"Super Bowl Sunday: Scientifically Crafted Mass Mental Illness"

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Moxie

PS: the word that was censored above was KRAP< can you believe that???

No I can't. I attempt to use it frequently. I have protested this being in the profanity filter - oh probably 5 times. I'm going to do so again, and squawk until it is taken out or I get a good reason why not.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Karen

No I can't. I attempt to use it frequently. I have protested this being in the profanity filter - oh probably 5 times. I'm going to do so again, and squawk until it is taken out or I get a good reason why not.

I have marveled over it, too.

It happens to me when I quote Stewart Swerdlow on his expression "New Age ****"!

[Instead]

Question: What's the difference between watching the Superbowl if that's what you enjoy and going to the opera, if that's more your speed?

What would the reaction be if a thread blasted individuals that went to the opera, citing that it was a complete waste of time and had zero spiritual redeeming value?

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Instead

Question: What's the difference between watching the Superbowl if that's what you enjoy and going to the opera, if that's more your speed?

What would the reaction be if a thread blasted individuals that went to the opera, citing that it was a complete waste of time and had zero spiritual redeeming value?

There is a long reply and a short one to this. I will opt for the short one. Before I do, Thanks Seashore, great post.

Let us look at the 2 variables you have given, super bowl vs opera.
Hmmm, one is filled with manic people who have to display their clours supporting their chosen gladiators and the other is fille with people dressed in their gladiatorial uniform of choice, usually evening wear.

Let us now look at the impact these have on the people who prevail at such venues. Superbowl first.
You have thousands (apparently over a 100 000 at the superbowl?) all pumped up with adrenalin screaming in orgiastic euphoria at a bunch of jerks in tight pants and helmets with shoulder pads and safety gear scientifically designed for the visual affect more than the safety aspect. The whole scene is carefully crafted , again scientifically, to mimic men at war in an arena reminiscent of the "good old days" in rome. Nothing is by chance, it is not a game, it is a total mind blast (use the F word for "blast) and it has the desired effect. Huge money is made out of this fiasco and the arguments rage for a year till the next designed orgasm for the masses. I think you get my point.

Opera.
This is VERY different. Not really my cup of tea but I understand why it is a favourite for the afficionados.
The auditorium is hushed, no one dare cough, or break wind for fear of ruining the ambiance. The thing is this. We are light beings and light emanates at a vibrational level. Music is a vibrational expression of passion, true gifted ability and comes from lovingly crafted instruments and voices that take many many years of training to perfect. The connection is at the vibrational level. They wouldn't play opera at the bowl, that is the domain of rock music (I imagine?). The spiritual experience at an opera concert is unique as you are lifted vibrationally up through your chakras to be one with the expression being delivered from the stage.

Superbowl = Frenzy = Dumbing Down
Opera = Upliftment = Enlightenment

There can NEVER be a comparison between classical music and physical sport.

Thats enough, you get what I am saying.

Last point. It matters not who posts this, wether it be Alex Jones or Alex in Wonderland, the point is valid.

LL&P

Z

[Instead]

Wow Zeddo, I woke up this morning and read the last few pages of "Becoming" from the Handbook for the New Paradigm series, added more spiritual growth MP3's to my Zune and now I'm reading the Avalon forum while watching the SB with my daughter and doing push-ups with her each time a team scores. (Up to 95. whew)

I'm in jeans and a dress shirt (No team jersey) and I'm not drinking anything alcoholic.

Tell me more about the person I am because I am watching the Superbowl?

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Instead

Wow Zeddo, I woke up this morning and read the last few pages of "Becoming" from the Handbook for the New Paradigm series, added more spiritual growth MP3's to my Zune and now I'm reading the Avalon forum while watching the SB with my daughter and doing push-ups with her each time a team scores. (Up to 95. whew)

I'm in jeans and a dress shirt (No team jersey) and I'm not drinking anything alcoholic.
Tell me more about the person I am because I am watching the Superbowl?

Ahhhh, it is quite the challenge to express our opposing opinions without insulting the "other side." Can it be done? I don't know. By leaving out the more descriptive and colorful adjectives, you can reduce the sting of a piece of written opinion. I often try to do it that way. The first impulse for some, and for me, is to add a bunch of colorful adjectives ... but then I read through a few times, and if I'm thinking about the "other side" I edit them out. I found the Zeddo reply to be colorfully humorous, but put myself in the shoes of a sports fan - and it's not ... unless for some reason it strikes your funny bone too.

How do we get along yet express our different selves?

[Phtha]

If they glamorized and advertized opera with the exact same methods that they do football, then the masses would be huddled around their TV's every Super Vocal Sunday watching opera.
If they sold ballet dancing with sex, drugs, and other tempations the way they do murder music in the US then the masses would be wearing pink tutus rather then baseball caps.
This has been proven in other cult-ures. Americans like football cuz its what they are fed. Canadians prefer Hockey cuz its what they are fed. Italy prefers soccer cuz its what they are fed. Australia cricket? France Opera? India yoga? China martial arts? We can also go back in time and see all sorts of different sports or events that were big cuz... its what they were fed. These are of course generalizations but I hope it makes the point.

