The Heather Material

[Hiram]

I'd like to express my two cents here:

Its patently obvious that the Heather.PDF was not written by anyone with an MD or PHD. Perhaps it was transcribed, by someone with a grade-school level of education. Thats possible.

How do I know this? I work in one of the worlds leading research Institutions (Genetics, Bio-Physics, Medical Science etc) and handle materials and papers written by MD, PHDs, MPH's EVERY DAY. Who better to evaluate this? And no, I'm sorry the material is not consistent with someone writing in a 2nd language either. Language facility is not really the issue with the PDF, rather thought, idea structure and presentation, and utter LACK of some basic verbage and "industry" terminology that anyone who has an education (as claimed by the author) would have.

So does this mean that there aren't "supersoldiers" being genteically altered and equiped with nano-technology? Of course not. Its very possible/Probable. I think it's a real issue and I have nothing but the utmost sympathy for those folks (Duncan O'finoin etc)

But as I've stated before on this forum...there is such a thing as being a free an open forum of ideas....and on the other hand allowing people to willfully stray into self-indulgence (by allowing them to drone on an on before a captive audience) and actively mis-leading people.

When you run a forum you have to strike an intelligent balance. Does the fact that your site is about Whistleblowers mean that you have to present EVERY STORY and EVERY PERSON that approaches you equally?

Is one not allowed to evaluate the veracity and value of information at all before presenting it?

Should one who is presenting a story, have to provide some very basic substantiating data? If the party can't provide ANY info, then shouldn't the next step be for Bill/Kerry to look at the info an ask themselves if it adds/contributes value to their mission?

Is their mission to provide a mouthpiece/soapbox for anyone who has any strange story or claim? ----without putting their personal opinion as site/project founders in at all?

I think these are fair questions.

IMO as a scientist, I see nothing wrong with being discerning about what you present. I think the "risk" of losing a really good whistleblower is minimal...basically because the really good ones will have some substantiating info. They will. Plain and simple.

But I don't believe I should just be able to make-up any story and just blather all over here in the name of "free expression of ideas". No one here would like it if I did that....and I can assure you I could make my PDF sound VERY convincing! I would expect someone to contact me to ask some follow-up questions. I hope that is what happens here.

[SteveX]

Hiram

here here well said

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Hiram

I'd like to express my two cents here:


But I don't believe I should just be able to make-up any story and just blather all over here in the name of "free expression of ideas". No one here would like it if I did that....and I can assure you I could make my PDF sound VERY convincing! I would expect someone to contact me to ask some follow-up questions. I hope that is what happens here.

It obviously only happens to a few................


I too do not believe anyone should post in here a made up story but if Kerry and Bill truly vetted all the whistleblowers, do you still think they would of put their stories out there ?

Its so sad that this has happen and I will put right here that it was because one mod thought there were too many "typos". For shame. Thats not a good enough reason

My daughter in laws grandmother could tell you stories that would make your hair stand up straight and so could my late husband who was also Native American.

I will not come forward and post on here because I might be asked for "proof" and I have none but what was told to me and its in my mind and heart. The grandmother speaks the truth and she will not come forward. Oh does that means she lies ? NO

I say Shame on anyone that thinks they are authorative enough to judge one mans because of typos or IP address.

Whether he is really sick or not should not be brought up for discussion period

Anchor, you surprised me with the F.....ing sue me 2 remark, its out of character for you.



I have been coming here since it opened and I do think if you do not comply with the mods in what your response is you are not always banned............you are ignorred.....pure and simple

Sidekick has a valid point in his remarks on how it goes down in this forum


Its funny I keep hearing how FrancieJones got banned for putting up a private email recieved from Bill........Why is Lightwarrior still able to post when he indeed put up a PM of kinsuemei2 ? All I seen was it was removed and he is still around (not sure of his name ) I'm not asking that he be banned but I'm saying Rules s/b for all if applied fairly

No one deserves to be treated as they didnt matter. We all matter and should be treated as we would want to be. So banning and ignoring based on assumptions or disagreeing is wrong.

[Hiram]

mnTruthseeker,

You are a decent and beautiful spirit, I can feel it from your words. However, I think you are not really addressing the point that I am making. It is a fair and reasonable point and one that deserves an equitable response.

The question I posed further up was: "Is their (PCs) mission to provide a mouthpiece/soapbox for anyone who has any strange story or claim? ----without putting their personal opinion as site/project founders into at all?"

