Why making God unfashionable never works..

orthodoxymoron · 02-17-2010, 08:55 PM

I chose to go to hell? What was I thinking?

Now I'm reduced to trying to get people to air-condition the place!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878

Thank-you Beren. I think I will reread the Bible from a Humanistic Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction point of view. (Seriously!) Sort of a cross between Robert H. Schuller, Albert Schweitzer (his whole life and writings), Ralph Ellis (Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs), and Stargate SG-1. JB Phillips was wrong when he wrote 'Your God is Too Small'. Our God is too BIG. We've made God into a fairy-tale...and a nightmare in many cases. Our Theology is Too Small. It's time to take off the blinders and the gloves...and get real...real fast. Studying all of the Gospels (not just the four)...with a Strong's (not Young's) Concordance...using Grammatical-Historical Hermeneutics (rather than Subjective-Eisegesis)...would be an excellent approach. You know...using the words of Jesus as a theological home-base...and working outward from there. A group of White Hat Jesuits should start a Society of the Teachings of Jesus. The big question is...will I actually do this? I mean well...but I have a very weak follow-through. I'm a tempest in a teapot...and the spooks (or the Jesuits) shouldn't waste their time on me. Actually...they probably don't even know who I am!

Namaste

truthseekerdan · 02-17-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I chose to go to hell? You are in it now! What was I thinking?

Now I'm reduced to trying to get people to air-condition the place!

aroundthetable · 02-17-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

love the battling smileys!!

aroundthetable · 02-17-2010, 10:18 PM

Posted by Beren,

Psalm 15
A psalm of David.
1 LORD, who may dwell in your sanctuary?
Who may live on your holy hill?

2 He whose walk is blameless
and who does what is righteous,
who speaks the truth from his heart

3 and has no slander on his tongue,
who does his neighbor no wrong
and casts no slur on his fellowman,

4 who despises a vile man
but honors those who fear the LORD,
who keeps his oath
even when it hurts,

5 who lends his money without usury
and does not accept a bribe against the innocent.
He who does these things
will never be shaken.

Ty Beren
These are time honoured values preserved in all the scriptures and that is why making God unfashionable never works, because all living souls recognise these truths.

aroundthetable · 02-17-2010, 10:22 PM

Here is a similar message from the Bhagavad Gita,

Ch 15 Tx 5

Those who are free from false prestige, illusion and false association, who can understand the eternal, who are done with material lust, who are freed from the dualities of happiness and distress, and who, unbewildered, know how to surrender unto the supreme person attain to that eternal kingdom.

kriya · 02-17-2010, 10:25 PM

Beautiful and powerful posts, greybeard and aroundthetable

Great spiritual truths...

Love,

Kriya

aroundthetable · 02-17-2010, 10:38 PM

Thankyou for saying that Kriya, always remembering this is not my own concoction but from time honoured scripture. It is there waiting and freely available to all who wish to partake and gain relief from the disturbances of the material world.

beren · 02-17-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I chose to go to hell? What was I thinking?

Now I'm reduced to trying to get people to air-condition the place!

this is smiley trying to brake the wall (he`s angry and can`t wait so he haste with his head! ) and the other one sweating and hoping that first one stay where he is...

greybeard · 02-17-2010, 09:36 PM

Quote from THE BHAGAVAD GITA.
ARJUNAN
Tell me of those who live established in wisdom ever aware of the Self, O Krishna.
How do they talk? How sit? How move about?

SRI KRISHNA
They live in wisdom who see themselves in all and all in them, who have renounced every selfish desire and sense craving tormenting the heart.
Neither agitated by grief nor hankering after pleasure, they live free from lust and fear and anger.
Established in meditation they are truly wise. Fettered no more by selfish attachments, they are neither elated by good fortune nor depressed by bad. Such are the seers.

That was written many thousands of years ago yet still relevant in this world.

Golden World yes if we even remotely follow these ancient teachings updated to modern language, the essence is timeless.
Chris

02-17-2010, 08:55 PM	#1
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. I chose to go to hell? What was I thinking? Now I'm reduced to trying to get people to air-condition the place! http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Thank-you Beren. I think I will reread the Bible from a Humanistic Christocentric Egyptological Science Fiction point of view. (Seriously!) Sort of a cross between Robert H. Schuller, Albert Schweitzer (his whole life and writings), Ralph Ellis (Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs), and Stargate SG-1. JB Phillips was wrong when he wrote 'Your God is Too Small'. Our God is too BIG. We've made God into a fairy-tale...and a nightmare in many cases. Our Theology is Too Small. It's time to take off the blinders and the gloves...and get real...real fast. Studying all of the Gospels (not just the four)...with a Strong's (not Young's) Concordance...using Grammatical-Historical Hermeneutics (rather than Subjective-Eisegesis)...would be an excellent approach. You know...using the words of Jesus as a theological home-base...and working outward from there. A group of White Hat Jesuits should start a Society of the Teachings of Jesus. The big question is...will I actually do this? I mean well...but I have a very weak follow-through. I'm a tempest in a teapot...and the spooks (or the Jesuits) shouldn't waste their time on me. Actually...they probably don't even know who I am! Namaste Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 02-17-2010 at 10:58 PM.

02-17-2010, 10:18 PM	#4
aroundthetable Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 410	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Posted by Beren, Psalm 15 A psalm of David. 1 LORD, who may dwell in your sanctuary? Who may live on your holy hill? 2 He whose walk is blameless and who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from his heart 3 and has no slander on his tongue, who does his neighbor no wrong and casts no slur on his fellowman, 4 who despises a vile man but honors those who fear the LORD, who keeps his oath even when it hurts, 5 who lends his money without usury and does not accept a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things will never be shaken. Ty Beren These are time honoured values preserved in all the scriptures and that is why making God unfashionable never works, because all living souls recognise these truths.

02-17-2010, 10:22 PM	#5
aroundthetable Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 410	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Here is a similar message from the Bhagavad Gita, Ch 15 Tx 5 Those who are free from false prestige, illusion and false association, who can understand the eternal, who are done with material lust, who are freed from the dualities of happiness and distress, and who, unbewildered, know how to surrender unto the supreme person attain to that eternal kingdom.

02-17-2010, 10:25 PM	#6
kriya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 213	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Beautiful and powerful posts, greybeard and aroundthetable Great spiritual truths... Love, Kriya

02-17-2010, 10:38 PM	#7
aroundthetable Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 410	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Thankyou for saying that Kriya, always remembering this is not my own concoction but from time honoured scripture. It is there waiting and freely available to all who wish to partake and gain relief from the disturbances of the material world.

02-17-2010, 09:36 PM	#9
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Quote from THE BHAGAVAD GITA. ARJUNAN Tell me of those who live established in wisdom ever aware of the Self, O Krishna. How do they talk? How sit? How move about? SRI KRISHNA They live in wisdom who see themselves in all and all in them, who have renounced every selfish desire and sense craving tormenting the heart. Neither agitated by grief nor hankering after pleasure, they live free from lust and fear and anger. Established in meditation they are truly wise. Fettered no more by selfish attachments, they are neither elated by good fortune nor depressed by bad. Such are the seers. That was written many thousands of years ago yet still relevant in this world. Golden World yes if we even remotely follow these ancient teachings updated to modern language, the essence is timeless. Chris