Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[ellie]

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by ellie

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

Well part of his condition is in what he was taught anyone that takes their own soul is condemned.

When he opened himself up and said take me to my daughter he was convinced he knew where to find her...

The truth is there are many factors behind why someone took their life...

and he was looking the wrong direction for his little angel...

[ellie]

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

[bigmo]

Originally Posted by ellie

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

That is such a sweet thought ellie with such kind intent!

Peace and Love to you ellie

[Steven]

Originally Posted by ellie

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

Totally true. A myth... I can write pages about it. The only judge is yourself, even Creator/Creation itself will not judge you, if so, then no other being can do so other than you. The sad part of this myth is that it is well rooted into our consciousness.

Namaste, Steven

[orthodoxymoron]

After reading nearly 20 pages of ranting and raving (some of it is mine)...I have absolutely no doubt as to why Earth is under quarantine.

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

After reading nearly 20 pages of ranting and raving (some of it is mine)...I have absolutely no doubt as to why Earth is under quarantine.

hahahahaaa... thanks ODM

[beren]

Originally Posted by ellie

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

Yes, but since he got free will , he must ask for help in the first place.
Like Rocky said it.

To sum it up, it is Creator's wish that everyone be saved and enlightened.
But he also gave us free will and along with that consequences of our wishes and deeds.

No one can ask for help from Almighty unless he humbles him/herself before him.
If someone does not realize that, well Creator will allow according to the wish of the person. Or by the acts of their ego and pride.
If someones is too proud to see that we are CREATED and not omnipotent, well that is theirs problem.

And for the record here for some ,
I do not speak for any religion or any cult or any organization.
I stand behind my words and deeds.

The only thing that I speak of is the truth,Heavenly father and Jesus Christ.
If someone has a problem with that,it is just that-their problem.

I do not channel information, I do not have mentors, I do not quote various human sources (though many are valid),I do not interpret dreams not do I have visions like some claim here.

Everything I need comes from the source of the life itself and all knowledge, love and truth,wisdom and power-The Almighty Creator of the universe. His only begotten son is my king -Jesus Christ.

Again if anyone has a problem with that, it is their problem.
I do not judge anyone or curse anyone,it is not in my power to do so.
I can only show the truth if asked or confronted. I can love and am doing so. I will fight deception tooth and nail because it stands as a veil over humanity to enslave us forever.

Therefore I use my free will to do that.

For the conclusion here I will mention to those ranting and complaining of the free will.
Yes everyone has a right do do everything. Abraxasinas has a right to voice his opinions. I never said that he should be banned.
But the spirit behind Abraxas ,when started to attack, I stood against.
And I will always since it invaded MY free will zone with wish to harm and destroy me.

Then how can anyone claim his free will and when he got it ,and attack others and THEN experience defending form attacked party, then it whines and screams FREE WILL, FREE WILL...

Why did you at the beginning invade my free will?
You are using your free will to attack others?

Then you will be fought over that.

NO whining helps.

Blessings to all who are trying to BE.

Beren

[Stardustaquarion]

Anchor I could upload a file on energy sensing but don't know how to access the library. I think it will be useful for every body

Love

[burgundia]

..Why don't we burn somebody at the stake???

PS...I love all your posts here MP2...

[Connecting with Sauce]

I skipped from page 12 to 22... Did I miss anything? Sorry I got bored...

The deleted thread is a available... All someone has to do is ask the right person, it is achived off Avalon somewhere...

I'd be interested in the protection / sensing enegy book to have a browse through so I can do some work on myself... That is all I gathered from page 1-12 is that quite a few still have issues to work though, we all do...

Is there any way I can get my hours back I wasted reading the 12 pages?

[SteveX]

Ha ah… The Thuban thread is back up as a read only. That should satisfy all… one would think. Seems Mr. Tony B is to remain banned. He must have been a naughty boy in the real world as the real man. I remind you he did say he was no longer the Thuban messenger. Does that then mean the Thuban messenger (Abrax) had higher morals Hahaha. The human Mr. Tony B let his side down it seems Hahaha

I would hope the Cotton Wool brigade could sheath their metaphoric God / Light sabres now. Pull the drawstring on the cotton wool bag until YOUR next perceived baddy turns up. Or maybe you are itching to dab certain forum members down with astringent, cleans the skin ready to apply a new layer of make up. Cover up the cracks of curiosity; pluck the eyelashes of free will, gloss up the lips of expression. All in the name of others, making it look prettier in YOUR dollhouse. I can feel the urges already.

