YOU ALREADY KNOW within the 'length,width, and, depth' of yourself all the secrets - just ask/ask/ask, for them to be revealed to you will it to be, so, it will be, and, so it is |
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I think the biggest lesson I have learnt over the last 10 years or so is patience. Things will occur when I'm ready and not before. In the past I have often wondered if I'm 'doing it right' and got impatient, and sure enough, the impatience breaks any connection. I know the method that works for me now and sit patiently and see what occurs. With city life the silence is most welcome at times. |
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