Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat

Stargazer1965 · 03-01-2010, 08:16 PM

I hate behind closed door stuff so...

Kerry (without her authority hat) says not to shut down Thuban
Bill say (without his authority hat) that it should be shutdown
Anchor apologizes for shutting it down
Thuban is shut down

Something is not adding up...........

Majorion · 03-01-2010, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I hate behind closed door stuff so...

Kerry (without her authority hat) says not to shut down Thuban
Bill say (without his authority hat) that it should be shutdown
Anchor apologizes for shutting it down
Thuban is shut down

Something is not adding up...........

Hey Stargazer, I think the B&K problems go much deeper than that, its beyond the simple disagreement, they are apparently going very separate directions, personally I hope the best for Kerry but I have to say I'm leaning to Bill judging from what info was put out by both sides. I have to agree with the assessment in the OP about the sting operation, its the classic case. The dividing part is only step one of that plan.

TheRebel · 03-01-2010, 08:27 PM

Bill Rayan = 1

Kerry Cassidy = 1

1+1= Everything

2-1= Nothing

TR

Majorion · 03-01-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRebel

2-1= Nothing

No, 2-1 = 1

Light and Fight · 03-01-2010, 09:04 PM

Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight!

bashi · 03-01-2010, 09:14 PM

I mentioned before that not everything seems all right with B&K, but didn’t want to but logs into the fire. I nearly lost my patience and admire Bill’s.

Never before has a video posted by Camelot such a potential to influence today’s politics. Bill made a video which has the potential to be a global game-changer and it was therefore essential to get it out as soon and quick as possible. It was the only video taken down by Kerry in such a way and with a flimsy excuse. Now for more than 10 days the video remains removed. How long does it take to cut the music at the end? No pictures there, so it’s a simple cut. It won’t take more than an hour of work all in all.
The foul play smelt for too long.
It seems TPTB can not allow Kerry to release that video again, but that makes it even more important!
The game has succeeded; I pity Kerry…

.

manticore · 03-01-2010, 09:45 PM

All I can say is that I'm sorry to hear about this. I met Kerry last week at the International UFO Congress and we chatted about the show we did together a few weeks ago. She told me, a question I asked during our show took them (both) by surprise. The question was:

Quote:

JUST TO PUT THE RUMORS TO REST, IN CASE THEY ARE RUMORS. YOU BOTH, IN MY OPINION, COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER AND CREATE SYNERGY. HOWEVER, I HEAR THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE TWO OF YOU MAY GO SEPARATE WAYS. IS THIS TRUE AND IF SO, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PROJECT?

I simply said it was a question sent by a few members of the audience, and as stated above, I wanted to put the rumor to rest, if indeed it was a rumor. I then took my video camera out and filmed a couple of minutes with her. She was very complementary of our interview and also confirmed that Camelot would continue. I must say I only received positive feedback from the audience about this interview.

Perhaps their plans have now changed. Whatever the outcome, I wish Bill and Kerry the best with their future endeavors. I will upload the video in a few days, along with other videos taken; including one with a man who brought debris from a 1947 UFO crash in New Mexico (not Roswell)...

Respectfully,

Mel Fabregas - Veritas

eMonkey · 03-01-2010, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi

Bill made a video which has the potential to be a global game-changer and it was therefore essential to get it out as soon and quick as possible. It was the only video taken down by Kerry in such a way and with a flimsy excuse.
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True enough, it was an eye opener and though the information presented was stated as not on track and the planned events may not happen, Bill was right on the money, this information needed to be exposed

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi

Now for more than 10 days the video remains removed. How long does it take to cut the music at the end? No pictures there, so it’s a simple cut. It won’t take more than an hour of work all in all.
.

Personally, I have no idea how long it should have taken, but to put this in context, Bill did get out the entire production very swiftly. Something is obviously wrong here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi

It seems TPTB can not allow Kerry to release that video again, but that makes it even more important!
The game has succeeded; I pity Kerry…

.

