David Wilcock - The open letter

[Humble Janitor]

I don't see this post as anything but an attempt to blame HAARP or an actual rocket.

Why is it that people dislike Wilcock but are willing to nod their heads in agreement at a thread like this?

Are you aware that there are people trying to turn you against the very people that try to bring a message to you? Wilcock has never claimed to be and will never be perfect. It's the WAY he says things that matters the most. He's not a fearmonger like Ben Fulford or Alex Jones.

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hi humble
bashi's letter is very appreciative of mr wilcock's fine efforts. it's critical of some points of mr wilcock's latest ebook, but does not dismiss. the more views, the better..
best wishes

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Wilcock has never claimed to be and will never be perfect. It's the WAY he says things that matters the most. He's not a fearmonger like Ben Fulford or Alex Jones.

I agree.

Even though not too big a fan of Wilcock. His presentations are superb. I don't understand why so many think hes a disinfo agent. He is clearly just a passionate individual and it is reflected in his character and the depth of his research.

I don't agree with some issues he's on about, but on other things its like staring at a mirror, can really see eye to eye with him. His message is ultimately a good one, hes okay.

[NeedForSpeed]

David Wilcock is funny. I don't believe a word of what he says and I am surprised that some still take him seriously. This guy is the one that claimed Obama had orbs of light around him, hahaha! I don't remember if he was the one who said Obama had a "divine mission" or it was someone else...

Now, there's a lot of hate for Alex Jones in this site, but at least he is trying to back what he says with actual evidence. Don't blame the messenger for the message. If the truth causes you to have fear then you probably have some personal issues to fix and no one else is guilty of your fear.

[3optic]

Originally Posted by NeedForSpeed

David Wilcock is funny. I don't believe a word of what he says and I am surprised that some still take him seriously. This guy is the one that claimed Obama had orbs of light around him, hahaha! I don't remember if he was the one who said Obama had a "divine mission" or it was someone else...

Now, there's a lot of hate for Alex Jones in this site, but at least he is trying to back what he says with actual evidence. Don't blame the messenger for the message. If the truth causes you to have fear then you probably have some personal issues to fix and no one else is guilty of your fear.

There is some good information on Jones' site.. which makes it all the more disconcerting when he convolutes his message with the hysterical tone he imbues it with. Have you heard his broadcast during the Y2K debacle? He seemed to knowingly misrepresent facts in the most irresponsible way imaginable. Since then he has refined his approach but the distinction I make between the two is this: Wilcock seems to me to have a sincerity and benign intent from his actions even if his information isn't always correct. Jones has often insulted and belittled guests with none of the "truth" or rationality you claim he represents.

Here he blows a good opportunity during an interview with David Mayer de Rothschild by raving and screaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuNLahhZFJ0

And here he acts beligerently toward Noam Chomsky for no apparent reason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXFX8bM6s8

I recommend listening to the entire interviews. They had a juicy appeal to me initially which is why I listened.

I am not a huge fan of either Chomsky or Rothschild. (though I do drink and use with them frequently) but at the very least AJ seems to be unwittingly sabotaging his message with boorish behavior.

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hi 3optic
i see what you're saying..
though, living outside the usa, you do need to get some picture as to what is going on in the states....which you won't get while listening to the bbc, for one..by combining the two, three or more (and using your own discernment) you do eventually get a clearer picture..like him or not, it does not matter as much...i very recently caught him give a brief definition of the BEAST technology, which made me think he must be familiar with what ashayana deane is on about..i was really surprised to hear that from AJ...everyone is prejudiced to a degree..and so are we..best wishes

[Raskarcapac]

This post raises good questions.

Although I think the spiral is the result of electromagnetic waves, Wilcock's explanations does not constitute irrefutable proof.

As some pointed, he is a great spiritual teacher but he lacks a clear understanding of electromagnetism and physics in general. It even more shows in his books Shift Of The Ages and The Science Of Oneness.

