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Old 02-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #1
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Thanks John mate that cleared up a couple of points.
Well if I remember correctly the granite box in the Kings chamber has got a lump missing out of the side, maybe it is an old damaged valve, or even the original from the sphinx end of the pipe, maybe they put it in there when they dismantled the external parts of the system, but felt as it belonged to the pyramid they would keep it in the kings chamber.
Just had a thought, you know all the narrow holes through the pyramid that they don't know what they are but they are supposed to line up with certain stars, well maybe the pump did send water right up the pyramid and it sprayed out of those shafts either as an irrigation system or a fancy cerimonial magic device squirting water high in the air. Just a thought
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:35 PM   #2
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Thanks John mate that cleared up a couple of points.
Well if I remember correctly the granite box in the Kings chamber has got a lump missing out of the side, maybe it is an old damaged valve, or even the original from the sphinx end of the pipe, maybe they put it in there when they dismantled the external parts of the system, but felt as it belonged to the pyramid they would keep it in the kings chamber.
Just had a thought, you know all the narrow holes through the pyramid that they don't know what they are but they are supposed to line up with certain stars, well maybe the pump did send water right up the pyramid and it sprayed out of those shafts either as an irrigation system or a fancy cerimonial magic device squirting water high in the air. Just a thought
I know the explanations were LONG. I'm just glad you considered what I wrote. When I was trying to guess what they would have built with rock at Giza, I completely considered thrust impacts, materials, and service and maintenance. When you are the guy that has to fix everything, you consider this stuff.

The granite boxes are very interesting and there's a bunch of them down in the "water shaft" / "Tomb of Osiris". BUT, you never know if that "coffer" was an old valve or just mangled by tourists.

I don't think there was water in the upper half of the GP. With all the salt encrustration in the Q's chamber (hence since removed) it points towards some other process in there. (There was up to 1" of salt crystal encrustation on the walls and ceiling of the Q's chamber - chemical analysis by Dr. Patrick Flanagan)

Just changed the waste gate tail piece. This little crack stopped it from running because of minor leakage. Air in the system does the same (unlike normal rams)



Here's a close up of an actual waste gate valve. Just a plunger check valve with spring flipped and running backwards. (plus a little slider action like a square block check valve)




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Old 02-21-2010, 04:28 PM   #3
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By pointing-out Chris Dunn's research, you have opened a whole new evidential trail for me to follow. I love looking at this subject from an engineer's prospective. I truly appreciate your bringing Chris to my attention.

I can offer no other input into your research. The discoveries you are making are far beyond my technical capacity.

My function is as a simple observer. I consume the knowledge, and report back my best interpretation. I know within my heart that you are on the correct path.

I'll stay "subscribed" to this thread so I can keep a watch to see how this all develops for you. Good Luck !!!
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:40 PM   #4
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By pointing-out Chris Dunn's research, you have opened a whole new evidential trail for me to follow. I love looking at this subject from an engineer's prospective. I truly appreciate your bringing Chris to my attention.

I can offer no other input into your research. The discoveries you are making are far beyond my technical capacity.

My function is as a simple observer. I consume the knowledge, and report back my best interpretation. I know within my heart that you are on the correct path.

I'll stay "subscribed" to this thread so I can keep a watch to see how this all develops for you. Good Luck !!!
Hi Observer,

Thanks for the support.

Chris Dunn's machined artifacts work is absolutely outstanding. It helps if you have an engineering background or machining background to grasp the sheer precision of the artifacts he is measuring.

Chris added observations about the GP and even discovered that the upper part of the Grand Gallery is discolored granite and not limestone.

Chris had suggested that there was some sort of machine in the sub chamber that provided priming pulses for the GP. He visualised some mechanical device because of his mechanical perspective. I wrote him for 6 years before he checked out the pump/pulse gen and concluded that, "Yes, that's the pulse gen for the GP"

I believe Chris had much right but not the whole machine.

I am an observer also. I was given a vision quest for the sub chamber. That was back in 2000.

Nassim Haramein really added a new twist to the whole thing. There's also Valery Uvarov & Anatoli Golod's work. The Russians embrace the pyramid work.

Valery was interviewed by Kerry and is on their video interviews. Some of his work is in one of his books (free download):

http://www.iicufi.org/download_engin...ent.php?dlid=1

His pyramid research is at:
http://pyramids.iicufi.org/index.php?id=87&L=1

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Old 02-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #5
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John,

FYI, I spent my young adulthood working in an engineering office as a draftsman, and latter as a job site superintendent. My whole life has been in and around the construction industry, mostly as a master carpenter. More recently, I've spend most of my working days around heavy equipment. To paraphrase a quote from a famous movie, "I love the smell of burning *diesel* early in the morning". LOL

That's the reason Chris Dunn's work resonates with me.