I hope that Kerry comes around soon, I do not take sides and wish they both stayed together - they are a great team. I must say though that on Balance Bill does have a point however, he should have perhaps left the copyright stuff out or at least run it by Kerry for comment before it's release. To my knowledge I did not see reference to this. If this did not happen, why did Bill go it alone? More questions than answers.

This is not like the Kerry I have learned to know over the last 2 years. So yes, you can come to one conclusion (though not the only conclusion) that someone with strong influence must be pulling her strings.

The statement from Kerry has been pretty thin and I would like to hear more from here side. So, perhaps the Transcripts would be a good start.

EYES WIDE OPEN · 03-01-2010, 10:17 PM

Having read Bills points in the chatroom, (which still need to be verified - maybe a video of Bill confirming he typed all that stuff would be good) I think kerrys statement is weak. That is all.

Rocky_Shorz · 03-01-2010, 11:08 PM

Well I think K&B are both wonderful people but what stands out most to me is the realization that I saw the same things as Bill in both areas of Dispute.

I didn't need to get to his stickies to have instinct saying read no further there was no truth in what was being shared. The thuban thread, I didn't even make it through a paragraph before switching to a new subject.

I hate thinking that Kerry is being led towards spectacular, flashy headlines, losing the center of her spiritual reality.

What I am seeing is Bill is still very much in tune with inner perceptions so I need to side with him on this one not even knowing the whole story that Kerry's new partners are a problem.

my first thoughts told me jealousy of losing a really good friend to another. But what he shared with all of us in live chat was from his heart and a knowing fear of what he sees coming for Kerry on the path she is following.

I am glad Bill isn't just going to go with the flow of easy money. I know he will keep a close eye on Kerry and when the day comes the wind blows and she falls, he will be there to catch her...

after all, that's what good friends do...

Karen · 03-02-2010, 12:32 AM

Apologies for the temporary move of this thread to "threads needing review".

Kerry claims the first post in this thread - "much of it is lies" and slander.

Bill was contacted and stands by his remarks.

The thread is now moved back out onto the forum.

Carry on and please don't bitch anymore about this. The mod team is doing the best they can under the circumstances.

eMonkey · 03-02-2010, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen

The thread is now moved back out onto the forum.
.

Thank you Karen..

lightblue · 03-02-2010, 12:50 AM

my post ended up a collateral damage earlier on, or else it was a lie ..so i won't repeat it.

there's every reason to re-coup and move on.

best wishes l

abiit non obiit

.........................

waitinginthewings · 03-02-2010, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light and Fight

Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight!

Light: I am so with you on everything you have said. Forgiveness is important, because no stone was left unturned to turn B/K against each other. I pray that both of them will be able to see the clear light of day on what is happening to both of them.

Today, after all the whoopla was over, I was thinking about this whole situation, and it occured to me, that maybe we the members failed B/K. We did not stand strong behind them through the difficult patches. Too many attacks on their efforts, criticisms and judgements. We did not help to strengthen then, thereby leaving them vulnerable to tptb. But those are just my thoughts.

Perhaps it would be good for us all to reflect on how we could have done things better.

SteveX · 03-02-2010, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Light: I am so with you on everything you have said. Forgiveness is important, because no stone was left unturned to turn B/K against each other. I pray that both of them will be able to see the clear light of day on what is happening to both of them.

Today, after all the whoopla was over, I was thinking about this whole situation, and it occured to me, that maybe we the members failed B/K. We did not stand strong behind them through the difficult patches. Too many attacks on their efforts, criticisms and judgements. We did not help to strengthen then, thereby leaving them vulnerable to tptb. But those are just my thoughts.

Perhaps it would be good for us all to reflect on how we could have done things better.