You are implying that in the event that Bill or Kerry makes the decision to pull/ not allow some information due to factors they feel make it veracity questionable...that the sources of that information are being "Treated as if they didn't matter".

I think you are being a bit extreme with that statement and bringing a bit too much emotion to what should be pretty basic. In other words you are making it personal.

I want to emphasize that I commend you for defending those people who you see as victims.

What you might not realize however, is that being mislead by faulty information victimizes people as well. And trying to protect people from lies and untruths is also an attempt to keep people from being victims.

You say you will not come forward and post on here for fear of being "asked for proof".

Is it so mean to ask somone for proof? Does it mean that your story is untrue because you have no proof? No. I think in that situation one would simply state: This is what happened to me, though I have no proof

I am absolutely certain that most on here would love to hear the story...some would believe, some would not...thus is life.

Its not mean, or cruel to ask someone for proof. If they can't produce it they simply can't. But in that case, a person must have SOME standards.

No one is being judged on "Typos". In fact, I don't think anyone is being judged at all. I think some information is being evaluated as to its likelihood. Most factors point to it being some sort of mixture of fantasy and fact. Unfortunately the proponderance of data suggests that it is contrived.

Hopefully we'll get some better information soon that will clear everything up.

I don't think anyone is a "victim" here...so we should drop that mentality.

[lightblue]

What you might not realize however, is that being mislead by faulty information victimizes people as well. And trying to protect people from lies and untruths is also an attempt to keep people from being victims.

Good point Hiram
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Hi Mntruthseeker

I say Shame on anyone that thinks they are authorative enough to judge one mans because of typos or IP address.

you use SHAME to express your strong opinion quite often here and elsewhere in your post.... in itself a judgement....or resentment...

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Its funny I keep hearing how FrancieJones got banned for putting up a private email recieved from Bill........Why is Lightwarrior still able to post when he indeed put up a PM of kinsuemei2 ? All I seen was it was removed and he is still around (not sure of his name ) I'm not asking that he be banned but I'm saying Rules s/b for all if applied fairly

I just want to note I have written permission from Kinsuemei2 to post that info\PM, and he sent it to me in order to make an article out of it on PLW. Which I did, not published, but I can link it to you if you wish. In any other case (without written permission) I would agree with you.

EDIT TO ADD: A quote of my earlier statement in this thread, I feel it is relevant to your point (page 2)

I have a couple of personal remarks regarding this entire subject.

1. Release the material with personal disclaimers from Bill and/or Kerry if any of them wish to do so. The notes in the PDF file is more than sufficient in my view along with a personal disclaimer. Personal disclaimers has been done before on PC, and so it should be done regarding all subjects\whistle-blowers in all that is fair, in my view.

2. Do not for any reason release IP addresses or any personal details that can risk the identity of the whistle-blower, no matter what the case may be. This should go without question in all cases.

This is about all I have to say regarding this subject.

Best regards,

Tommy

[mntruthseeker]

Hiram You are right, I came here to pick up a name and this whole post was meant for another thread...........under banned and forgotten



I also was already informed that I was out of line for putting this here.

Makes no difference to me as what I said is the truth and most people here find that they are up against so many when they try to express themself

I meant every word I put and I would not change a word.

You mentioned that you were given permission but I want to say the words you put along with the email you put out here...............was very derogative and that puts a whole different light on the complete message.

I am very disapointed at the spin of things myself and being a long time member I have seen alot of people just quietly leave.

I do not know Kinsuemei and do not know what he is about but I do believe in equal rights no matter who or what you are. In fact we never chatted prior to any of this. I just seen an unfairness and got a sick feeling seeing how many sided against him and half never read the full thread.


So to those that find this offensive, I'm sorry but maybe you see for yourself that all of us do not just "follow the leaders"

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

You mentioned that you were given permission but I want to say the words you put along with the email you put out here...............was very derogative and that puts a whole different light on the complete message.

I will not argue with you on that specific point. But you should be aware I posted (in Kerry's thread) that I withdraw my earlier conclusions\statements in light of the information Kerry provided. As far as I knew Kerry concurred with this information at the point of Bill's postings, and I was afraid that I almost (perhaps) would publicly post false information on PLW. So I left the decision to Kerry herself.

That should sum it up

[morguana]

just to let you know that this post by mntruthseeker http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...8&postcount=64 is now where it is suppose to be, however i will have to leave the original as some have replied to it here.
so from me i wish you all a fine night
m x

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

calling clark kent!!!! calling clark kent!!!! maybe he cant even be bothered anymore...... i know how he feels..

