Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Carol

Hoaxing what? Given some of what he shared I think we need to know what evidence there is against him and exactly what was hoaxed.

I agree if there was "mis information"..we should know..

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Céline

I agree if there was "mis information"..we should know..

The dude was giving people the impression that truth were lies, and lies were truth. In my own honest opinion.

People should not give their opinion on something they know nothing about, and he done that some. Condemnation without investigation is the absolute height of ignorance, another reason why we live in such an age of distrustful ignorance.

My story is unbelievable, but I experienced it so have others around me, anybody who thinks its bogus can kiss my ass as I don't really care, I don't believe a word DW says as he packaged all his info in the same way for the 2000 ascension that never came, so now he is simply re doing the same **** he was marketing ten years ago, the rest are interesting but unless I experience what they do, we shall have to wait and see, one fact I do know is that if you are privy to top secret information the government will kill you if you try to go public with it, Project Camelot having the info or part of it does not make you safe in anyway.
I recently lost Dr Heather JJ Anderson and her story will now not get out as people around her and who have helped her are legitimately dead, not in "Another Realm" as Kerry Cassidey has asked me about and her info did exist as I was also grilled over, I wonder if he ever did grill DW about that RA ****

For a start, that whole paragraph right there leads people to believe that what David Wilcock is sharing about an evolution in consciousness is bullcrap.

Bullcrap it might be if it were not for the enormous amount of information that backs up what David is saying extremely well. The truth needs not lies to prop itself up, and the same is certainly true for this. One persons "opinion" can lead to thousands of peoples ignorance, and now is not the time for invalid opinions. If someone does not know what their talking about then for the respect of their brothers and sisters, the rest of humanity, they should keep their lips pressed tightly together and their ears sprung open.



So what’s so bad about someone sharing their opinion you say?

One passionate person preaching the wrong message can do more harm then a pocket full of scorpions. If people want humanity out of the mess its in (which some obviously don’t) then they better learn to keep those pretty little lips sealed unless they know what their talking about and can provide all of the substantial evidence to support such claims. Were not looking for the moon on a plate here, just somethin we can get our mouths around.



You'll have to excuse my passionate take on this, but i hate liars. Especially when they make out the people who are telling the truth to be complete lunatics or the famous "money grabbin charlaten"

Mod edit by Uncle John to delete curse word. BTW, Jack, I hate them too.

[burgundia]

I am glad I didn't read his posts....

[K626]

Originally Posted by Jack

The dude was giving people the impression that truth were lies, and lies were truth. In my own honest opinion.
People should not give their opinion on something they know nothing about, and he done that some. Condemnation without investigation is the absolute height of ignorance, another reason why we live in such an age of distrustful ignorance.
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Humanity isn't in a mess. Only a tiny fraction of it.

[mntruthseeker]

I cant believe how this is playing out.

First of all Jack, I agree with what Kinsuemie2 had to say about DW

So I guess you have something now to say about me.

I could care less.................I am only in here to read the postings now and to heck with trying to say anything as I can see that it is "disected " very well unless of course you are one that goes along with everyone else

I want to say that no one has facts that Kinsuemei was lying.....its based on their opinion. Prove he was lying before you start calling him one.

As far as DW goes..................I wouldn't say he was full of it because most of what he says comes from other people. He studies online just like any good seeker would. Is he always right ? NO

Does he get banned for saying sexist remarks or his sexist actions ? NO

So like I said, those that judge Kinsuemei2 are not doing it on facts.

I dont care how many people say congrats to the mods.......I say a mod stepped over the line...............so ban me now for being honest.

DW's actions are on video so I know he has made the sexist remarks.......Another person came forward with what she seen and I find it very distastefull but I'm not surprised.

So I think it takes alot of guts to call someone a liar without facts.

Like Anchor says, many people can use the same IP # but I did a search on Kimsuemei2 and his is a private residence.......One that others on same line can use. IP# is your direct link to internet. A corporation may use many or what Anchor describes as a proxy server

So unless anyone has solid proof that he lied about something, I would be very careful about insinuating anything.


I am through with P/A...........its gotten to be nothing more than a place that points fingers without justification

Oh yeah, I remember having this sort of thing happened in grade school

No I will not say good job on investigating to anyone. I will say......Who are you to judge ?

Not one person in this forum and I dont care who you are has a right to judge another.

[SteveX]

Mrtruthseeker, forgive me if I'm wrong but I get the impression you haven't read every reply in the whole thread.... especially the one from Bill.

They got a hunch he was spinning a yarn in private e-mails to Bill and Kerry. Once that hunch was acted upon the banned fellows story fell apart. So much so that he said a star witness just got killed in a car crash another witness escaped by boat and the fellow had no less than 4 ID's here.... It's all in this thread.

