Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?)

mntruthseeker · 01-19-2010, 09:44 PM

Proves to me what liars and great manipulators they all are

My favorite part was they will not hold original sin...........

JudgeMental · 01-19-2010, 11:38 PM

I still would be curious to read the Vatican newspaper article "Aliens Are My Brother". If I could find it.

Mercuriel · 01-20-2010, 12:38 AM

While this is kind of Old News - Lets not forget what this means and understand the gravity of It.

For Hundreds if not Thousands of Years - Those Who've talked about those above have either been branded Lunatic, Troublemaker, Heretic or Dangerous...

Many have died in keeping this Info out of the Mainsteam so understand this please...

For the Vatican to finally say that ETs are God's Children too means the fall of 2000 Years of Dogma. Thats Epic and does not come out for no reason at all. They are not just trying to be safe...

We're being prepared on purpose...

Another Vatican doozy if You were unawares is the admonition by Pope John Paul II, that there is no Hell except that which You create for Yourself by Your own Thoughts and Guilt over Them...

EPIC...

illuminate · 01-20-2010, 12:46 AM

having been forced to ingest way too much catholicism as a child,
I must admit that I can't wait for the vatican to publicly eat
the truth... but all I really want is one of their library cards!!!

~ one love ~

lindabaker · 01-20-2010, 12:47 AM

Mercurial: You are absolutely right about the enormity of these statements. If you look at the long view of the Vatican's stance on things, these admissions are a huge turnaround. Linda

Majorion · 01-20-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriel

We're being prepared on purpose...

Yes we are being prepared, albeit, very very slowly.

Frankly, I don't care about waiting for some disclosure from the same people who have been suppressing the truth for decades if not centuries. They can keep their lies to themselves, I don't expect any major announcement within the next 50 years.

On the other hand, science, will confirm extraterrestrial life, primitive and/or microbial ET life in the next 10 years or so, and thats what the vatican is preparing for, thats why they are playing politics right now. They don't want to lose control over their followers, thats why Catholicism is embracing alien life, they know they have to do it.

haibane · 01-20-2010, 03:23 AM

I'd say they're just securing their power in case one of the main pillars of the dogma crumbles to bits ... They don't want to look like complete idiots if teh mothership lands on the Vatican lawn. My 2 cents, anyway : )

enemyofNWO · 01-20-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haibane

I'd say they're just securing their power in case one of the main pillars of the dogma crumbles to bits ... They don't want to look like complete idiots if teh mothership lands on the Vatican lawn. My 2 cents, anyway : )

Considering that a representative of the Vatican was present at the signing of the treaty between the US and an " alien race " in February 1954 the admission of an alien possibility is a small concession to reality .
According to author William Cooper
" The papal representative was Catholic Bishop MacIntyre of Los Angeles . "
This from page 202 of William Cooper's " Behold a pale horse " .
So this statement about the existence of the aliens is just like having a bet each way ....
With the history of fascist control mentality of the church it is likely that this change has been forced on the Vatican . Their survival is at stake .

mntruthseeker · 01-20-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enemyofNWO

Considering that a representative of the Vatican was present at the signing of the treaty between the US and an " alien race " in February 1954 the admission of an alien possibility is a small concession to reality .
According to author William Cooper
" The papal representative was Catholic Bishop MacIntyre of Los Angeles . "
This from page 202 of William Cooper's " Behold a pale horse " .
So this statement about the existence of the aliens is just like having a bet each way ....
With the history of fascist control mentality of the church it is likely that this change has been forced on the Vatican . Their survival is at stake .

Who do you think forced this on the Vatican ?

The Black Pope runs the Vatican and we all know who he is Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, the General of the International Military Order of the Society of Jesus, commonly known as “the Black Pope

This is not a force but part of their initial plan of what is to be. things are moving along just fine.

Peace of mind · 01-20-2010, 03:40 PM

The only interest I have concerning the Vatican is the secrets hidden underneath it. All original scriptures and artifacts should be left public not stored away so the truth can be fabricated. Once I realized that people actually kisses a ring on the popes hand (as if he is God) I lost the little respect I had for this conglomerate.

Peace

enemyofNWO · 01-20-2010, 04:56 PM

"Who do you think forced this on the Vatican ? "

Just events like partial disclosure about UFO and ET . More people becoming aware about those things . A possible disclosure and public revelation of ET would ignite a lot of philosophical questions about the " Christ " .
Ignoring the possibility of "existence " of ET could prove damaging later ..
From my point of view it would be more important to recognize equal civil rights to aliens of any type . It must be remembered that the Vatican has one or more astronomic observatory and it has been an active accomplice of the PTB' s suppression of information for a long time . Consideration about the negative effects of disclosure on society , religions , economy and social order were used from the very beginning by the US as an excuse to keep the secrecy and continue it . The Vatican rulers must have a pretty good idea of what is our possible future . Besides that ,even here in Italy , it is known that the seminaries are empty and the average age of priests is over 50 year . All of those things point to a global " awareness " about the traps of organized religion . My crystal ball makes me think that in 50 years the churches could be relegated to the garbage bin of history by a combination of future events .

