Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze

Northern Boy · 01-08-2010, 06:18 PM

I lived in a small town in Northern Ontario for 15 years it was not uncommon during the 60`s early 70`s to see the temp @ -40F in fact the town I used to live in set the record one year for coldest Temp ever recorded in Ontaio -73F

Phr0z3n · 01-08-2010, 06:22 PM

It's really funny that most people just say that we have global warming and that's it. They fail to realize that the end result of global warming is global cooling. If greenland melts due to global warming the fresh water shutsdown the atlantic conveyor belt stopping the flow of warm water to the north. Affecting weather patterns and plunging the earth into a cooling stage. Hell even the movie the Day after tomorrow played out this scenario.

burgundia · 01-08-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phr0z3n

It's really funny that most people just say that we have global warming and that's it. They fail to realize that the end result of global warming is global cooling. If greenland melts due to global warming the fresh water shutsdown the atlantic conveyor belt stopping the flow of warm water to the north. Affecting weather patterns and plunging the earth into a cooling stage. Hell even the movie the Day after tomorrow played out this scenario.

It is true that the final result is global cooling, but....do we really see it already? there were severe winters throughout recent history, and I am not sure if this one is the result....not yet....

Phr0z3n · 01-08-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia

It is true that the final result is global cooling, but....do we really see it already? there were severe winters throughout recent history, and I am not sure if this one is the result....not yet....

No, I'm not saying that this is the final straw that broke the camel's back but i'm sure there is some level of progression through the extreme seasonal temperature swings that have been being reported lately.

Fredkc · 01-08-2010, 07:14 PM

ok, before we wind up blaming the US for this, just because many people seem to know about our HAARP, a couple of items.

1. There are 12-15 HAARP facilities operated by various countries world-wide, and these are just the ones they'll admit to.

The Russians built theirs first, actually.

Two "coincidences" from that program:
1. That the years the "woodpecker" was operating, a high pressure zone parked itself just offshore of Califoirnia, causing a 4 year drought. One of our worst on record.

Also, once ours came online, the woodpecker stopped, and so did California's drought.

2. The year after Katrina, a large high parked itself off the east coast, turning away every hurricane that came our way. the same high appeared every year for the next three years, as well.

2. because of the nature of the science/weapon, the activities of all of them, and who did what, is completely untraceable.

HAARP effects can be bounced off the upper atmosphere so that their affects can be placed wherever wished.

This means the fact this latest event was positioned over Norway's HAARP, and timed to match the EISCAT tests is either:
a) Proof it was Norway, or the EU. Or...
b) A well disguised act by someone else, since both the Norway's HAARP location, and the scheduled EISCAT test were common public knowledge.

3. Consider the fact that you have, at least, Russia, US, China, EU, Norway, all involved in what amounts to "Weather Warfare"!

Like all wars it escalates, involving more and more energy. All the different factions are engaged in both:
a) Diddling with the "other guy", and
b) A running defensive practice on their own region's weather.

Since, as I said above, all of this is "untraceable", no one will either admit to it, nor accuse the other of what it knows they do as well! And neither can they stop doing it!
________________________________________

"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." - Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn.

"All weather is now manufactured. Period." - Scott Stevens

I have a bunch more I can post on this, if anyone cares. Seems like I have posted it several times, with little response, but I will again, if there is an interest.

Fred

GaiaLove · 01-08-2010, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredkc

I have a bunch more I can post on this, if anyone cares. Seems like I have posted it several times, with little response, but I will again, if there is an interest.

Fred

Please elaborate Fred, the spiral was obviously done by HAARP technology and any info you can provide the forum would be helpful.

Anchor · 01-10-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaiaLove

Please elaborate Fred, the spiral was obviously done by HAARP technology and any info you can provide the forum would be helpful.

Obviously ? Really ?

A..

Anchor · 01-10-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredkc

I have a bunch more I can post on this, if anyone cares. Seems like I have posted it several times, with little response, but I will again, if there is an interest.