If, on the other hand you have read Bills explanation I think it unreasonable of you to think because Bill hasn't seen, for want of a better word, the body... then he shouldn't presume.

If it qwaks like a duck, walks like a duck...then more than likely it is a duck.

[Céline]

i vote this thread be closed...

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I cant believe how this is playing out.
First of all Jack, I agree with what Kinsuemie2 had to say about DW
So I guess you have something now to say about me.
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Sorry not done Yet Celine

I traced that IP a little farther down the line......Looks like a Long term living hotel.

I could have 100 rooms and they would all look like the same IP if I traced them....

Not fueling any fires...trying to be fair here

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Sorry not done Yet Celine
Not fueling any fires...trying to be fair here

No apology needed..but i doubt there is anything productive in continuing this thread.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Céline

No apology needed..but i doubt there is anything productive in continuing this thread.

If someone accused me of being deceitful....I would hope folks would look a little deeper for some truth.

Isn't that why we are here?

Peace Y'all

[Céline]

i am certain Bill and the mods investigated this thoroughly

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Céline

i am certain Bill and the mods investigated this thoroughly

I have a lifetime in IT (techy stuff)....there are sites and programs that feed us back generalities....from there we have to infer.....SG

[Malletzky]

I wouldn't over/underestimate the IP issue here. WHy? Well, maybe this story will clarify some things, for the one that don't get this IP issue...

Some 8-9 years back, when I was a completely novice regarding internet in any possible mean, a friend of mine gave me a CD with a "very special program" as he said. It was a small program, which enabled the user to get any desired IP from anywhere in the world...even in a second tact. You know what this mean? That program just assigned another IP to my PC each and every second and if you would be on to trace me, you could think that I am on a different corner of this planet every other minute.

"Unfortunately", back then my PC was pretty slow, some 800 mhz Intel processor and 64 mb DDRAM main storage...so you can imagine that this program just took almost all free resources and I had to dismiss it.

There are some free and very good programms on the net avaliable now...if any of you just feel scared that your pc might be monitored

I totaly agree that everyone using multiple "personalities" here on this forum should be baned...forever. !!! So well done here!

with respect
malletzky

[Harry_CDN]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

I wouldn't over/underestimate the IP issue here. WHy? Well, maybe this story will clarify some things, for the one that don't get this IP issue...

Some 8-9 years back, when I was a completely novice regarding internet in any possible mean, a friend of mine gave me a CD with a "very special program" as he said. It was a small program, which enabled the user to get any desired IP from anywhere in the world...even in a second tact. You know what this mean? That program just assigned another IP to my PC each and every second and if you would be on to trace me, you could think that I am on a different corner of this planet every other minute.

"Unfortunately", back then my PC was pretty slow, some 800 mhz Intel processor and 64 mb DDRAM main storage...so you can imagine that this program just took almost all free resources and I had to dismiss it.

There are some free and very good programms on the net avaliable now...if any of you just feel scared that your pc might be monitored

I totaly agree that everyone using multiple "personalities" here on this forum should be baned...forever. !!! So well done here!

with respect
malletzky

I find the IP changer concept very interesting but it raises more questions.

1. Static IPs handed out by any ISP must belong to them. Therefore, even if you keep switching IPs wouldn't the lookup not point back to the owner of the IP block?

2. If you use a 3rd party company beyond your ISP, then wouldn't the IPs belong to that company(3rd party)?

3. Most ISPs are now using DHCP for customer IPs, this means the server hands you an IP for a leased period of time. ie maybe a week After that period, the server will issue another IP from its pool for another leased period of time?

[TRANCOSO]

PA is the only forum of sorts with an avarage 90 - 100 members online, apart from the 250 - 300 guests.
I'm actually amazed about the few trolls there are, since it became a 'free' forum again.

I've had an argument with the moderators once, and I can assure you that you really have to f#ck things up, to get banned.

Even when we disagree, we are quite friendly towards eachother, which isn't always easy.

I like PA more than a lot because of that.

If real life society was like PA, the world would be better off than it is now.

The fact that the moderators joined the discussion on this thread, says enough.

We, as members, are Project Avalon, and we should keep in mind that we can be an example for the rest of the world, how things can be.

[morguana]

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

PA is the only forum of sorts with an avarage 90 - 100 members online, apart from the 250 - 300 guests.
I'm actually amazed about the few trolls there are, since it became a 'free' forum again.

I've had an argument with the moderators once, and I can assure you that you really have to f#ck things up, to get banned.

Even when we disagree, we are quite friendly towards eachother, which isn't always easy.

I like PA more than a lot because of that.