Just in case you haven't put it completely together, Nassim Haramein's suggestion that the Arc of the Covenant was/is a mini black hole; by placing this within the confines of the obvious "machine" that the Great Pyramid is meant to be, I can't even fathom the mathematical possibilities.

Somehow, ancient technology was capable of containing a singularity, albeit a mini-singularity. If you research the mythologies from antiquity you will find reference to this phenomenon throughout, i.e. in the Bhagavad Gita, in the Epic of Gilgamesh, etc. This phenomenon has been described as a weapon, as a tool, as a "fiery furnace", etc.

Like you, I too have my suspicions what the builders of the pyramids were doing with this machine. It's obvious to me the Egyptians had nothing to do with this technology. I'll leave it up to people with much greater understanding to find the evidence that will lead to a final conclusion.

I'll take your suggestion and look at Uvarov & Golod's work....

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Old 02-22-2010, 03:30 AM   #6
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Just in case you haven't put it completely together, Nassim Haramein's suggestion that the Arc of the Covenant was/is a mini black hole; by placing this within the confines of the obvious "machine" that the Great Pyramid is meant to be, I can't even fathom the mathematical possibilities.

Somehow, ancient technology was capable of containing a singularity, albeit a mini-singularity. If you research the mythologies from antiquity you will find reference to this phenomenon throughout, i.e. in the Bhagavad Gita, in the Epic of Gilgamesh, etc. This phenomenon has been described as a weapon, as a tool, as a "fiery furnace", etc.

Like you, I too have my suspicions what the builders of the pyramids were doing with this machine. It's obvious to me the Egyptians had nothing to do with this technology. I'll leave it up to people with much greater understanding to find the evidence that will lead to a final conclusion.

I'll take your suggestion and look at Uvarov & Golod's work....
Thanks for sharing the info about what Nassim was suggesting! I'm 50% genius and 50% idiot. Probably wouldn't have dawned on me for a couple weeks!

Here's a little tidbit that I just remembered . . .

Radioactivity placed within the pyramid shape makes it run.

From William Kapsaris . . . "I put an old wristwatch inside it (pyramid model) on a stand one third the model's height. (The watch was a gift I hadn't worn in years, because the luminous paint on its hands and face was emitting a low level of radioactivity.) After I had realigned the model with magnetic North, I left for work. When I returned, about ten hours later, the scent of the tape had filled every room in the house: the dining room, front room, and kitchen on the first floor, and the two bedrooms and the bathroom on the second."

William (Bill) Kapsaris has a youtube vid about his model ("epsilon")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fbeqlNt398

Now, what if they put the almighty arc in the GP? (I had read previously that the coffer was the size of the arc)

What in the world would the GP do?

I must admit, Nassim's work is still rocking my head. I know most, if not all, of it is correct.

John

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Old 02-22-2010, 03:43 PM   #7
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Radioactivity placed within the pyramid shape makes it run.

William (Bill) Kapsaris has a youtube vid about his model ("epsilon")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fbeqlNt398
This Bill Kapsaris video is the Rosetta Stone to understanding what all the burned granite reported to be at the top of the grand gallery is all about.

Now, how does this all relate to the salt deposits in the queen's chamber? Could there possibly be an underground tunnel to the Mediterranean sea? (we are speaking of extraterrestrial technology) Could the pyramid pump have been pumping salt water into the queen's chamber to separate the hydrogen gas? (The separation of hydrogen gas from water works more efficiently from salt water. Thus, the heavy salt deposits on the walls of the queen's chamber) Why would they have needed hydrogen gas when they already had the power of a contained singularity? Probably questions that are totally irrelevant.
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This Bill Kapsaris video is the Rosetta Stone to understanding what all the burned granite reported to be at the top of the grand gallery is all about.

Now, how does this all relate to the salt deposits in the queen's chamber? Could there possibly be an underground tunnel to the Mediterranean sea? (we are speaking of extraterrestrial technology) Could the pyramid pump have been pumping salt water into the queen's chamber to separate the hydrogen gas? (The separation of hydrogen gas from water works more efficiently from salt water. Thus, the heavy salt deposits on the walls of the queen's chamber) Why would they have needed hydrogen gas when they already had the power of a contained singularity? Probably questions that are totally irrelevant.
I have to wake up a bit and read the links . . . BUT Joe Parr's work deals with the Q's chamber and hyperdimensional drive. No-joke. Joe's work and credentials are amazing. He invented the gamma ray transducer back in-the-day.

Joe has experimental, quantified data, that shows that the pyramid shape blocks (escapement) of all known forces. The problem he is having right now is that he has created a huge (energy??) bubble around his garage/house that is blocking out further experimentation. Dan Davidson replicated Joe's experiment and confirmed results, but Dan's wife won't let him do any more experimentation because Dan started to get the permanent high energy buble around his house. Dan had to ground it out to keep it from growing or expanding.