I can only praise his attempt to synthesize all this information (God knows it is a herculean task), but he tends to jump at conclusions without any solid (scientific) proof.

I am also concerned by his following which is increasingly showing signs of a personality cult.

Two weeks ago I tried to post on the Divine Cosmos forum a critique of Sitchin's work (available here on Avalon at http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19269) which was rejected without any explanation. In his books Wilcock cites some of Sitchin's assertions which are proven to be wrong, and I think it is important to point out these mistakes, intentional or not.

Does this mean that anything David Wilcock says or writes cannot be contradicted ?

[feardia]

Originally Posted by Raskarcapac

Does this mean that anything David Wilcock says or writes cannot be contradicted ?

He certainly won't let you criticise him on his own site, but I think its alright here.

I think bashi was a lot closer to the truth than dw was, here's an article from Pravda about a UFO landing in the city of Perm:

Aliens Land in Russia

Residents of the city of Perm, in Russia’s Ural region, say that they could see a strange object in the sky. The object, eyewitnesses said, was hanging in the air above the city, scanned the area with a beam of light and even let off several “passengers.” The people did not specify what kind of passengers they were exactly and how they disembarked from what seemed to be a spaceship.

A woman saw a strange object in the window at about 2-4 o’clock a.m. She woke up her daughter and asked her to take a look at the strange sight. The two women could see a disk-like object sending three glittering beams of light on the ground.

Many city residents discussed the strange object on local forums.

Nikolai Subbotin, the director of RUFOS research station said the specialists of the station were investigating the information about the appearance of a UFO above Perm on January 9, Arguments and Facts newspaper wrote.

Pravda.Ru

Link to news item

[NeedForSpeed]

Originally Posted by 3optic

There is some good information on Jones' site.. which makes it all the more disconcerting when he convolutes his message with the hysterical tone he imbues it with. Have you heard his broadcast during the Y2K debacle? He seemed to knowingly misrepresent facts in the most irresponsible way imaginable. Since then he has refined his approach but the distinction I make between the two is this: Wilcock seems to me to have a sincerity and benign intent from his actions even if his information isn't always correct. Jones has often insulted and belittled guests with none of the "truth" or rationality you claim he represents.

Rationality is not defined my "tone", but by logical accuracy of what he means. I don't care if he talks, screams or communicate via smoke signs, all I care is if his information is true or not.

Yes, I prefer a rude truthsayer instead of a pleasant liar.

Who cares if you or anybody else feel offended? Take your hurt feelings somewhere else. Man up or **** off.

[3optic]

Originally Posted by NeedForSpeed

Rationality is not defined my "tone", but by logical accuracy of what he means. I don't care if he talks, screams or communicate via smoke signs, all I care is if his information is true or not.

Yes, I prefer a rude truthsayer instead of a pleasant liar.

Who cares if you or anybody else feel offended? Take your hurt feelings somewhere else. Man up or **** off.

Haha! My feelings are not hurt, Need. I may have neglected to point out that much of his info is incorrect. The Y2K stuff is a prime example. an hysterical or angry tone is as much a tool of disinfo as actual disinformation. Moreover, It's not what one says it's what one does and behaving like a bully or a fool can undermine ones message. particularly if the message happens to be anti bullying and incompetence.

AJ is very good at culling (My bad!) together material on the topic of NWO conspiracy. I like Alan Watt and some of his guests but I can't listen for too long because the shouting and theatrics get tiring for me. He's one of many sources I gather info from and I would encourage you to similarly broaden your scope.

What am I gonna say? That I'll take the liar? :P

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by NeedForSpeed

Who cares if you or anybody else feel offended? Take your hurt feelings somewhere else. Man up or **** off.

The moderators of this site care.

Be polite or leave.

A..

[bashi]

Hi Jetamus,
you didnt get the point: Its not about "bashing a smug", but to constructive rectify some possible mistakes for the betterment of a qualified discussion.

[Jetamus]

Gotta love that smug Wilcock bashing/discrediting.

Stay classy Project Avalon forums!