Interest registered

New thread requested

A..

morguana · 01-10-2010, 10:38 AM

winters here in the uk have been on a definate cooling trend for a couple of years now, last year temps reached -10 on the south coast. however there does seem to be a pattern.

on page 5 you will find the graph to support this........

Quote:

Figure 2 shows a time series of mean monthly temperature anomalies averaged over the UK. The particularly cold months of January 1947, January 1963 and February 1986 can be seen, as well as the marked increase in temperature since 1987.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...ate_trends.pdf

anyway this link is worth a read

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/hadcrut-jan08.png&imgrefurl=http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/&usg=__YxuBvbtklpRHOT1Zw_PhF-uhzkw=&h=1085&w=1919&sz=49&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbn id=YcG820GFJ1O6zM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Duk%2Bwinter%2Btemps%2Bfor%2Bthe%2Blas t%2B100%2Byears%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB

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but this data doesnt show if the blue spiral anonomally has anything to do with the current temperature in the northern hemisphere......all it does is show us that fluctuations in average temp is cyclic and quite normal (and please excuse spelling im dyslexic)

m x

chelmostef · 01-10-2010, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredkc

ok, before we wind up blaming the US for this, just because many people seem to know about our HAARP, a couple of items.

1. There are 12-15 HAARP facilities operated by various countries world-wide, and these are just the ones they'll admit to.

The Russians built theirs first, actually.

Two "coincidences" from that program:
1. That the years the "woodpecker" was operating, a high pressure zone parked itself just offshore of Califoirnia, causing a 4 year drought. One of our worst on record.

Also, once ours came online, the woodpecker stopped, and so did California's drought.

2. The year after Katrina, a large high parked itself off the east coast, turning away every hurricane that came our way. the same high appeared every year for the next three years, as well.

2. because of the nature of the science/weapon, the activities of all of them, and who did what, is completely untraceable.

HAARP effects can be bounced off the upper atmosphere so that their affects can be placed wherever wished.

This means the fact this latest event was positioned over Norway's HAARP, and timed to match the EISCAT tests is either:
a) Proof it was Norway, or the EU. Or...
b) A well disguised act by someone else, since both the Norway's HAARP location, and the scheduled EISCAT test were common public knowledge.

3. Consider the fact that you have, at least, Russia, US, China, EU, Norway, all involved in what amounts to "Weather Warfare"!

Like all wars it escalates, involving more and more energy. All the different factions are engaged in both:
a) Diddling with the "other guy", and
b) A running defensive practice on their own region's weather.

Since, as I said above, all of this is "untraceable", no one will either admit to it, nor accuse the other of what it knows they do as well! And neither can they stop doing it!
________________________________________

"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." - Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn.

"All weather is now manufactured. Period." - Scott Stevens

I have a bunch more I can post on this, if anyone cares. Seems like I have posted it several times, with little response, but I will again, if there is an interest.

Fred

So ok! If for instance what David Wilcocks writes about in the disclosure, Endgame, would it be to far fetched to say this could be the ball being batted back by the US.. The facilty in Norway is Eiscat. Does russia really have a sway over the operation facility...

I live in Essex, as a small child the salt water river would be full of "Growlers" (mini icebergs) and the Icicles would be about a foot long on some homes. This hasent happen here as yet but I think its colder in other parts of the uk. It just doesnt seem as cold as I remember it, espcially with the icicles I seem to remember them hanging of lots of homes.

The Jet stream meanders when its slows down and goes all wiggley, this is what has happened. On the warm side of the jet stream they are having espicially warm weather.

The Gulf Stream is the one to watch. When enough cold water is relised from the artic circle it pushes the gulf stream in a diffent direction. When this shifts it's the start of an Iceage. This does happen every so often, how quickly it switches over I dont know. I thought it took Millennia if not decades.

(Edit for spelling and grammer)

Panta rhei · 01-11-2010, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chelmostef

The Gulf Stream is the one to watch. When enough cold water is relised from the artic circle it pushes the gulf stream in a diffent direction. When this shifts it's the start of an Iceage. This does happen every so often, how quickly it switches over I dont know. I thought it took Millennia if not decades.