And I think that is the point of the article. They can make people buy into anything they want to using perfected manipulation techniques.

Originally Posted by Instead

Wow Zeddo, I woke up this morning and read the last few pages of "Becoming" from the Handbook for the New Paradigm series, added more spiritual growth MP3's to my Zune and now I'm reading the Avalon forum while watching the SB with my daughter and doing push-ups with her each time a team scores. (Up to 95. whew)

I'm in jeans and a dress shirt (No team jersey) and I'm not drinking anything alcoholic.

Tell me more about the person I am because I am watching the Superbowl?

[Humble Janitor]

Alex Jones has lost all credibility that he once had and personally, I never thought he had any.

Regardless, he still makes a good point. I didn't watch the Super Farce because I detest football and everything it stands for.

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

Hmmm, one is filled with manic people......


all pumped up with adrenalin screaming in orgiastic euphoria at a bunch of jerks in tight pants and helmets with shoulder pads.....

That's alot of people to stereotype, although I guess that's how sterotypes work. I can forgive you for supporting these streotypes if you've never played football, or have little exposure to it. I played american football for about 8 years and I can confirm that this "meathead" stereotype is applicable to a few who tend to be very loud and sometimes that alone can make them high profile. It's a bummer that these are the people who dominate the headlines, because there are a hundred smart, kind, humble players for every Terell Owens. For the majority of people who are fans or players, they are simply finding an outlet for their athleticism and competetive nature.

I know that for me as a kid, I liked to hit people (tackle), I never wanted to hurt anyone, but for some reason I was just good at running someone down, it was fun, and football was perfect. I'm glad it was an option for me although I did outgrow it.

The NFL is definitely a corporation though, and like many corporations they are indeed guilty of corrupting the original product, but that doesn't mean that everyone who likes football subscribes to the same standards of the corporation.

Originally Posted by Zeddo

Superbowl = Frenzy = Dumbing Down

Not necessarily, basically another stereotype. There's a very cerebral chess like aspect to the game that is extremely complex and completely unseen by the casual observer.

Originally Posted by Zeddo

There can NEVER be a comparison between classical music and physical sport.

I disagree. Both can be beautiful. I certainly subscribe to the idea that beauty is subjective, but I defy you () to tell me that this is not beautiful....



0:55 ..... beauty

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by raulduke

That's alot of people to stereotype,.
, basically another stereotype.

methinks i am being stereotyped as a serial stereotyper......if the stereotype fits, wear it.

Originally Posted by raulduke

I defy you () to tell me that this is not beautiful....

THAT IS NOT BEAUTIFUL.....but then, whatever spins your wheels eh.

Originally Posted by Karen

Ahhhh, it is quite the challenge to express our opposing opinions without insulting the "other side."

too true, too true Karen

Originally Posted by Instead

Wow Zeddo, I woke up this morning and read the last few pages of "Becoming" from the Handbook for the New Paradigm series, added more spiritual growth MP3's to my Zune and now I'm reading the Avalon forum while watching the SB with my daughter and doing push-ups with her each time a team scores. (Up to 95. whew)

I'm in jeans and a dress shirt (No team jersey) and I'm not drinking anything alcoholic.

Tell me more about the person I am because I am watching the Superbowl?

Oh wow, I am SO IMPRESSED, MY HERO !!!
Seriously, why do you take some ones opinion which goes against yours so personally? Do you feel threatened, judging by your response you have a need for credibility as both a spiritual and physical person. Wassup man? You really need to chill out. Go watch a game, it will relax you.

Oh yes, do me a favour and actually READ what I wrote, do not SURMISE that you did. Now rant all you want, I shant be popping my head back into this thread.

Oh HJ, you were supposed to be in this multi quote....

WHAT? He has lost all credibility but makes a valid point? Did you read that before you posted it?

I'm outta here before I get shot.

[Karen]

OK - back to on topic, which is why I clicked on the thread to begin with, before I said oh cr@p and went off on another long side-trip ...

"Scientifically Crafted Mass Mental Illness" - Yes, I do totally agree. It has been many years since I read "The Protocols of the (Learned) Elders of Zion"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pro...Elders_of_Zion
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/protocols/
now believed by many to be a hoax. I think the only part that is the hoax is who is being blamed for drawing up the protocols against whom, as it is a quite accurate picture of our world today.

From: http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/pr.../prtcl_13.html
PROTOCOL XIII-Distractions
The need for daily bread. Questions of the Political. Questions of industry. Amusements. People's Palaces. "Truth is One." The great problems.

In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about we further distract them with amusements, games, pastimes, passions, people's palaces. . . Soon we shall begin through the press to propose competitions in art, in sport of all kinds: these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them. Growing more and more disaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we, because we alone shall be offering them new directions for thought of course through such persons as will not be suspected of solidarity with us.

My X was a sports nut, with the TV running sports nut competitions all the time. To this day I cannot stand the sound of crazed screaming crowds, with the announcer talking over the top of them. It makes family gatherings on Holiday/sports day very unpleasant for me. So few see the con of the induced mass insanity - not meaning to insult any sports fans here ... we are each on our own path ... There is no sound I love more than silence - Maybe I am from Andromeda!