Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012

[Gnosis5]

Hello Greybeard,

I read your post and some of it I did grasp and some of it did not quite grasp on first read. Will come back to it a bit later.

What I am experiencing is a sense of equanimity which is becoming more often than not in spite of my tendency to want to be passionate.

How did you arrive experientially at this level of understanding?

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Hello Greybeard,

I read your post and some of it I did grasp and some of it did not quite grasp on first read. Will come back to it a bit later.

What I am experiencing is a sense of equanimity which is becoming more often than not in spite of my tendency to want to be passionate.

How did you arrive experientially at this level of understanding?

Hi Gnosis
Like you my passion has decreased, there neither attraction or aversion. If something happens and appropriate response is passion then thats what happens, if nothing of a passionate nature occurs thats ok too. You can apply that to virtually anything. Its like living life fully in the moment, no matter what.

My understanding of the moment came mainly second hand at first through the books cds, retreats etc. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle was a big break through, up till then it was all Indian Sages, very valuable.
My main source now is Dr David Hawkins.

Personal "proof" came through meditation which delivered some shattering experiences which I had not expected or looked for. One left me blissed out for two days. Never felt so loved in all my life. Just very fortunate.
We are all equal though. Put no head above your own.

Chris

[Gnosis5]

Is it possible to live in all the moments at once? Sometimes it feels like it. When I was a mom with a house and a career it was called multi-tasking.

[Gnosis5]

Oh, no that's okay, you can go first and be above me and tell me all about it, no problemo

Never had much patience for meditation but I aim to put myself into some Transcendental Meditation when I finish this stage of self-development. The thousands and thousands of years of meditation have smoothed the edges off.

Nevertheless have heard some neato experiences from some of my more meditative friends, er, acquaintances.

Do you think you might be building on other recent lifetimes you spent meditating?

[Gnosis5]

I am on the fringe circle of some self-enlightened beings who have developed their own approach to resolving dualities:

The Gunas Technique

"The gunas is an ancient technique for merging polarities which has come down to modern times through yoga."

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I am on the fringe circle of some self-enlightened beings who have developed their own approach to resolving dualities:

The Gunas Technique

"The gunas is an ancient technique for merging polarities which has come down to modern times through yoga."

Good morning Gnosis5
To my understanding the Gunas are a process, perception and attitude to life change as each guna is moved through.
Enlightenment/ self realization can occur without being aware of Gunas and without using any particular technique. Spiritual language can be misleading. Self-realization dosent mean you have done it yourself rather that the Self has been realized.
You cant make it happen.
All we can do is remove, to the best of our ability, that which obstructs the reality that we are one with God. The rest is up to the grace of God.
Be kind to all life including your own, is enough. technique is not necessary.

Cant remember any past lives but they probably play a part in the way this life starts. Past karma to be resolved.

Regards Chris

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Good morning Gnosis5
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All we can do is remove, to the best of our ability, that which obstructs the reality that we are one with God. The rest is up to the grace of God.
Be kind to all life including your own, is enough. technique is not necessary.

Regards Chris

Good morning, Chris!

You and I are dining in the same restaurant making different selections off the menu. Technique was and is my choice and did and is helping me remove obstruction to the reality that I am one with Source/God. As far as the rest being up to the grace of God, well since I am Source/God I guess whatever technique or process I discover that works is by my own grace.

It is more natural for me to be kind to all life and I thank the techniques I employed upon myself. Yes, I could have taken a different route. Each being has their own preferences.

In this "buffet" you chose one item for your body/self to process and I chose another. My role is to present a menu of choice.

"Technique" has worked for me to the extent that yesterday I processed out some remaining compulsive attachments and went out the top of this universe and visited a universe above this one. An ability re-gained, and retained my equanimity and interest during the whole journey. Also decided to check out the "Universe Below". Saw that it was occupied.

Thus, no polarities/dualities = no compulsive attachments = more freedoms.

I have not obtained this absolute yet, because I did have an "attachment" in the universe above, although once I arrived there it no longer seemed important to me. I went as far as my lack of compulsive attachments allowed me to go. I would not discount that I might even lose compulsive attachments surrounding "God", or "Source".