Divorce is not the fault of the child

waitinginthewings · 03-02-2010, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveX

Divorce is not the fault of the child

Agree, but we are not children, & PC/PA played an important role in the truth movement. Perhaps we too lost sight of the bigger pic. Are we not all one family? Then why did we not all pull together and support them? My answer to my own question is, we let our ego's get in the way, & that's where we too got sidetracked by tptb.

josie · 03-02-2010, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Agree, but we are not children, & PC/PA played an important role in the truth movement. Perhaps we too lost sight of the bigger pic. Are we not all one family? Then why did we not all pull together and support them? My answer to my own question is, we let our ego's get in the way, & that's where we too got sidetracked by tptb.

true for me too. but i'm a changed girl today! when avalon was down last night it was yet another come to jesus moment. had been taking way too much for granted. yikes! close call. my best friend in the world i met here... the lack of respect and gratitude i had for avalon was equal to the lack for myself. but no longer! bring it on. i'm ready.

love too.
josie

dj kelly · 03-02-2010, 12:59 AM

I am a new member here, and thought i had found a place of freedom and truth, .... so when i see things like petty squables boil over and actualy shut a forum down, it makes me wonder if i havnt swapped one Controler for another, this forum i thought was for all of us to express our thoughts, ideas, however wacky they may seem, i relise we dont live in the world we all would like to, but i can show many forums that refuse to kowtow to the PTB, and dont worry about copy right laws ect: and stay online with out trouble,

my real point is, we are supposed to be the awake ones... yet when we subscribe to this ego/ pettiness, we leave ourselfes open to ridicule and certainly dont help others to awaken, this in fact is just what the PTB want,

So bill and kerry, whatever your reasons for your disputes and no matter whos right or wrong, you are doing yourselfes and all of us a great diservice by your actions, you both started this ball rolling you have a responsibility to see it through to the end, let go of ego, and remember what it was that got you to started in the 1st place,

one last thing, for you both to have helped bring us all togetheryou deserve
a big thank you, but this thing isnt realy about you two is it, its about every one, you were just the catalist we the masses are the flow ,

sorry to all if i sound a bit angry , but it had to be said ,

love and light to all DJ

Jacqui D · 03-01-2010, 08:39 PM

I am sad to see this happen but then this is the control system in which we live, it seems even on avalon enlightened people can still be manipulated.
We must all remember, are we here for service to self or for others!
I hoped the manipulators didn't have a chance here amongst all but it seems still they can control.
It is a shame it has come to this now a divide will pull many one way or the other.
How can we ever believe that this earth will become higher beings when even our founders can not make amends and just get on with saving her from negative energy like this.
Bill and Kerry have their reasons i am not taking sides but it is a real shame things could not be sorted after all isn't this what love is about

THE eXchanger · 03-01-2010, 08:40 PM

will originator's of threads
be allowed to choose
whether their posts go to project avalon
and/or project camelot ?

thank you

Karen · 03-02-2010, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

will originator's of threads
be allowed to choose
whether their posts go to project avalon
and/or project camelot ?

thank you

The forum will not be divided.
Bill Ryan will have the forum.
On Avalon 2.0 soon to be released, that Avalon/Camelot division will most likely be removed.

mu2143 · 03-01-2010, 08:28 PM

Does kerry not understand that the PTB own everything!!They would never get the truth out on Tel-Lie-Vision. I wondering what is behind this hmm . I think it is just a step by step destroying PC for what it stand for. Pfffff

Well she made here choice and that is what freewill is all about.

03-01-2010, 08:16 PM	#1
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I hate behind closed door stuff so... Kerry (without her authority hat) says not to shut down Thuban Bill say (without his authority hat) that it should be shutdown Anchor apologizes for shutting it down Thuban is shut down Something is not adding up...........

03-01-2010, 08:27 PM	#3
TheRebel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 87	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Bill Rayan = 1 Kerry Cassidy = 1 1+1= Everything 2-1= Nothing TR

03-01-2010, 09:04 PM	#5
Light and Fight Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 24	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight!

03-01-2010, 09:14 PM	#6
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I mentioned before that not everything seems all right with B&K, but didn’t want to but logs into the fire. I nearly lost my patience and admire Bill’s. Never before has a video posted by Camelot such a potential to influence today’s politics. Bill made a video which has the potential to be a global game-changer and it was therefore essential to get it out as soon and quick as possible. It was the only video taken down by Kerry in such a way and with a flimsy excuse. Now for more than 10 days the video remains removed. How long does it take to cut the music at the end? No pictures there, so it’s a simple cut. It won’t take more than an hour of work all in all. The foul play smelt for too long. It seems TPTB can not allow Kerry to release that video again, but that makes it even more important! The game has succeeded; I pity Kerry… .