Yer! that was a bit of a dig but in the words of Brook, who can't see the irony within herself, I chose to express the hypocrisy I see in here.

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Originally Posted by BROOK

[B][I]
People do certainly have the right to discuss things....and I claim the right..her and now.

Perhaps we can all get on with what ever it is we’re getting on with. There is now a happy medium between the offended and the free choice. Those offended by the Thuban thread should take charge of their voyeuristic tendencies to stop harming themselves by reading the thing. Those for free choice can read the words, blag, message, metaphor or what ever you assign it from Mr. Tony B.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by SteveX

Ha ah… The Thuban thread is back up as a read only. That should satisfy all… one would think. Seems Mr. Tony B is to remain banned. He must have been a naughty boy in the real world as the real man. I remind you he did say he was no longer the Thuban messenger. Does that then mean the Thuban messenger (Abrax) had higher morals Hahaha. The human Mr. Tony B let his side down it seems Hahaha

I would hope the Cotton Wool brigade could sheath their metaphoric God / Light sabres now. Pull the drawstring on the cotton wool bag until YOUR next perceived baddy turns up. Or maybe you are itching to dab certain forum members down with astringent, cleans the skin ready to apply a new layer of make up. Cover up the cracks of curiosity; pluck the eyelashes of free will, gloss up the lips of expression. All in the name of others, making it look prettier in YOUR dollhouse. I can feel the urges already.

Yer! that was a bit of a dig but in the words of Brook, who can't see the irony within herself, I chose to express the hypocrisy I see in here.

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Perhaps we can all get on with what ever it is we’re getting on with. There is now a happy medium between the offended and the free choice. Those offended by the Thuban thread should take charge of their voyeuristic tendencies to stop harming themselves by reading the thing. Those for free choice can read the words, blag, message, metaphor or what ever you assign it from Mr. Tony B.

Artful digging. impressive.

But I can't see much of anything satisfied by reopening the thread again, read only, or open for discussion. That was never my issue. I wanted to know what grounds founded the actions taken. We still don't know, and the story seems to be taking a little migration. The original announcement mentioned complaints of Sexual harassment. The current announcement accompanying the restoration of the thread, mentions only some posting in the social group as grounds for maintaining the ban, which last I checked, was still gone from view. So we still can't review the basis upon which the witch got himself hunted down and dealt with by the villagers.

And none of which detracts from your artful digging. (can somebody help me put reigns on my eyes? they go where ever they please, with no direction from moi.)

[THE eXchanger]

so easy to point fingers, and, blame someone else
for spirit invasion/and, spirit attacks

and, yet - there is a law
- the law of attraction
and, one doesn't need to read too far into it

to discover, you are, what it is, YOU ALLOW

suit up ...
protect yourself...
& always, and, in all ways be diligent about it

there are as many timelines, as, there are people

there also is, a collective conciousness,
where everyone, is a piece of that

everything we have ever suggested to anyone,
we do it in a way, it totally protects you,
from all others, including us, by keeping things, in 100% alignment with YOU

we find it quite sad, that after, all the energy,
and, all the sharing, after 1000's of private emails,
that all these, so-called attacked people,
that many of you, do NOT choose to more closely eXamine,
the source of the root, that can block it,
thy_selves ...
yes, learn to know thy_selves

also we are aware of other things,
and, quite frankly, at this juncture,
if more of us, looked at our own roots,
and, built from there, NONE of this would happen

why is it, so many, need others, to answer their own questions ???

these answers, are your answers
~ NOT answers, others are supposed
to find for you, and, just give you the answers

we all need to get with it, and, get with ourselves

KNOW THY_SELF - or, aspects of THY SELVES

after a life, there is a review room,
during life, there should also be a review,
sometimes, when you just do NOT know,
it is time, to remove, the interference of others,
and, sit quiet, with thy_self/selves
and, discover, the 'real' answers

that is, what is called mining for your truth
and, doing it, that way,
is part of 'the responsibility' you have to deal with,
in peeling thru, all the layers of YOU

isn't it time, you all looked to the 'real' cuprit, in any equation ???

which, ironically, is always, and, will always be you,

what saddens us the most, is, that some of you,
actually were trying to hook us, up to some of these
so-called, 'the attack' senarios ~ when, in truth
we have done a lot of work, to help many people
to insure, that, they take back, their own control,
thru harnessing their own force/and, their own power
there are actually some of you,
who have been playing both sides of the table,
and, a round table, goes round, it has NO real sides
right now, my best advise, to anyone,
is this, learn to know thy_self, and, thy_selves

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Artful digging. impressive.