Yes, techniques can be viewed as a via similarly to how magic paraphenalia is a via or boost for pure intention ("where two or more are gathered together..."). I even had to process out any compulsive interest I had in my particular technique. My sessions ran more cleanly after that.

Intention is senior to technique, but not always a practical entry point for the mixed lot we have here on earth. Thus, I am not going to herd people into technique, or tell anyone what they need or do not need, and at the same time I am not going to shoo people away either.

May we all be changed in the twinkling of an eye

love,
Gnosis

[Majorion]

Good information, thanks kulapops.

[Kulapops]

Thanks Mudra, Gnosis and Greybeard for your great contributions.

It was Crosby Stills and Nash, who sang that Greybeard ! (or they copied the lyric from someone before perhaps?)

Love that song. It's very perceptive.

K

[Gnosis5]

Kulapops, I am very appreciative of you for opening up a topic for communication that I had been keeping suppressed, not allowing myself full expression. The co-contribution to this thought is helping me refine my focus.

As you may have noticed I tend to contribute to where the "rubber-meets-the-road". Very practical, very grounded.

When I read "Autobiography of a Yogi" I understood for the first time that there actually was an application behind all the talk and theory and nudges and urgings ons, etc., etc. Being someone who was also very much in my mind/ego that was a good entry point for me.

That was before I knew about Zen koans, but still love my mind a bit too much to take that drastic killing-the-mind route

Ironically, the more I follow my preference to dispel dualities the more I am coming to arrive at fuller understandings of beings such as Mudra and Tolle and other WayShowers.

Source is looking at a very rich tapestry indeed.

[folotheflo]

brilliant post, awesome!

my understanding of duallity/polarity

All opposites are part of the same spectrum, posotive-negative, good-bad, love-hate.
At what point does hot become cold?
You ask an eskimo and he'll tell a different answer to the texan man.
Hot and cold are just the extreme opposites of the same spectrum, temperature.
Good and evil only exists in the minds of men ( and women and other possible life forms ).
There is no good or bad, or love or hate, these are just ways to explain duality.
Negative is not bad
life will try every thing, if it works, it will indulge
'Love' is like watering a plant that needs water, you want it to GROW
'Hate' is like depriving a plant in need of water, you want it to DECAY

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by folotheflo

brilliant post, awesome!

my understanding of duallity/polarity

All opposites are part of the same spectrum, posotive-negative, good-bad, love-hate.
At what point does hot become cold?
You ask an eskimo and he'll tell a different answer to the texan man.
Hot and cold are just the extreme opposites of the same spectrum, temperature.
Good and evil only exists in the minds of men ( and women and other possible life forms ).
There is no good or bad, or love or hate, these are just ways to explain duality.
Negative is not bad
life will try every thing, if it works, it will indulge
'Love' is like watering a plant that needs water, you want it to GROW
'Hate' is like depriving a plant in need of water, you want it to DECAY

Yes, and it is only the compulsiveness or fixedness upon endsides of a duality or points within a duality that are being cleared out of me, allowing for FULL FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. It is only then that I find myself operating from the viewpoint that nothing is good or bad.

However, I would prefer balance between the stream of love, and theory and science of resolving dualities and practical ways and means to achieve this ability: Lots of forums where we philosopher kingsand avatars can rub heads over finer points of understanding. Fewer forums where sages are actually clearing themselves (i.e., beyond their intellectual comprehension) and reporting about it, presenting personal experiential data/results from applied processes.

In my case, intellectual comprehension alone can be a ruse for keeping myself from actually going into my subconscious and digging up my "stuff" that fixes me into my dualities.

Thankfully, I did not have to have more than a rudimentary understanding of the process I am employing to receive the full benefits of it, i.e., quelling compulsive dualities.

[Gnosis5]

IS ANYONE USING EFT TAPPING TO RELEASE DUALITIES?

EFT, not my preference, but might appeal to people who are more kinetic. I have used it in emergency situations and so I know it does work for a temporary relief. Choose a Way that you know you will enjoy continuing in and that offers the support you need. Unless one has a very stable epiphany (they tend to not lead to stable gains), such as a near death experience, count on a Way becoming part of your life routine.


