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Old 01-09-2010, 02:35 AM   #1
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Go for it Oxy... I second you...
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:49 AM   #2
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Go for it Oxy... I second you...
Thank-you Antonia. I know I'm playing with fire...and I know that I don't know what I'm doing...but I don't know what else to do. I lost my faith...and I'm trying to put something in it's place. This is more about me trying to evolve than anything. Hopefully this is an appropriate place to do something like this.

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Old 01-09-2010, 11:46 AM   #3
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:29 PM   #4
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man, took me a long time to get to here to try and catch your ear and say i love what you wrote, want to talk more. something funky about this forum but i don't know what. just joined weeks ago and it's taken a lot of patience to find my way around. but that's okay. but still, i'm a geek so worried that regular people won't have the patience to persevere. hear what i'm saying?

i want to talk to you, need to. i know i should go through the proper protocols at this place but i don't have any patience or desire left. that said, here's my real stuff, portlandartworks @ gmail dot com. write me there w/some sorta non-spam addy so i'll see you. stuff's comin down but we can still prevail. love to you.
Thank-you...and welcome to Avalon. The people who post are generally very knowledgable...but they are not arrogant academics. They seem to be regular people who pay attention and think outside of the box. I speculate more than anything...but I try to approximate reality as much as possible. I have no credentials. My insecurity and curiosity drives me forward...for better or for worse. I don't do email out of paranoia...although I'm sure the alphabet people know more about me than I know about myself. A lot of the things I speculate about could be very upsetting to many people...even in the context of a forum such as this. I upset myself every day. Then I yell...and my dog leaves the room...especially if I swear! I try to maintain an illusion of anonymity and security. The forum is a great place to communicate...and you will soon be able to private message me. I don't know much though. I'm more neurotic than knowledgable...and that's the truth. I think we're all going to make it somehow...but I don't think it's going to be fun or pretty.

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Hey Oxy....what a great idea....lets hope we get some interaction...

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Old 01-09-2010, 03:51 PM   #6
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Hey Oxy....what a great idea....lets hope we get some interaction...

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Thank-you viking. I'm just testing. This is more of an educational process for me than anything. I'm sort of like the wise-guy at the back of the room...making a lot of off the wall comments...and asking a lot of hard questions.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:49 PM   #7
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Thank-you Antonia. I know I'm playing with fire...and I know that I don't know what I'm doing...but I don't know what else to do. I lost my faith...and I'm trying to put something in it's place. This is more about me trying to evolve than anything. Hopefully this is an appropriate place to do something like this.

Namaste
I applaud you Ortho for your dedication to the future of our beautiful Earth home. I have read through this thread and briefed over your linked thread, The United States of the Solar System, both of which have really touched me. I have also watched the 5-part video series of G. Edward Griffin, who also has a suggestion for a positive and helpful way forward for this planet. What has affected me most, is your unusual heartfelt ability to share your thoughts on line.

I am slowly studying the Declaration of Human Sovereignty texts and beginning to allow a mental picture to form that will embrace the all and not the few. I am also studying the writings that describe various universal civilizations. As you well know, this is beyond a complicated issue.

The origin of the Earth species has been claimed by several different universal systems. I have read about three distinct off-Earth planetary/star system groups whose ancestors seeded, propagated and watched over the slow but steady advancement of the inhabitants of our Earth. Interplanetary wars have been fought over this very control. Our origins have been well documented to have been other than the biblical account.

Therefore, the very first question that we must ask ourselves while establishing a new basis for the continuation of our species is: Who Are We? What is our heritage? To whom/what do we owe allegiance? From whom/what must we gain independence if necessary? Will we want to gain independence? Will we want to include our planetary brothers and sisters because we are a part of them? Some of these are here on the earth and have been since time began. Some pass us on the city streets. Some are walking the halls of the Pentagon. Some of these live under the surface of our Earth and in the mountains and in the oceans. They are us. We are them. How do we not include?

Personally, I am of the opinion that the initial form and content of the United States Constitution, the formation of a Republic btw, was good for the people when formed. However, its forced morphed formation hasn't served the people for many generations and will not do so into the future. We, as a nation, might look into the possibility of what G. Edward Griffin terms, A Protectorate, of which I am not familiar. I do not believe that a government serves the people or will ever serve the people.

This, by the way, is not an attempt to overthrow the current government. THAT, has already been accomplished by the very ones who are currently in control. The people of this country are simply innocent bystanders. We are not represented and I seriously doubt that we have ever been represented.

This on-going discussion is a wonderful method to share thoughts and opinions and receive input, however brief, from people around the globe. Thank you for starting this thread.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:17 PM   #8
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I applaud you Ortho for your dedication to the future of our beautiful Earth home. I have read through this thread and briefed over your linked thread, The United States of the Solar System, both of which have really touched me. I have also watched the 5-part video series of G. Edward Griffin, who also has a suggestion for a positive and helpful way forward for this planet. What has affected me most, is your unusual heartfelt ability to share your thoughts on line.