I tought too it took a long time til the Gulf stream would entirely stop, however this article says the Gulf stream is already pushed in a different direction but only temporarely.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...m-to-Greenland

Quote:

An unprecedented extreme in the northern hemisphere atmospheric circulation has driven a strong direct connecting current between the Gulf Stream and the West Greenland current. The unprecedented negativity of the "Arctic Oscillation" and the strong connection of the Gulf Stream with the Greenland current are exceptional events. More exceptional weather events are predicted with anthropogenic climate change, but this could be a natural variation of weather and currents.

Ammit · 01-11-2010, 11:41 PM

I will probably get shot in the ass for this but, i think we are just experiencing a cold front. I left birmingham (uk) 20 years ago to move south, before I left, and im talking days before i left, i walked to the dentist and my wellies filled with snow, poeple froze in their cars, people died in their homes etc.

Just a cold front.

micjer · 01-08-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

I lived in a small town in Northern Ontario for 15 years it was not uncommon during the 60`s early 70`s to see the temp @ -40F in fact the town I used to live in set the record one year for coldest Temp ever recorded in Ontaio -73F

Hey NB do I win a prize for knowing where you lived?

hehe

White River Ontario

jem284 · 01-08-2010, 07:51 PM

I think that all the HAARP's and Countries are working some what together to experiment on us to promote fear for control and to see about down sizing the population.

Northern Boy · 01-08-2010, 07:51 PM

figured you would go hunting for it
But its here January 23, 1935 Iroquois Falls, Ontario -58.3C which works out to -72.94F this is for Ontario and I keep the prize Mic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ures_in_Canada

micjer · 01-08-2010, 08:08 PM

Haha.

White River is going to have to change their welcome sign to SECOND coldest.

Still damm cold. Beat them by .94 degrees.

Shaynard · 01-08-2010, 08:13 PM

Mother Nature is a master when it comes to balancing herself. Climate change is happening, perhaps just not for the reasons some say. This winter (in my small town north of Toronto Ontario) is having a very cold and snow covered winter, after a not very warm summer. Very different from 5yrs ago. It's been interesting to witness although anything beyond "nature" effecting this is beyond me. (meaning I know of nothing that would cause this, the OP article raises some good questions though)

The Eiscat center is not run by the American Government to the best of my knowledge. There is interesting data to support the possibility of it being operated by the Russians, but this is something I can't confirm myself for sure.

I have enjoyed the OP and thread, thank you NorthernSanctuary.

In light, of love
Shaynard

Truth Vibrations · 01-08-2010, 10:06 PM

Hi folks,

I'm in the UK and I can tell you firsthand that the temperatures are dropping like a lead balloon, -22C in places! It's fffrreezzing right now with icy fog making matters worse. I've never known it so cold. Forecasters predict that this will continue for another week or two.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8448399.stm

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...itain-1.996940

These are very interesting times indeed.

Myplanet2 · 01-08-2010, 10:52 PM

I can't imagine -70. Even -45 freezes your nostrils on each in breath, and you can't have skin exposed for more than a couple of minutes before your body goes into emergency mode. That's not a survivable temp without reliable shelter. Must have been havoc on liquid cooled, gas powered vehicles too. was anything running?

Firstlook · 01-09-2010, 12:18 AM

isnt the gulf stream slowing down? could be that?

Avid · 01-09-2010, 02:00 AM

Bottom line - too many coincidences with that Norwegian atmospheric 'experiment', and the 'owners' of the facilities are not the EU/USA/whomsover but the funders of this global experiment.
Follow the money - who will profit from a desperate need for energy to heat our homes/grow our crops/bring us to our knees for fuel? They can then hike their prices... We are supposed to be therefore beholden to them.
Time for the Tesla energies to be activated globally - we've been used and abused enough - THEY DON'T FOOL US ANY MORE.
Their 'pandemic' eugenics and globalistic murdering manipulations (initial phase not terribly successful) are now so transparent, that when the sprayed-on impossibly 'mutated HiN1' to D225E And D225N is the next phase of eugenics - the weakened immune systems of those vaccinated with squalene adjuvants from initial 'swine flu' jabs will be trashed by the spraying of this pneumonic bug which mushes your lungs within hours.
DON'T accept any vaccines which have not been tested.
Take Vitamin D3 5000iu minimum and Vitamin C 500iu during this bug-ridden phase.

