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I sent the article to a scientist friend of mine whom I respect, and this is what she sent me: "Here is where she should not have entered in speculation. I know from working at Naval Research center, we did not have, nor did the Nazis have the technology in the 1940s in electronics, metallurgy, and solid fuel advancement for a clean extensive burn, let alone reentry technology.
Mars is impossible as it is to far away and again propulsion to and from, electronics etc. as well as the enormous radioactive surface. In 1940s or even in the 60s, propulsion necessary for an 8 month flight to Mars, propulsion to slow down or be launched into space as you approach Mars, and then the propulsion to leave mars for a 8 months return and then slow down for earth landing. The size of the craft must hold oxygen, water, food, etc for a 2 year journey at current propulsion capabilities. It would have and still is impossible. See http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Smars1.htm. 2 years of weightlessness for the human body is deadly, let alone the stress on the human consciousness." I am not saying she is correct, yet wanted to share her perspective. Of course, she may not have been privy to the secret technologies used by the secret space programs. Last edited by redtailhawk; 02-16-2010 at 07:19 PM. |
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is this not be big enough news to make it to the mainstream media? i know if it's being controlled then they wouldn't want this getting out but this seems like a big story, a presidents granddaughter and all, wouldn't they report it?
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I have tried to get even basic background on this from Laura and Alfred. For example Laura being an Eisenhower. I've not been able to find her name on any Family tree for Eisenhower. When I confronted the both of them on this, Laura said she could produce a birth certificate, but never did and then removed/blocked me on facebook. Alfred said he knew Laura's mother personally, but would not volunteer her mother's name to verify even that small part of her story.
On top of this, her story offers nothing other than information that any could have known before hand. To me the entire article looks like a justification for the apparent abuse Laura has suffered at the hands of men throughout her life. Even in the article trying to explain the abuse she suffered while she was sleeping with "agent x" he blamed it on a microchip inside of him that caused multiple personality disorders. Laura seems delusional, in need of serious mental help. She seems to have latched on to stories she's read from other people, made them her own, and when questioned on the validity of any of it, she gets violent and offensive threatening me with various forms of harm that I dismiss, but the fact remains, she is delusional, and Alfred can not afford for her to be found discredited because it will ruin his own credibility. With the reaction I've gotten from Laura and Alfred I've been searching through website after website reading comment after comment and trying to find any real corroboration with the story other than "her story sounds plausible because it sounds like other stories that Alfred has a vested interest in keeping true". I do not doubt that any of this technology exists, but I doubt any of Laura's involvement on it, and hope she gets help. |
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Ouch! Michael. Pretty harsh statement. Why would she declare she's an Eisenhower if she's not? If that alone proves false, the rest of the story has no credibility at all. To say your a decendent of a President to create credibility..and not be..starts a delusional path from the git-go.
I "wish" you are wrong and she's an Eisenhower. But if theres no verification,how come she's saying it? My brain hurts. |
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I don't know about this girl but she offers services in her website and she is quite expensive A name can be worth a lot of money in this planet where people does not read energy! I think Michael may sound harsh but researching is paramount these days, taking things at face value has not serve the world for what we can observe Love |
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It might sound like a nit picky thing, but the reaction for Alfred and Laura on this topic is destroying the credibility of the rest of it. By the way you can find the Grand-Children of Eisenhower online: http://www.kansasheritage.org/abilene/ikedoud.html Quote:
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If she is credible and has just come out, then she will provide the documentation to prove it. She must do this in order to be taken seriously. However, i took something very valuable from her story regardless of who she is...
As a woman on the planet, her story will resonate for each of us as WE ALL are the daughters and sons of Gaia. ALL. In this way, the story of her journey and the energies that she has been battling to bring herself back into balance with the planet is VERY FAMILIAR and speaks to each one of us on a deeper level. Regardless of who she really is, and her story is beautiful on it's own without her having to say she is related to Ike, it is the story we have all been living to one extreme or another. I found it to be too vague in terms of solid information, but very rich in emotional textures and a descriptive tapestry in terms of its value as the story of a woman finding herself and reconnecting to her source. In so far as Mars, well as one book says... women come from Venus and men come from Mars. I believe her rich understanding of the archetypal and Iconic may have, in this case, gotten the better of her imagination while being in another destructive relationship with a man who has creatively deceived her and has MPD. A any rate, that obvious connection was not lost on me. In truth I felt in the story was directly related to energy, and the use of energy to control people in various ways. Emotionally, as a part of an alien agenda, TPTB... etc. These things I believe DO exist. There is truth in that we must all be aware of how we use our energy and it is good policy as autonomous beings to use our energy in alignment with the Mother Planet. Being a reader of Gnosis myself, I am a fan of Magdelane's message and her gospel. There is a great deal of her in all of us to be sure. From the Heart, Wormhole |
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Susan Eisenhower On Family: Ten Frequently Asked Questions 1. How are you related to President Dwight Eisenhower? I am a granddaughter. 2. Who is your father? My father is John S.D. Eisenhower, a retired army general, former Ambassador to Belgium and military historian, and he was Ike and Mamie Eisenhower’s only surviving child. Their first child was a son named Doud Dwight, who died at the age of three. 3. Who is your mother? Barbara Thompson Eisenhower (now Barbara Foltz). She too came from an Army family. 4. Do you have any siblings? Yes. I am the third of four children. I have an older brother, Dwight David Eisenhower II (David); Barbara Anne (Anne) and a younger sister, Mary Jean (Mary). 5. Do you remember your grandparents? Yes very well. I was almost eighteen years old when my grandfather died and nearly twenty-eight when my grandmother passed away. For many years we lived on a farm adjacent to theirs in Gettysburg Pennsylvania. I rode my grandfather’s horses. 6. Do you have children of your own? Yes. I have three daughters: Caroline, Laura and Amy. |
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