CLIFF HIGH taking a skeptical look at whistleblowers and questions camelot AGAIN!

[eleni]

Originally Posted by TraineeHuman

As far as I understand, Cliff High's whole argument that time travel doesn't exist is based on the fact that "time doesn't exist". I agree that strictly speaking, the only time that really exists is the eternal now.

However, Cliff's argument seems to be that because we can only be in the eternal now, therefore we can never move to or experience any moment in the future. This is based on the idea that "the future" must ultimately be a meaningless concept, since only "the now" is meaningful, according to Cliff.

However, in whatever sense "the future" isn't a totally meaningless concept, Cliff's argument simply doesn't apply, and therefore doesn't work.

(This isn't the only valid simple criticism that I believe can be made of Cliff's argument, but I'll leave it there for now.)

Yes, and tell me why does Clif put out future reports in the first place if that is his conclusion.....

I do however agree that we need to be careful in taking many of the whistleblowers words too seriously.....

I don't agree on his time travel conclusion- say he is correct though- would it not still be possible to visit quantum realms that have previously existed and will exist but not involve time travel per se? Maybe the wording it incorrect when it comes to time travel and much like journeying on sacred plants it's accessing realms not available in 3d consciousness.

[sammytray]

hmmm i believe alot of things dont exist YET... I think times for new are very, very near. Be ready humanity, some marvelous changes are already begining.

Originally Posted by eleni

Yes, and tell me why does Clif put out future reports in the first place if that is his conclusion.....

I do however agree that we need to be careful in taking many of the whistleblowers words too seriously.....

I don't agree on his time travel conclusion- say he is correct though- would it not still be possible to visit quantum realms that have previously existed and will exist but not involve time travel per se? Maybe the wording it incorrect when it comes to time travel and much like journeying on sacred plants it's accessing realms not available in 3d consciousness.

[sammytray]

Cliff High's information goes along with most others... Outlook not so good at this point in time.