But I can't see much of anything satisfied by reopening the thread again, read only, or open for discussion. That was never my issue. I wanted to know what grounds founded the actions taken. We still don't know, and the story seems to be taking a little migration. The original announcement mentioned complaints of Sexual harassment. The current announcement accompanying the restoration of the thread, mentions only some posting in the social group as grounds for maintaining the ban, which last I checked, was still gone from view. So we still can't review the basis upon which the witch got himself hunted down and dealt with by the villagers.

And none of which detracts from your artful digging. (can somebody help me put reigns on my eyes? they go where ever they please, with no direction from moi.)

I consider myself an evenhanded grounded player. I can see the present situation, given a little give and take, as satisfactory for both sides of the debate. Having said that I do see your point of view and frankly I’m shocked by some of the posts in this thread. However, I think we’ll just have to accept the judgment of the Mods. I have faith that they banned Abrax for infringement of the rules. He broke the rules of his own volition irrespective to anything said before or after. Yes it’s open to speculation, given the bile in here, of a set up but it’s also possible that someone was harassed. What ever it was the line was stepped over hence the ban.

As for the cotton wool brigade it’s like living in the middle ages. God against the Devil, witches, trolls, gargoyles, spooks and black masses. Complete retrograde hogwash. Not to mention this “psychic attack” malarkey…open to falls claims and totally UN-PROVABLE. Burn the witch, burn the witch he/she gave me headaches, bad dreams, panic visions, he was in my wet dream. That’s what it looks like FFS.

The light, love and harmony, expressed by some, has about as much sincerity as a McDonalds “have a nice day.” How on earth are we going to advance if we don’t take charge of our own actions? How long are we to be victims of our fears, imagined or otherwise? You’ve presented yourselves as villagers at a burning. Naive, scared, fearful, vindictive. The witch wasn’t the problem. The problem is you. The witch could have simply been ignored and by doing so made POWERLESS. Call yourselves Enlightened..........indeed I am.

[Céline]

Originally Posted by SteveX

Burn the witch, burn the witch

Ya i feel the flames...too

Go ahead say it..i asked for it.. i deserve it blah blah blah i really dont care..

i am what i am ...i cant change that

sigh...

Sides..sides sides sides..

Assez...

Like exchanger said.. Pa/Pc is what is important..

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Céline

i am what i am ...i cant change that

There is nothing to fear... err.... apart from physical things like detranged axe men. eXchager has it pegged

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=551

[Céline]

Originally Posted by SteveX

There is nothing to fear... err.... apart from physical things like detranged axe men. eXchager has it pegged

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=551

deranged axe men? been there done that..no worries ...i carry a big stick.

and i dont believe i said i was affraid

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Céline

deranged axe men? been there done that..no worries ...i carry a big stick.

and i dont believe i said i was affraid

You quoted me saying "burn the witch burn the witch" A quote refering to FEAR. Fear within the Village idiots at the burning.

Now... I don't play drama drama. By saying "go ahead call me a witching burning idiot" you got the correct answer. Face your fear because it's within you.

[Stardustaquarion]

Hi Beren

I agree with you, we have the right and the duty to defend ourselves from the attack of others, that is what any honourable soul will do no matter what they believe. Attack is not permited, defense is a right

Free will does not mean free for all, free will does not mean that someone else will come to my house and take what I possess, that is a breach, a violation of my space

Same happens when someone is trying to force an oppinion when it has been told one disagrees repeatedly

Calling names, belliteling people, making a mokery of a person just to get the populace distracted from the errors they are showing in their discourse, speaking gibberish under the pretence of "intelligent discourse" to shut up those that are not "in the know" etc is not free speach is bulliying

Attacking people in other planes does not come under moderator ruling so we are on our own on that one

Healthy boundaries create healthy and healing relationships

Love to all