If real life society was like PA, the world would be better off than it is now.

The fact that the moderators joined the discussion on this thread, says enough.

We, as members, are Project Avalon, and we should keep in mind that we can be an example for the rest of the world, how things can be.

thank you transco for your supportive words, and yes we try every other avenue before anyone has their subscription deactivated. we dont like to ban folk, but sometimes for the integrity of the forum we do have to unfortunatly take action. i would rather that folk were honest and compassionate towards each other and able to self moderate.....but sometimes that doesnt happen . sometimes we just get a few folk who are out to cause trouble and that is not conducive to the over all energy of this special place.......
i became a mod to help out because i love this place, i care greatly for folk here and not to ban or delete threads (but sometimes it has to be done).

love to you all
m x

[Phtha]

The trolls cant handle the strong love trills that thrill the air here.
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Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

PA is the only forum of sorts with an avarage 90 - 100 members online, apart from the 250 - 300 guests.
I'm actually amazed about the few trolls there are, since it became a 'free' forum again.

[burgundia]

The thing about Franciejones makes me think...

[gibonos]

@carol

That being said, my view is that electronic emails belong to the receiver of the email not the sender,

Totally disagree!!
It's like saying someone told you a secret (in person) and from that moment it's yours to do whatever you want with it. If it's pm it's between 2 people.
I guess bill posted evidence here to cut speculation, btw it's a different ball game when you post and get banned than get banned and proof is shown.

gibonos

[Ammit]

I fully understand that something was said or done to have this chap/chapess banned, I dont believe any real details should be disclosed to backup a reason for it.

Nor do I believe that Bill should have displayed details as he did. I know it was probably done to quiet the apparent anger here but, personal details no matter what they are should remain private.

However what is done, is done...

Lets hope no more private information gets disclosed by anyone, visitor, member or founder as this would only lead to a distrust situation.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Ammit

I fully understand that something was said or done to have this chap/chapess banned, I dont believe any real details should be disclosed to backup a reason for it.

Nor do I believe that Bill should have displayed details as he did. I know it was probably done to quiet the apparent anger here but, personal details no matter what they are should remain private.

However what is done, is done...

Lets hope no more private information gets disclosed by anyone, visitor, member or founder as this would only lead to a distrust situation.

I agree to a point Ammit.......Info was displayed to damn someone....not to exonerate.

We are a paranoid bunch...or we would not be here.

I've had folks reveal things to me and I go ...TMI !!!!!!!!!!!

I guess in the end.....We have to follow along with what the owner wants and believe what we are told.

It's a hard pill to swallow here and elsewhere

Peace

[seeingterra]

Lol mods, I get the PM rule, but the post you deleted was actually something kinsuemei2 gave me for publishing, and does in fact have a copy on PLW, should I rather quote from there then instead of the PM who got the exact same message?

Just wondering..

[TruthWillSetUFree]

IMO when a person INTENTIONALLY goes to such great lengths of being deceitful and dishonest he/she has forfeited their right to their privacy, in this instance their IP addresses.

If you are presenting yourself honestly here one should have nothing to hide or be dishonest about

I think the new paradigm is about situational ethics instead of the old paradigm of being black or white.

What may be valid in one instance may not be in a similar one and should be evaluated in a case by case basis.

I think this is what was done here with mr can sue me too..LOL that was a good one, as all aspects of his behavior were considered before banning


Truth

[Juno]

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

IMO when a person INTENTIONALLY goes to such great lengths of being deceitful and dishonest he/she has forfeited their right to their privacy, in this instance their IP addresses.

If you are presenting yourself honestly here one should have nothing to hide or be dishonest about

no no no no no....

if you know anything about computer security, an IP address is akin to a physical street address. it is the address of that person's computer. any pre-teen with a freeware port scanner can figure out how to get inside.

BILL knows this...

so...

it is like BILL saying 'i have determined this guy to be no good, he lives at 123 main st, anytown USA, go to his house, rattle his doors and windows, see which is unlocked and mess with him'.

so again...

WHY would BILL do this?

sticking with my earlier assessment....

it's a setup. the house is booby-trapped. also known as a honeypot in IT circles.

proceed at your own risk.

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Juno

SNIPPED
so again...
WHY would BILL do this?
sticking with my earlier assessment....
it's a setup. the house is booby-trapped. also known as a honeypot in IT circles.
proceed at your own risk.

So...err let me think.

Bill has concocted a whole factious elaborate scenario to have people go to one particular computer.... for?

The banned guy deliberately got himself banned in the hope Bill would publish the IP so he could hack all computers going to his computer?

Your logic is unsound. Your motives are unclear. I am tempted to speculate but I don't have access to critical information