03-01-2010, 10:17 PM	#9
EYES WIDE OPEN Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hastings, UK Posts: 424	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Having read Bills points in the chatroom, (which still need to be verified - maybe a video of Bill confirming he typed all that stuff would be good) I think kerrys statement is weak. That is all.

03-01-2010, 11:08 PM	#10
Rocky_Shorz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,098	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Well I think K&B are both wonderful people but what stands out most to me is the realization that I saw the same things as Bill in both areas of Dispute. I didn't need to get to his stickies to have instinct saying read no further there was no truth in what was being shared. The thuban thread, I didn't even make it through a paragraph before switching to a new subject. I hate thinking that Kerry is being led towards spectacular, flashy headlines, losing the center of her spiritual reality. What I am seeing is Bill is still very much in tune with inner perceptions so I need to side with him on this one not even knowing the whole story that Kerry's new partners are a problem. my first thoughts told me jealousy of losing a really good friend to another. But what he shared with all of us in live chat was from his heart and a knowing fear of what he sees coming for Kerry on the path she is following. I am glad Bill isn't just going to go with the flow of easy money. I know he will keep a close eye on Kerry and when the day comes the wind blows and she falls, he will be there to catch her... after all, that's what good friends do...

03-02-2010, 12:32 AM	#11
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Apologies for the temporary move of this thread to "threads needing review". Kerry claims the first post in this thread - "much of it is lies" and slander. Bill was contacted and stands by his remarks. The thread is now moved back out onto the forum. Carry on and please don't bitch anymore about this. The mod team is doing the best they can under the circumstances.

03-02-2010, 12:50 AM	#13
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat my post ended up a collateral damage earlier on, or else it was a lie ..so i won't repeat it. there's every reason to re-coup and move on. best wishes l abiit non obiit ......................... Last edited by lightblue; 03-02-2010 at 01:00 AM.

03-02-2010, 12:59 AM	#18
dj kelly Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 27	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I am a new member here, and thought i had found a place of freedom and truth, .... so when i see things like petty squables boil over and actualy shut a forum down, it makes me wonder if i havnt swapped one Controler for another, this forum i thought was for all of us to express our thoughts, ideas, however wacky they may seem, i relise we dont live in the world we all would like to, but i can show many forums that refuse to kowtow to the PTB, and dont worry about copy right laws ect: and stay online with out trouble, my real point is, we are supposed to be the awake ones... yet when we subscribe to this ego/ pettiness, we leave ourselfes open to ridicule and certainly dont help others to awaken, this in fact is just what the PTB want, So bill and kerry, whatever your reasons for your disputes and no matter whos right or wrong, you are doing yourselfes and all of us a great diservice by your actions, you both started this ball rolling you have a responsibility to see it through to the end, let go of ego, and remember what it was that got you to started in the 1st place, one last thing, for you both to have helped bring us all togetheryou deserve a big thank you, but this thing isnt realy about you two is it, its about every one, you were just the catalist we the masses are the flow , sorry to all if i sound a bit angry , but it had to be said , love and light to all DJ

03-01-2010, 08:39 PM	#19
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I am sad to see this happen but then this is the control system in which we live, it seems even on avalon enlightened people can still be manipulated. We must all remember, are we here for service to self or for others! I hoped the manipulators didn't have a chance here amongst all but it seems still they can control. It is a shame it has come to this now a divide will pull many one way or the other. How can we ever believe that this earth will become higher beings when even our founders can not make amends and just get on with saving her from negative energy like this. Bill and Kerry have their reasons i am not taking sides but it is a real shame things could not be sorted after all isn't this what love is about

03-01-2010, 08:40 PM	#20
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat will originator's of threads be allowed to choose whether their posts go to project avalon and/or project camelot ? thank you

03-01-2010, 08:28 PM	#22
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Does kerry not understand that the PTB own everything!!They would never get the truth out on Tel-Lie-Vision. I wondering what is behind this hmm . I think it is just a step by step destroying PC for what it stand for. Pfffff Well she made here choice and that is what freewill is all about.