I am slowly studying the Declaration of Human Sovereignty texts and beginning to allow a mental picture to form that will embrace the all and not the few. I am also studying the writings that describe various universal civilizations. As you well know, this is beyond a complicated issue.

The origin of the Earth species has been claimed by several different universal systems. I have read about three distinct off-Earth planetary/star system groups whose ancestors seeded, propagated and watched over the slow but steady advancement of the inhabitants of our Earth. Interplanetary wars have been fought over this very control. Our origins have been well documented to have been other than the biblical account.

Therefore, the very first question that we must ask ourselves while establishing a new basis for the continuation of our species is: Who Are We? What is our heritage? To whom/what do we owe allegiance? From whom/what must we gain independence if necessary? Will we want to gain independence? Will we want to include our planetary brothers and sisters because we are a part of them? Some of these are here on the earth and have been since time began. Some pass us on the city streets. Some are walking the halls of the Pentagon. Some of these live under the surface of our Earth and in the mountains and in the oceans. They are us. We are them. How do we not include?

Personally, I am of the opinion that the initial form and content of the United States Constitution, the formation of a Republic btw, was good for the people when formed. However, its forced morphed formation hasn't served the people for many generations and will not do so into the future. We, as a nation, might look into the possibility of what G. Edward Griffin terms, A Protectorate, of which I am not familiar. I do not believe that a government serves the people or will ever serve the people.

This, by the way, is not an attempt to overthrow the current government. THAT, has already been accomplished by the very ones who are currently in control. The people of this country are simply innocent bystanders. We are not represented and I seriously doubt that we have ever been represented.

This on-going discussion is a wonderful method to share thoughts and opinions and receive input, however brief, from people around the globe. Thank you for starting this thread.
You make some very thoughtful and pertinent points Snowbird. I guess I'm trying to positively reinforce the best of what presently exists in the world today...and progressively refine it...and throw out the bathwater without throwing out the baby. I'm trying to make peace between the old world, new world, and extraterrestrial world. There have been too many lies, assassinations, terrorist events, manufactured wars, rigged financial collapses, and persecutions. I guess I'm also trying to unite the patriot movement and the globalists. And I certainly don't want to trample on the devotional lives of the people of the world. I desire unity and peace...but not at any price. This is very tricky business. The stakes are enormous. I like G. Edward Griffin's research and attitude. He gets his point across without making people enraged. There may be better conceptual constitutions...but I fear that starting from scratch would be disastrous. Article 6 and the 16th Amendment are the only real trouble spots that I see presently. Irresponsible, incompetent, and corrupt politicians...with hidden theocratic influences...and a corrupted press and financial system...militate against the Constitution working properly.

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Old 01-09-2010, 10:19 PM   #9
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You make some very thoughtful and pertinent points Snowbird. I guess I'm trying to positively reinforce the best of what presently exists in the world today...and progressively refine it...and throw out the bathwater without throwing out the baby. I'm trying to make peace between the old world, new world, and extraterrestrial world. There have been too many lies, assassinations, terrorist events, manufactured wars, rigged financial collapses, and persecutions. I guess I'm also trying to unite the patriot movement and the globalists. And I certainly don't want to trample on the devotional lives of the people of the world. I desire unity and peace...but not at any price. This is very tricky business. The stakes are enormous. I like G. Edward Griffin's research and attitude. He gets his point across without making people enraged. There may be better conceptual constitutions...but I fear that starting from scratch would be disastrous. Article 6 and the 16th Amendment are the only real trouble spots that I see presently. Irresponsible, incompetent, and corrupt politicians...with hidden theocratic influences...and a corrupted press and financial system...militate against the Constitution working properly.

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Your heart attitude is in the right place. Wanting peace and working toward peace and reconciliation is to be honored. Never discard the preliminary work that you have done on the new Constitution. These are great starting places.

There are several probable/possible considerations that may brighten your outlook. Let me first say that it will be impossible to find a peace that would have affect on the old world. These are ancient and current warmongers who/that have NO intentions of allowing peaceful resolutions, ever. With that said, the probable/possible advance of the Earth from the current 3rd dimension into the 4th or 5th dimension will greatly cure these ills. These warmongers will no longer be a problem. With that, we then concentrate on the people of peace and the universal beings living amongst us who, with a heart of great hope, are also peaceful.

The truth(s) of who and what we are and the massive and monstrous cover ups that must be communicated will predominate the attention of billions around our globe. During these communications that will most likely stem from a combination of those who have helped to cover over the truth and our planetary universal family, we will have the perfect opportunity to restructure our future which will most likely be formed on global consideration and sharing. We will still require guidelines and boundaries and creeds. The people of earth will be entering an unchartered territory of sharing our precious Earth space with space-beings. They will be here. They are here.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:27 PM   #10
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:44 PM   #11
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Then I yell...and my dog leaves the room...especially if I swear!


My wife monitors my emotional level in three stages:
Stage 1: She can hear my banging on the keyboard, in the 'Puter room from clear out in the den.

Stage 2: I get "vocal" so the dog leaves me, and goes in and sits next to her, for protection.

Stage 3: I leave the puter room, and join her in the den, lest I throw things.

Nice to know I'm not alone, in this.

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