The pyramid shape temporarily loses weight during certain times of the year. It also blocks radioactivity escapement from the shape. (Joe has all sorts of cool stuff including acces to radioactive material and detectors)

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Maybe I should have started this thread out with, "Neo, do you want the red pill or the blue pill?" How deep does this rabbit hole go?

I wrote this back in 2002 but deleted from research article because of all the flak I got about it . . .

SOLVING THE GIZA MYSTERY

He who solves this puzzle will have to combine mechanical effects and shape effect. The shape is an energy lens (Patrick Flanagan) that utilizes ‘e’ for exponential energy growth. (Rick Howard) Low level radiation placed at the King’s chamber elevation causes the shape to start running. (William Kapsaris)



The shape greatly affects the ozone layer as well as subterranean fluids. (Anatoli Golod) The shape traps mass particles and develops an energy field or bubble that surrounds the pyramid. This bubble has demonstrated the ability to block all known forces. (Joe Parr)



The shape also produces beneficial health effects (Kirti Betai, Patrick Flanagan, Anatoli Golod, and others)

------------------------------

Yes, the base of natural logs, e, is directly in the primary angles of the GP! Rick Howard did an "insane" (i.e. genius) proof the "T-T-T", "Triple-Trinagle-Theorem" that relates pi, phi & e to the pyramid. I'm not a big numbers guy, but what I could see was brilliant. Good God, he found e (to 99.9997%) in the primary GP angles.

(Rick's e proportion)
http://gizapyramid.com/ricks-e-propo...-research.html


(Rick's T-T-T)
http://gizapyramid.com/rick_howard%20research.htm

And now, listening to Nassim's descriptions of the arc and that it fit in the coffer . . . it completely staggers the imagination.

Rick Howard, William Kapsaris & I were corresponding heavily around '99 but we all got stuck looking for more data around 2003.

John

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I recall reading sometime in the distant past where some debunker of the pi ratio theory said that if you take a wheel and put a mark on the outer circumference, and if you walk that wheel two different directions for a predetermined number of rotations, and then build a building, that building will always have a pi ratio.

Well, that's true. But, it doesn't account for the pyramid builders picking the number 440 circumference of a wheel to be the number they used for the base dimensions. And, it also doesn't account for the 'e' factor in the construction.

After reading Rick Howard's work, there can be no doubt this structure was built by an advanced civilization. We're far beyond that argument, however. Didn't we already know that ?!?! Just further evidential documentation....

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Lightbulb Water Kind O' Stuff

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Notching and A Secret of Spirituality

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Need more data, but looks interesting. Explain more and I'm sure you'll get feedback.

Observer,

Nassim relates vortex and water vapor on sun (at spots) going to singularity. The GP has water vortex under singularity (arc) . . . interesting?

It seems like the vortex (in the sub chamber) is going the wrong direction when compared to Nassim's diagrams. Schauberger had vortex descriptions with positive/negative energy gains.





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When one finally accepts the understanding that the "Oxford Template" of educating the masses was designed specifically to keep knowledge contained within a box, there is no leap of faith necessary to understanding why our most advanced physics have eliminated all torsion calculations from the mathematics of the cosmos. (Nassim Haramein's work in solving the Unified Field Theory pivots around the addition of torque)

Angular momentum (spin) is the key to understanding how gravity works. If one imagines a spinning atom passing through a straight line in space, one can visualize a spiraling vortex. (much like an Archimedes Screw). Combine a mass of atoms with their radiating electromagnetic spinning vortices and one gets gravity.

In mechanics, torque is a major consideration when calculating the strength of materials. Could it have been by design that torque was overlooked when physicists were quantifying the universe?

Vortices are the key to understanding the dynamics of the universe. There's no doubt your research into the vortex created by the flow of water at the Giza Plateau is a major part of understanding what at least one of the pyramids was used for.

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Siri,

I went to your link and saw how you used to have this apparatus hanging over your bed. A long time ago I had a pyramid assembly mounted in the same inverted fashion over my bed. I called it a "cosmic funnel".

I had to disassemble it when they converted the building I was living-in into a parking lot. (pave paradise....)

In retrospect, I don't feel it did any good. The woman with whom I was married for 23 years decided to take the "better deal". So much for focusing on Love and that having an effect on the (-) side of the equation. Consult any indigenous wise man, and ask him if his ancestor's focus on Love had any effect on the wave of Western Civilization that changed his tribal paradigm.

Somehow, I believe there's a whole lot more to it than that. I think the secret to understanding this particular reality is in the understanding of how it is manipulated from behind the wall of smoke-and-mirrors. Just my personal opinion, I could be wrong.

Thank you for your input, it was an interesting read.

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Anybody following this thread really needs to watch the Nassim Haramein video on google vids (2 - 4 hour parts) or youtube (many parts)

"Observer" referenced this before. I hadn't seen his work before but found that it is absolutely critical background info. Since you are at projectcamelot forum, this is absoltely enlightening and quite entertaining.


Nassim Haramein at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. 2003

(links aren't working for me right now)

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