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by seeingterra

I will not argue with you on that specific point. But you should be aware I posted (in Kerry's thread) that I withdraw my earlier conclusions\statements in light of the information Kerry provided. As far as I knew Kerry concurred with this information at the point of Bill's postings, and I was afraid that I almost (perhaps) would publicly post false information on PLW. So I left the decision to Kerry herself.

That should sum it up

No and I wish not to argue either. I actually put this on the wrong thread as I indicated.

You did take it back and you know that was great and its not something you see very often. The point I was making was that if you have rules they need to keep them. I don't wish to see anyone banned from the forum ever........Just do not give a reason and then let it slip by for others. I hope you understand my point.

If you are going to have mods, then please keep it consistent and be honest.

Oh and I by no means do I feel a victim in any of this.

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

No and I wish not to argue either. I actually put this on the wrong thread as I indicated.

You did take it back and you know that was great and its not something you see very often. The point I was making was that if you have rules they need to keep them. I don't wish to see anyone banned from the forum ever........Just do not give a reason and then let it slip by for others. I hope you understand my point.

If you are going to have mods, then please keep it consistent and be honest.

Oh and I by no means do I feel a victim in any of this.

Yes, I understand A very valid point indeed.

[Gnosis5]

One underlying theme being played out over and over on this forum is the testing of people's various levels of ability to confront various hard truths.

For example: When I was a kiddo I knew someone who was highly respected by the locals and who was secretly a pedophile. Why could I see it and they could not and even until the last inch of their breath would not accept what was very obvious to me, but I was just a kid.....

When you find out how really controlled and manipulated we are and how advanced the black ops technologies and sciences are, how many people on your block are going to believe you?

The worst I am personally aware of is that they are advanced in bio-engineering, re-mapping consciousness, hyperdimensional sciences, and even weird occult practices. They are everything that a good negative polarity should have :-)

The good news is that polarities can be and are being collapsed. Please help.

cheers!
gnosis

[Linda]

Originally Posted by Hiram

But as I've stated before on this forum...there is such a thing as being a free an open forum of ideas....and on the other hand allowing people to willfully stray into self-indulgence (by allowing them to drone on an on before a captive audience) and actively mis-leading people.

Should one who is presenting a story, have to provide some very basic substantiating data? If the party can't provide ANY info, then shouldn't the next step be for Bill/Kerry to look at the info an ask themselves if it adds/contributes value to their mission?

Did you not read his emails?

To me it sounds like he is TRYING to provide data.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...t=19907&page=7

snip:

I had already stated to Kerry in a audio interview that you did not know about the fact she was living with us, or that she was extremely scared, as my wife said you need more than facts I already gave to you, now if you did not hear the interview that's fine, but still no excuse for dragging my name through the mud.

snip:

I have
told Kerry I will give you what ever you ask for but not on the internet, I will come to CA and hand it to Kerry if needs be I have her phone numbers, BUT I WILL PROTECT MY FAMILY, you being upset about this won't change my mind and it does not excuse what you have done from the evidence I now have it appears intentionally now if you want to talk skype me, ----- just skype me and talk to me thats all I ask, I am a fighter by trade so if you thought this was going to be easy.. sorry I don't walk away from people and I am not intimidated by you, but if you can call me a liar you had better be able to do it to me because email wont cut it

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but please sykpe me, you owe me that much respect at least whilst people are talking about me, in fact if you wish to give me a time I will make sure I am available to talk to you, I am not a monster or will shout and ball and scream at you, I was angry, now I am just mildley annoyed at this because so much of MY TIME has been clearly wasted on making what I thought were freinds and trying to help a person, you forget that I clearly state ON THE INTERVIEW that the heather material was hers and up to you guys, I only wanted to get my story out, oh yes her story was so unbelievable give me a
break, and my experience yes that is unbelievable I do give you that one, but to say that is to call many others liars too a good percentage of your ground crew at that point, if I were a dis-info guy I would have tuck tail and run by now but I am not I me and rather than censoring me, you should let me have my say.

tell me I am wrong? because you refuse to address my issues rationally or debate them at all, that only tells me that you have nothing to go on but a information I had already made you privy to, which was Heather was with us as stated when those emails were sent, the first few I wrote for her because she was ****ED UP excuse my french, I do or did not EVER deny that, so talk to me on skype and present me with something REAL or reactivate my account and stop slandering my name
All the Best Kinsuemei2

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this is an outrage Bill you have posted comments about me that are untrue and you have disgraced my name, of course the emails were sent from my place again
Dr Anderson was with us, my family we set her up in a motel room, she even used our lap top, I took the names KilaSolai and Kane944 TODAY mind you to try to
reenter Camelot, now I can do this with my new name through a proxy mask, or you can reactivate Kinsuemei2 the choice is yours but make no mistake, I won't be talked about like a dog or have you refuse to answer my emails when you are clearly online here.

