Bill Ryan's thread

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

Originally Posted by IMU

What do you think of Leo Zagami? I also don't know if I can trust Dan Burisch or not...

Leo Zagami gave us the best information he had in our Feb 2008 interview. Kerry and I think he believed everything he was telling us.

Very soon after that he was overwhelmed and “taken back”. Just one data point about this (and there are many others): he called Kerry a few months ago and told her he was being tortured. Other public statements he made, especially in 2008, leave one’s eyebrows raised about his state of mind at that time.

In my view (let me put it this way...) everything he’s stated publicly since our interview should be cross-checked against other information that one believes to be reliable. Leo is a good soul, but he’s sitting in the hottest part of the fire and it would be almost impossible for him not to become burned.

Regarding Dan Burisch, his interviews remain on our site because we believe the bulk of the information is valuable and we’re still convinced that Dan believes everything he’s told us.

The timeline 1, variant 83 information, for example, is critically important if true: and when we met with him for five hours in December 2008 after his six months sabbatical (and he really was offline for that time) everything he told us then seemed valid and credible. Dan was passionate and articulate and offered consistent, extremely detailed information about possible future events on that timeline variant.

As I’ve stated elsewhere, we respect Dan and continue to regard him as a friend, though we’re not optimistic we will hear from him again.

Originally Posted by 1love

Bill, you mentioned that you dabble in free zone scientology and I was just wondering how far along you've gotten and how beneficial it's been for you? If this is too personal I understand if you don't want to answer the question.

Another personal question that you don't have to answer: 'When did you wake up' per se? Did you remember what triggered it ? Or was it just a gradual build up?

I’ve had benefit from Free Zone scientology since I first encountered the subject in 1984. The trigger for that was doing Werner Erhard’s est Training, which impressed and helped me enormously, and I wondered where on earth Erhard got all his material from.

I read Erhard’s biography [highly recommended], and realized it that ‘the Training’ was mostly based on scientology processes. I continued to work with est, but at the same time started applying scientology principles to myself.

That was basically the start of my journey. I write about this a little in my previous answer on p.25.

Interestingly, the prompt for my getting involved in est was my girlfriend Angi, who I first spoke about in our August 2009 interview with Arjan Bos and again in my Freedom Central interview. She was on est staff and was fairly close to some of the members of Erhard’s family.

I learned an enormous amount during that period. It was after an est workshop that Angi suddenly grew two and a half inches at the age of 26, after realizing that she had an ‘investment’ in being small. That was also the time on my life when (associated with Angi) I had some of my ET encounters, and it was all rather a wild ride.

I was, however, 'awake' at a fairly early age. I remember at the age of 8 (eight!) being asked to write a story at school. Everyone else wrote about their puppy dog or their day at the seaside, but I wanted to write about Ghosts and Flying Saucers. (I have no clue why, because I knew nothing about the subject at such a young age.)

My teacher would not let me... my first experience of the cover-up.

Cheers, Bill