Regarding the secrets of the Vatican library I think it is a scandal that so much information has been locked up for so long . Again another egregious example of control of the information , history and the truth . The nature of the beast is fascist .

JudgeMental · 01-20-2010, 05:44 PM

Forced you say? That is an interesting angle on that. Forced or realizing the truth is the only thing that going to save them from loosing their grip on the world. Makes one mad when thinking of the people that have been whacked to hide this stuff.
Opening the library by releasing the information would be better. Not sure I would want to be anywhere near the basement of that place. If the info went on a web page they sure would have the biggest website in history with the most hits for years. That will never happen.

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

01-19-2010, 09:44 PM	#1
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) Proves to me what liars and great manipulators they all are My favorite part was they will not hold original sin...........

01-19-2010, 11:38 PM	#2
JudgeMental Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Every Where, Every When Posts: 202	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) I still would be curious to read the Vatican newspaper article "Aliens Are My Brother". If I could find it.

01-20-2010, 12:38 AM	#3
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) While this is kind of Old News - Lets not forget what this means and understand the gravity of It. For Hundreds if not Thousands of Years - Those Who've talked about those above have either been branded Lunatic, Troublemaker, Heretic or Dangerous... Many have died in keeping this Info out of the Mainsteam so understand this please... For the Vatican to finally say that ETs are God's Children too means the fall of 2000 Years of Dogma. Thats Epic and does not come out for no reason at all. They are not just trying to be safe... We're being prepared on purpose... Another Vatican doozy if You were unawares is the admonition by Pope John Paul II, that there is no Hell except that which You create for Yourself by Your own Thoughts and Guilt over Them... EPIC...

01-20-2010, 12:46 AM	#4
illuminate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: earth Posts: 261	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) having been forced to ingest way too much catholicism as a child, I must admit that I can't wait for the vatican to publicly eat the truth... but all I really want is one of their library cards!!! ~ one love ~

01-20-2010, 12:47 AM	#5
lindabaker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 504	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) Mercurial: You are absolutely right about the enormity of these statements. If you look at the long view of the Vatican's stance on things, these admissions are a huge turnaround. Linda

01-20-2010, 03:23 AM	#7
haibane Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Prague Posts: 75	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) I'd say they're just securing their power in case one of the main pillars of the dogma crumbles to bits ... They don't want to look like complete idiots if teh mothership lands on the Vatican lawn. My 2 cents, anyway : )

01-20-2010, 03:40 PM	#10
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) The only interest I have concerning the Vatican is the secrets hidden underneath it. All original scriptures and artifacts should be left public not stored away so the truth can be fabricated. Once I realized that people actually kisses a ring on the popes hand (as if he is God) I lost the little respect I had for this conglomerate. Peace

01-20-2010, 04:56 PM	#11
enemyofNWO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 186	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) "Who do you think forced this on the Vatican ? " Just events like partial disclosure about UFO and ET . More people becoming aware about those things . A possible disclosure and public revelation of ET would ignite a lot of philosophical questions about the " Christ " . Ignoring the possibility of "existence " of ET could prove damaging later .. From my point of view it would be more important to recognize equal civil rights to aliens of any type . It must be remembered that the Vatican has one or more astronomic observatory and it has been an active accomplice of the PTB' s suppression of information for a long time . Consideration about the negative effects of disclosure on society , religions , economy and social order were used from the very beginning by the US as an excuse to keep the secrecy and continue it . The Vatican rulers must have a pretty good idea of what is our possible future . Besides that ,even here in Italy , it is known that the seminaries are empty and the average age of priests is over 50 year . All of those things point to a global " awareness " about the traps of organized religion . My crystal ball makes me think that in 50 years the churches could be relegated to the garbage bin of history by a combination of future events . Regarding the secrets of the Vatican library I think it is a scandal that so much information has been locked up for so long . Again another egregious example of control of the information , history and the truth . The nature of the beast is fascist .

01-20-2010, 05:44 PM	#12
JudgeMental Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Every Where, Every When Posts: 202	Re: Vatican Admits ET's "could exist" (you wanted discloser?) Forced you say? That is an interesting angle on that. Forced or realizing the truth is the only thing that going to save them from loosing their grip on the world. Makes one mad when thinking of the people that have been whacked to hide this stuff. Opening the library by releasing the information would be better. Not sure I would want to be anywhere near the basement of that place. If the info went on a web page they sure would have the biggest website in history with the most hits for years. That will never happen. NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!