From this weblink: http://www.eft-austin.com/eft%20articles/transformconflict/index.html

"If you continue tapping you will begin to uncover your own internal dualities and conflicts. As you use EFT to transform these you will become more integrated and calm inside. You will be able to come to an acceptance that will lead to inner peace without denial of the outer circumstance. This puts you in a much stronger position to resolve a conflict with another person. It is likely you will see options you couldn’t see before and the conflict will not seem as bothersome to you as it once did. It will be much easier to communicate with clarity and respect, and the other person will feel your positive intentions and respond accordingly."

[greybeard]

Hi Gnosis5
love your menu.
Yes technique is helpful then even that drops away.
Tapping is helpful especially in moments of "The dark night of the soul"
AA 12 step program helped me immensely, then spending time in the presence of enlightened sages. Their auric field interacts with the students and helps clear karmic debt.
However in my case the ego is still work in progress. I have to be ever vigilant.
No gain without pain

Chris

[mudra]

The Inner

Question: Last night You said that by changing the outer, the inner remains unchanged, untransformed. But is it not true that the right food, right labor, right sleep, right actions and behaviors are also important factors for inner transformation? Isn't it a mistake to ignore the outer completely?


Osho: The outer cannot change the inner, but the outer can help, or it can hinder. The outer can create a situation in which the inner can explode more easily.

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Remember this: that the inner is important, significant. The outer is helpful, it is good, but you must not become focused on it. It must not become so important that the inner is forgotten. The inner must remain the inner and the central, and the outer, if possible, should be changed just as a help.

Don't ignore it completely. There is no need to ignore it, because really the outer is also part of the inner. It is not something opposite to it, it is not something contrary to it, it is not something imposed upon you -- it is you. But the inner is the central, and the outer is the periphery. So give as much importance as a periphery needs, as a circumference needs, as a boundary needs -- but the boundary is not the house. So take care of it, but don't become mad after it.

Our mind is always trying to find escapes. If you can become involved with food, with sex, with clothes, with the body, your mind will be at ease, because now you are not going towards the inner. Now there is no need to change the mind. Now there is no need to destroy the mind, to go beyond the mind. With the change of food, the same mind can exist. You may eat this or that -- the same mind can exist. Only when you move inwards... the more inside you reach, the more this mind which you have has to cease. The inward path is the path towards no-mind.

The mind becomes afraid. It will try to find some escape-- something to do with the outer. Then the mind can exist as it is. Whatsoever you do makes no difference. It is irrelevant what you do -- this mind can exist, and this mind can find ways for how to remain the same. And sometimes, when you struggle with the natural outlet, your mind will find some perverted outlets which are more dangerous. Rather than being a help, they will become hindrances.

This is what everyone is doing. If one outlet is blocked, then a perversion is bound to happen. And you don't know the ways of the mind-- they are very cunning and subtle.

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Someone is smoking too much and he wants to stop it. But smoking in itself is not a problem; the problem is something else. You can stop smoking, but the problem will remain, and it will have to come out in something else. When do you smoke? When you are anxious, nervous, you start smoking, and smoking helps you. You feel more confident, you feel more relaxed.

Just by stopping the smoking, your nervousness is not going to change. You will feel nervous, you will feel anxious; the anxiety will come. Then you will do something else. And you can find something which is a beautiful substitute; it looks so different. You can do anything. You can just use a mantra instead of smoking, and whenever you feel nervous you can say "Ram Ram Ram":-- anything continuously.
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The problem has not changed; only you have changed the trick. Previously you were doing it with smoke; now you are doing it with a word.
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You can do anything on the surface, but unless deeper roots are changed, nothing happens. So with the outer remember this: be aware of it, and move from the surface towards the roots and find the root -- why are you nervous?

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Once you come to know the roots, once the roots are exposed.... Remember this law: the roots can exist only in darkness -- not only the roots of trees, but the roots of anything. They can exist only in darkness. Once they are brought to light, they die.

So move with your periphery; dig deep and go to the roots, and bring the roots to consciousness, to light. Once you have come to the root, it simply disappears. You have not to do anything about it. You have to do something only because you don't know what the problem is. A problem rightly understood disappears.

From Osho The Book of Secrets

Love Always
mudra