THE eXchanger · 01-09-2010, 02:09 AM

doesn't cold weather kill germs ???

micjer · 01-09-2010, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

doesn't cold weather kill germs ???

Sure does.

I like your avatar change btw.

Not that I didn't like your old one!

Truth Vibrations · 01-10-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

doesn't cold weather kill germs ???

That's what I've heard.

gscraig · 01-10-2010, 01:58 PM

Hello All,
The observations being shared in this thread gave me a feeling that this would be a good time to share something, that may mean absolutely nothing.

Roughly 2-3 months ago I had a dream that it snowed in Mexico. I don't know when this occurred or how. The news reached far across most of the world and some people were excited and thought it was incredible, while others saw it as a sign or a beginning of something worse to come.

Please note: I have remembered maybe 2 dreams a year for the past 10 years. However, over the last 4 months, I have remembered 4-5.

Just figured this was the time and thread to share this, opposed to initially not at all.

01-08-2010, 06:18 PM	#1
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze I lived in a small town in Northern Ontario for 15 years it was not uncommon during the 60`s early 70`s to see the temp @ -40F in fact the town I used to live in set the record one year for coldest Temp ever recorded in Ontaio -73F

01-08-2010, 06:22 PM	#2
Phr0z3n Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 59	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze It's really funny that most people just say that we have global warming and that's it. They fail to realize that the end result of global warming is global cooling. If greenland melts due to global warming the fresh water shutsdown the atlantic conveyor belt stopping the flow of warm water to the north. Affecting weather patterns and plunging the earth into a cooling stage. Hell even the movie the Day after tomorrow played out this scenario.

01-08-2010, 07:14 PM	#5
Fredkc Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, ca. Posts: 898	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze ok, before we wind up blaming the US for this, just because many people seem to know about our HAARP, a couple of items. 1. There are 12-15 HAARP facilities operated by various countries world-wide, and these are just the ones they'll admit to. The Russians built theirs first, actually. Two "coincidences" from that program: 1. That the years the "woodpecker" was operating, a high pressure zone parked itself just offshore of Califoirnia, causing a 4 year drought. One of our worst on record. Also, once ours came online, the woodpecker stopped, and so did California's drought. 2. The year after Katrina, a large high parked itself off the east coast, turning away every hurricane that came our way. the same high appeared every year for the next three years, as well. 2. because of the nature of the science/weapon, the activities of all of them, and who did what, is completely untraceable. HAARP effects can be bounced off the upper atmosphere so that their affects can be placed wherever wished. This means the fact this latest event was positioned over Norway's HAARP, and timed to match the EISCAT tests is either: a) Proof it was Norway, or the EU. Or... b) A well disguised act by someone else, since both the Norway's HAARP location, and the scheduled EISCAT test were common public knowledge. 3. Consider the fact that you have, at least, Russia, US, China, EU, Norway, all involved in what amounts to "Weather Warfare"! Like all wars it escalates, involving more and more energy. All the different factions are engaged in both: a) Diddling with the "other guy", and b) A running defensive practice on their own region's weather. Since, as I said above, all of this is "untraceable", no one will either admit to it, nor accuse the other of what it knows they do as well! And neither can they stop doing it! ________________________________________ "Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." - Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. *"All weather is now manufactured. Period."* - Scott Stevens I have a bunch more I can post on this, if anyone cares. Seems like I have posted it several times, with little response, but I will again, if there is an interest. Fred __________________ "Life IS mystical! It's just that we're used to it" Evil cannot be killed. Only redeemed. Chat us up at: Avalon Chat

01-11-2010, 11:41 PM	#12
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze I will probably get shot in the ass for this but, i think we are just experiencing a cold front. I left birmingham (uk) 20 years ago to move south, before I left, and im talking days before i left, i walked to the dentist and my wellies filled with snow, poeple froze in their cars, people died in their homes etc. Just a cold front.