Now you missed the part when I told Kerry Cassidey about Dr Anderson staying with us and conveniently left it out of the blog you posted on Avalon... yes of course I read it, I am not stupid, I can mask and change my IP so you clearly must think me a fool... I did not mask my emails because they were sent from my rig of course as I did state in testimony to Kerry, now your assumptions are outrageous and I need more proof, in fact I would very much like to talk to you on skype and you can hear the pain in my wife's voice

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I have no problem with Camelot and shall never tarnish that name, I was upset earlier but you don't know or understand me Mr Ryan, I have a daughter she is
6, I refuse to send anymore of Anderson's info on line, I told Kerry this, and whilst nobody has even bothered to check the location in Orlando, then you have no call on this matter.

snip:
I sincerely wish you the best and to the moderators who were only doing their jobs.
Kinsuemei2
P.S. I shall continue to promote and observe PC in a positive light, because one man makes a mistake that is not reason to protest the good work they have done, and I believe Duncans story and have no ill will towards him, but it's a free world and he can choose to believe what he wishes.

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as I told Kerry in an audio interveiw, Heather was living with us, we put her up so of course she used my computer, and yeah I dictated a few emails once again I stated this in my intaial contact with Kerry that she would not come near the computer so this is a problem right now.

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this sucks as Heathers info again as I stated I gave the meat of it to kerry and if they wanted it great if not who cared my objective was my experience and that was all. and I told kerry this but my interveiw was not released. now I am being censored, bill wont talk to me and I have to use proxys to look at info thats being posted about me, I kind of think the post should be stopped as it is getting into the realms of legality here, tell me if I am wrong?

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I have also made the choice to continue to put out Anderson's work to great risk at this point, now if indeed Bill did do this to actually protect us, that also crossed my mind, as the best way to stop hard info from becoming a danger is to dam it. hence 17 years of David Ickes survival in a nutshell.

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I promised some people in avalon that I will bring the information that I have to light, I have never hidden anything from Bill or Kerry, however I have never spoken to Bill in a one on one capacity, where as I have done so with Kerry many times and as I stated I have the logs to prove that.

No she was not with us when this happened, she had left not that long after, but she did still have a room account with the motel, my manager has said that he will sign an affidavit to this if needs be as the room was in her name, her real name, on record, the card on file was mine so that I paid but it does show that she was a guest, and I have that right now in black and white.

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I mean it's very easy for Bill to drop this and take responsibility, but I have to deal with the fall out of this as now if anything happens to my wife or kids or myself we really have no where to turn to for advice or anything, but as I said in my You-tube vid thank god for some good people.

My main concern is my family as I have stated but , I will get this info out and I shall make sure that you do get to look at it, weather PC will be involved and I highly doubt they will, I shall still give you a look at what we have, but we are working on the distribution of this material.

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We all need to keep an open mind and do some research on THE SUBJECT MATTER because it is VERY important.
Just my 2 cents

[Anchor]

Linda,

thanks for doing this work

A..

[Hiram]

Thanks for the helpful conversation everyone as we flesh this out.

Anchor: You stated above "Again in my opinion - the moderators are not here to judge truth from falsehood (except for the benefit of our personal reading) - in that regard I maintain we are no different from the non-moderators."

I could not agree with you more. Indeed, your role here as a moderator is not to judge truth from falsehood, and thats the philosophical point I was making above. Yet, the subtle caveat to that point is that even though we all set out with the best of intentions, personal preference sets in...inevitably. I think that we have some very sensitive and perceptive souls on here and they are picking up on this preference.

None of us like being biased or judgmental (well some do but we strive to be as unbiased as our biased minds allow.

I think we need to move away from this idea judging new information and approach it more from an evaluative stance. You evaluate it against everything that you know and understand, and decide whether it is right for you. Some may call it a semantic difference but I am certain there is a distinct difference between Judging and Evaluating.

