Does Obama Use Neuro-Linguistic Programming Techniques in Speeches?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by greybeard

...its an assumption that people are being bamboozled by poiticians.
They have the same information that you have...

When I say people, I'm talking about all of us.

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Seashore

When I say people, I'm talking about all of us.

Sorry I picked you up wrong Seashore.
I can only speak for me and im not that sure which me Im speaking for

Regards Chris

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Sorry I picked you up wrong Seashore.
I can only speak for me and im not that sure which me Im speaking for

Regards Chris

Are you of the opinion that NLP can be used for good things?

I did notice when I searched for the YouTube video that I posted here that it appears that NLP is taught as a positive thing to be used to increase our brain power. Is that true?

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Are you of the opinion that NLP can be used for good things?

I did notice when I searched for the YouTube video that I posted here that it appears that NLP is taught as a positive thing to be used to increase our brain power. Is that true?

Seashore N.L.P.
is very broad based.
In the beginning the originators looked at all the therapists that were ultra successful to see if it was just them or could it be learned and taught. They found that yes the technique could be learned and taught,

When I was practicing I cured people of phobias and all kinds of malfunctions of the mind using NLP. So yes it can be used positively much good can come of it.
People greatly lacking in confidence were taught how to project them selves using NLP.
Brain power can be enhanced.

In therapy the ego will sabotage the "cure" as there is massive pay value in being a victim, the center of attention - co-dependent. So embedded suggestions are made to the subconscious un tampered with by the ego. end results are implied.

The populous may be fooled by politicians using NLP but all politicians use it so it balances out.

Hope this helps.
Chris

[Anchor]

Seashore,

It is my position that the voice is an incredible tool. Experts in its use in various modes can gain complete control over people. Like any tool it can be abused. NLP is one mode, but there are others.

Let's take a slightly less pejorative example: singing.

Lisa Gerrard is one of my favourites. She sings with the voice of an angel. When she sings her glossolalia she brings an energy that can make me cry like a baby if I am open to allowing myself to be carried that way.

I have noted that when I am speaking (or for that matter even writting) about something emotionaly resonant for me it can make my throat choke up and has made me get emotional on several occasions (of they eye-leaking kind!). For example this happened once when I was describing a healing event at a meeting of fellow avalonians in Sydney - one minute I am describing a healing I was involved in carrying out on a sick animal, the next the amazing and burst of joy I had at the discovery that it had worked - and this triggered the leaky emotional response I felt at that time all over again. I wish to be able to speak to these subject unimpeded by this emotional response (since it gets in the way and stops me dead in my tracks) and I find it most inconvenient and a little embarrassing.

Recently I discovered that being affected that way is OPTIONAL - as soon as you see yourself being carried along like this you can exercise the OPTION to shut it down and remain in control - it takes practise. I am practising even as I wrote the above.

Anyway the point is that I think the sound produced by the voice is uniquely overlaid by additional energies associated with the mental intent that was used to invoke those sounds and words - therefore it is not just 3D sound - it is a spiritual energy. These energies have the extraordinary power and can reach the hearts of our fellow humankind if used well.

A..

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Anchor

I have noted that when I am speaking (or for that matter even writting) about something emotionaly resonant for me it can make my throat choke up and has made me get emotional on several occasions (of they eye-leaking kind!). For example this happened once when I was describing a healing event at a meeting of fellow avalonians in Sydney - one minute I am describing a healing I was involved in carrying out on a sick animal, the next the amazing and burst of joy I had at the discovery that it had worked - and this triggered the leaky emotional response I felt at that time all over again. I wish to be able to speak to these subject unimpeded by this emotional response (since it gets in the way and stops me dead in my tracks) and I find it most inconvenient and a little embarrassing.

I, personally, love it when people display emotions of a loving kind. It makes me connect to that person. I listen to Dr Ott's radio show a lot, and one time he started to cry on air. He was reading aloud a piece about an autistic child. I have nothing but respect for people who care enough to cry.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Seashore N.L.P.
is very broad based.
In the beginning the originators looked at all the therapists that were ultra successful to see if it was just them or could it be learned and taught. They found that yes the technique could be learned and taught,

When I was practicing I cured people of phobias and all kinds of malfunctions of the mind using NLP. So yes it can be used positively much good can come of it.
People greatly lacking in confidence were taught how to project them selves using NLP.
Brain power can be enhanced.

In therapy the ego will sabotage the "cure" as there is massive pay value in being a victim, the center of attention - co-dependent. So embedded suggestions are made to the subconscious un tampered with by the ego. end results are implied.

This is the intended use of it by the person who originated it. And it's with permission, because the patient/client has hired the therapist to do therapy.

Originally Posted by greybeard

The populous may be fooled by politicians using NLP but all politicians use it so it balances out.

An honest politician would not try to fool the public.

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Seashore

This is the intended use of it by the person who originated it. And it's with permission, because the patient/client has hired the therapist to do therapy.

Chris says Agree totally seashore.

An honest politician would not try to fool the public.

That is so too, but honest politicians will use N.L.P. honestly.
It is just a way of giving impact to the words, the words are out there for all to hear and agree or disagree. If the technique was so potent then everyone would have to agree with the speaker and that just dosent happen.
All political parties use sound bites, slogans, spin Dr's. Its the way it is seashore..
There are politicians and there are Statesmen, they are a rare breed.

Regards Chris

[lisa]

Seashore, completely agree.

Words and charisma are deceiving.
People who care about politics should focus on policy details rather than words or charm of their favorite politician or political party.
Hopefully our world can evolve past money soon.