01-08-2010, 07:51 PM	#14
jem284 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Trenton Michigan Posts: 24	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze I think that all the HAARP's and Countries are working some what together to experiment on us to promote fear for control and to see about down sizing the population.

01-08-2010, 08:08 PM	#16
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze Haha. White River is going to have to change their welcome sign to SECOND coldest. Still damm cold. Beat them by .94 degrees.

01-08-2010, 08:13 PM	#17
Shaynard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 161	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze Mother Nature is a master when it comes to balancing herself. Climate change is happening, perhaps just not for the reasons some say. This winter (in my small town north of Toronto Ontario) is having a very cold and snow covered winter, after a not very warm summer. Very different from 5yrs ago. It's been interesting to witness although anything beyond "nature" effecting this is beyond me. (meaning I know of nothing that would cause this, the OP article raises some good questions though) The Eiscat center is not run by the American Government to the best of my knowledge. There is interesting data to support the possibility of it being operated by the Russians, but this is something I can't confirm myself for sure. I have enjoyed the OP and thread, thank you NorthernSanctuary. In light, of love Shaynard

01-08-2010, 10:06 PM	#18
Truth Vibrations Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 40	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze Hi folks, I'm in the UK and I can tell you firsthand that the temperatures are dropping like a lead balloon, -22C in places! It's fffrreezzing right now with icy fog making matters worse. I've never known it so cold. Forecasters predict that this will continue for another week or two. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8448399.stm http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...itain-1.996940 These are very interesting times indeed. Last edited by Truth Vibrations; 01-08-2010 at 10:12 PM.

01-08-2010, 10:52 PM	#19
Myplanet2 In The Mists Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,133	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze I can't imagine -70. Even -45 freezes your nostrils on each in breath, and you can't have skin exposed for more than a couple of minutes before your body goes into emergency mode. That's not a survivable temp without reliable shelter. Must have been havoc on liquid cooled, gas powered vehicles too. was anything running?

01-09-2010, 12:18 AM	#20
Firstlook Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 161	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze isnt the gulf stream slowing down? could be that?

01-09-2010, 02:00 AM	#21
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze Bottom line - too many coincidences with that Norwegian atmospheric 'experiment', and the 'owners' of the facilities are not the EU/USA/whomsover but the funders of this global experiment. Follow the money - who will profit from a desperate need for energy to heat our homes/grow our crops/bring us to our knees for fuel? They can then hike their prices... We are supposed to be therefore beholden to them. Time for the Tesla energies to be activated globally - we've been used and abused enough - THEY DON'T FOOL US ANY MORE. Their 'pandemic' eugenics and globalistic murdering manipulations (initial phase not terribly successful) are now so transparent, that when the sprayed-on impossibly 'mutated HiN1' to D225E And D225N is the next phase of eugenics - the weakened immune systems of those vaccinated with squalene adjuvants from initial 'swine flu' jabs will be trashed by the spraying of this pneumonic bug which mushes your lungs within hours. DON'T accept any vaccines which have not been tested. Take Vitamin D3 5000iu minimum and Vitamin C 500iu during this bug-ridden phase.

01-09-2010, 02:09 AM	#22
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze doesn't cold weather kill germs ???

01-10-2010, 01:58 PM	#25
gscraig Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 335	Re: Norway Spiral Impact on Northern Hemisphere Deep Freeze Hello All, The observations being shared in this thread gave me a feeling that this would be a good time to share something, that may mean absolutely nothing. Roughly 2-3 months ago I had a dream that it snowed in Mexico. I don't know when this occurred or how. The news reached far across most of the world and some people were excited and thought it was incredible, while others saw it as a sign or a beginning of something worse to come. Please note: I have remembered maybe 2 dreams a year for the past 10 years. However, over the last 4 months, I have remembered 4-5. Just figured this was the time and thread to share this, opposed to initially not at all.