I was also campaigning for the right of Bill and Kerry to to evaluate information as well. I don't always agree with them, but I see which direction the ship is going and I wish to be on board. That is all I have ever wanted from life. To sail inexorably towards that star of truth, wherever it may lie.



I'm sorry for what happened with the Heather material...but we did in fact get to read it. So thats a plus. I think these things tend to work themselves out.

[Hiram]

Originally Posted by Linda

Did you not read his emails?

"To me it sounds like he is TRYING to provide data."

Thanks Linda.

This is very enlightening and I appreciate it. I had not read these. He sounds frustrated, but it makes me wonder what he could have done to get himself banned in the first place?

As you can see, no one really stops anyone from posting as long as they do it in a friendly and respectful manner.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Hiram

Thanks Linda.

This is very enlightening and I appreciate it. I had not read these. He sounds frustrated, but it makes me wonder what he could have done to get himself banned in the first place?

As you can see, no one really stops anyone from posting as long as they do it in a friendly and respectful manner.

Bill Ryan, knowing that they have hoaxers coming at them from every direction, thought Heather JJ Anderson was made up by Kinsuemei2. The reported "death" of Heather (Heather now seems to exist and is not dead, she just tried to disappear herself) after several persons had tried to meet with her but were refused, the emails coming from the same IP, the writings of Kinsu and Heather looking similar and having similar writing style and spelling mistakes, lead Bill to conclude he was dealing with a hoaxer. Anyone hoaxing another person is automatically banned as stated in the forum guidelines.

Bill now admits that this was an erroneous conclusion. Kinsuemei2 is not a hoaxer and Bill should not have named him publicly. The life of Bill and Kerry is far from simple and is filled with complexity, agreements, disagreements, supporters, detractors, hoaxers, truthers and sometimes mistakes. Some of the threads crisscross to weave a picture that falls apart if you find one thread was misplaced. Something bigger goes on here than just the story allegedly told by Heather to Kinsuemei2, and passed on to Bill and Kerry.

[Linda]

Originally Posted by Karen

Some of the threads crisscross to weave a picture that falls apart if you find one thread was misplaced.

Something bigger goes on here than just the story allegedly told by Heather to Kinsuemei2, and passed on to Bill and Kerry.

Hopefully Bill and Kerry will think of us and do the right thing.

We are all in this together and must know the ugly truth before it's too late.

I commend Kinsuemei2 for stepping up to the plate to warn us. He is a hero in my book and I hope that he and his family are safe.
You could only imagine what Heather and him must be going through right this second.
They both need our prayers during these revealing times.

[Christo888]

I can see why Kerry wanted to introduce the story.

Whether the material is a hoax or not I don't know but there is some extremely powerful material embedded within the story that adds credence to the unseen forces of nature at work.

Obviously the military is experimenting with subjects to try to reproduce and enhance these forces of nature within a human body. The failure of the military is that they are trying to force the enhancements of nature into a body that emotionally cannot understand how these forces work and hence total confusion will drive the psyche mad in many ways. Like giving a cup of coffee to a three year old or similar still give them a bottle of pop and watch them go nuts. The secrets of the Universe have built in protection mechanisms so that these forces of nature cannot be used in this way.

Without Truth, knowledge, and understanding partaken through actual life/soul experience by the individual they will basically 'blow' themselves up so-to-speak, as they cannot manage the enhancements or supernatural powers.

The protection mechanism that is built into the labyrinth of Universal power is like a combination lock and must be earned through experience of life to bring understanding in order to unlock those Universal power mechanisms. So when the military forces these mechanisms of enhanced Universal power in individuals it will always backfire, a meltdown every time. Maybe short term gain or results but long term disintegration.

There is only one way to properly unlock the combination of Universal power (this also drove Hitler mad trying to seize it) and that is contained in one of the Egyptian stories, for Universal power can never be stolen and when tried the 'Curse of the Pharaohs' kicks in. And that will forever be the failure of the military's experiments at the cost of many lives in the meantime.

The greed for power of having these enhancements is self destructive... that's why only the meek can inherit it, and that may not mean what many think it means.

[Seafury]

Originally Posted by Hiram

IMO as a scientist, I see nothing wrong with being discerning about what you present. I think the "risk" of losing a really good whistleblower is minimal...basically because the really good ones will have some substantiating info. They will. Plain and simple.

This pretty much sums up the entire issue. I don't need to sift through endless piles of nonsense information with absolutely no backing evidence whatsoever on the pretense of getting a handle on the "big picture" so that I can "discern for myself" as more of the puzzle reveals itself in the form of more endless reams of nonsense information. I'll only be alive for an average of 70 years on this planet.

The scientific method has merit. We're not discounting information out of hand here. We only want the bare minimum of rational thought to enter in when viewing new material. I've seen people showing emails of all kinds in this thread now, telling all kinds of backstory about this case, but guess what, you don't get that by reading the single pdf that's posted on the PC homepage. You get one short PDF with no idea who this person is and extremely important questions/comments posted by Bill that without any kind of answer make the material look completely ridiculous.

Perhaps if information like this is going to be posted on the front page of a website that gets millions of visitors Kerry should think about giving a better overview of whats going on, rather than shouting down Bill and making herself look like a fool to the average visitor.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Seafury

I don't need to sift through endless piles of nonsense information with absolutely no backing evidence whatsoever on the pretense of getting a handle on the "big picture"

There is one way, more or less, a person can discern hoax material from something true.

The truth is often boring, by nature, and the majority of people are putting a big spin on truth, whether it be MSM, disclosure, camelot, etc.

Truth is, people don't wanna be told the truth, they want to be told endless stories with endless plot twists all to make it fictionally interesting and more appealing. Only problem is, the minute you put spin in the equation, it is no longer truth.

Personally, judging from the PDF and with all common sense, the document is poorly written, the source is far less than trustworthy, the existence of "heather" is more than doubtful, and the material doesn't even qualify as good fiction, its that bad. On top of all that, the guy who claims wanting to protect his family more than anything has went out of his way to do just the opposite and attract as much attention.

[lightblue]

dear linda

Hopefully Bill and Kerry will think of us and do the right thing.

We are all in this together and must know the ugly truth before it's too late.

I commend Kinsuemei2 for stepping up to the plate to warn us. He is a hero in my book and I hope that he and his family are safe.
You could only imagine what Heather and him must be going through right this second.
They both need our prayers during these revealing times.

-what's your idea of the "right thing" - what do you think should happen?
-who do you think is "US"? it certainly does not include myself for one..
-in supposing that heather material is true and genuine - how does this knowledge enhance your sense of empowerment? in what ways does it help you? what action would you take personally? being merely alerted and/or fearful does not help very much.
- if this material turns out to be hoaxed - would that fact erode your self-empowerment?

best wishes l

[K626]

It's difficult to comment on that pdf without more detail.

[SteveX]

Quite right Majorion. The more I've read of this fantastic tail (cyborg soldiers. 600 + kidnapped young men, bullet proof pyro guys, 911 connection, reptilians and super soldiers) the more I shake my head at myself for even bothering.

I was fair minded enough to re-read the blank PDF. I still think there's 2 authors involved. There seems to me to be 2 levels of grammar and punctuation.... but no longer think it's 2 stories spliced into one.

As we all know the level of literacy is sub par and not just for a MD/scientist. As a dyslexic (yes folks, I'm dyslexic and I use big words when not rambling on) I recognise certain grammatical spelling errors associated with using Word spell checker. I use it on nearly ever post. That PDF shows all the hallmarks. Spell checker won't flag the difference of shortened words i.e. defence & defences. There are quite a few short words here. OK no big deal because its only spelling / grammatical error. Then there are spelling mistakes, which you'll see if you transfer it to a Word. I don't, as a dyslexic, often pick up on spelling mistakes by others.

This literacy thing gave me some questions that needed answering. So I looked at the quoted e-mails above and a post by Kinsue (below). His level of grammar looks better than the PDF.

Can't be bothered to see if Kinsue uses the same phrases or words as the PDF. He just writes better in my opinion.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17244

Then we have this whole Shunger quote in the PDF, which I find very damming (spelling?) and I quote

"Project Ember
The following is straight from the log of Shunger"

What the heck is it with the powers that be? Do they only recruit scientist with basic level of written English. All those quotes from a supposedly different guy are just as bad as the PDF.

As a side bar. Another quote "once at my destination I shall send these CDS to you, we have made copies and Ben is going to send his CDs on Friday so that if mine do not make it his surely will." I would be fascinated if this did indeed happen. If so, which ones turned up and what where the post marks? Please don’t tell me only 1 turned up from Kinsue.

Also, the only safe computer is one not plugged into the Internet. So blasting e-mails around is really asking for it if there was an ounce of truth to any of it.

EDIT PS this'll be funny as hell if its a set up by disobedient hounds.