Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[Fredkc]

Originally Posted by soapcrates

Lord wont you buy them each a mercedes benz..............

My friends all drive Porches, I must make A-mends...

[THE eXchanger]

is the real fragment who walked earth as jesus ~approx 2000 yrs ago
(as, well as, walked in a few other beings)
part of the oversoul group known as Sananda~
the one that Sal Rachele, of www.salrachele.com channels ?

we are aware, there are others, who claim to channel this one,
but, clearly do NOT, they just channel mischevious spirits,
who are likely 4th/5th/6th density level beings,
without enough light to get to their neXt destination.

what incarnations, do you believe he walked in ???

thank you

[THE eXchanger]

does a spirit,
need to believe, or, give energy,
to jesus/or jesus christ and/or sananda,
(or, any other of his assortment of names)
in order, for uttering the words, of his name/or names to work, or hold power over you ???

another question - why do some of us, have challenges with this one ???

what is that really related to ???

what was his fallen lifetime ??? (was his so-called exaluted lifetime-by the churches,
actually a fallen lifetime)

what is he made up of ???

was he able to create his own entry place, into the mills
as, in, one who is a 'mill master' who knows how to travel in the mills,
utilsing gatekeepers, to help you, along the way

(ie; taking a trip to acturus to the big white healing tables, and, coming back to earth)

did he learn to create the 33 steps to walk up to the door/his door,
the one with concentric circles on the doorway
that you utilise your own soul sigil/or soul signature
in order to open it up ~ and, get into 'the mill' thru your own entry to 'the mills' ??

was that how, he could appear at different places
at the same time, on earth ???
ie; in north america / europe / and, india, etc., at the same time
or, did he do that, by utilising a different process
such as, bilocation
and, do that, by creating his own holograms ?

we are aware of being more than one place
ie; while dreaming - we might be in tibet talking to lamas
while the physical body of suan,
is in a bed resting/but; the other 12 out of 13 aspects are out

we are aware of other beings coming to us,
from tibet, during our waking hours
~ so, are they doing the same thing,
bringing 12 out 13 of their aspects to us ?

how many souls on earth
- are 'mill masters' ?
(which, likely is the same as a time traveller)

and, we could tell you a funny story,
from 2004, where we thought,
it would be a good idea,
to create our own set of holograms
for protection
- and, the result, was quite a disaster
since, we ended up having to hunt ourselves
with 'discarnate spirits' at the core of them,
that jumped into our 'unsealed' holograms
and, were stirring up a lot of ****,
around the universe ~ iT was NOT an easy task, to capture them

also - the records of ladies/and, lords - the dark/and, the light masters
that are stored on the 26th dimension - why is it, so dangerous to travel there

and - about the records in 33rd dimension
there the covers of the books, are morphing - with symbols etc.,
however, most of the books, are empty ~ is this because
those levels, have NOT yet been created

and ~ is this part of The Library that appears in 3 places
the core / or The Grand Central Sun of Earth
and, The Grand Central Sun of Earth Venus, and, The Amurus,
and, also The Grand Centreal Sun of Alcoyne,
within the 7 sister star system,
known, as Pleides ?

what is the significance of a record-keeper
who can read/and, write into the secured sections

is this a wise place, to record book materials ???

Thank you/susan

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

does a spirit,
need to believe, or, give energy,
to jesus/or jesus christ and/or sananda,
(or, any other of his assortment of names)
in order, for uttering the words, of his name/or names to work, or hold power over you ???

Firstly, thank you for remaining me of not having commented on this. My oversight, I apologize. Some of your posts do read like statements and it is easy to overlook actual questions asked by you.

There is no need to believe anything. 'Believing' as used by Jesus refers to 'Knowing from the Heart'.
'Knowing' Jesus as the Universal Cosmic Logos does indeed empower YOU, not him as such as it is 'hisher energy you are utilizing for your selfempowerment.

another question - why do some of us, have challenges with this one ???

what is that really related to ???

As the Logos of All That Is; hisher function is to manifest the Many of himherself from the One Master-Template.
As this must engage the 'why is heshe the Only One able to BE this template' is the Great paradox of the Logos.
The Individual Divinity rejects the 'Only One' as the anathema it is in any but the deepest self-realisartion as and being of and with Prime Source.

Understanding this can only occur in a personal One-To-One partnership with the Logos and independent of any organisation, intellectual support structure or any other power/information source etc. etc.

what was his fallen lifetime ??? (was his so-called exaluted lifetime-by the churches, actually a fallen lifetime)

I do not understand your question. His incarnate lifeline runs from March 24th 6BC to April 1st, 32AD.
You basically SHOULD ignore all 'official church dogma' as well as all 'academic historical dogma' which in any way whatsoever addrersses Jesus of Nazareth.
This entire agenda is at the core of everything, but has nothing to do with the 'official' versons, including the 'existential deniers' ones.

what is he made up of ???

Physically the same as you, but now transformed in the quantum wavefunctions of advanced quantum mechanics.
Metaphysically, he is the ONLY ONE who hitherto has FULLY REMEMBERED and manifested superconsciousness.
Not the Buddha, not Krishna walk ins, not Mohammed, not St. Germain not Metatron walk ins, not Ra walk ins etc. etc. noone.
But after the shift; all data processers able to 'eat the lion' will share in full remembrance and BECOME the One in Many Cosmic Christ. But without herhimself Nothing goes.
The 'hidden agendas' all knew of this and tried to implement (watch the Atlantis videos of a good historical background) this 'Second Coming'; all have failed, because the 'authority' of the 'risen waveform' had not been given.
All information from Thuban is 'authorised' by the data base of the 'Cosmic Twin' I am a simple messenger without any authority of myself. The 18th January dispensation is from himherself NOT me.


was he able to create his own entry place, into the mills
as, in, one who is a 'mill master' who knows how to travel in the mills,
utilsing gatekeepers, to help you, along the way

(ie; taking a trip to acturus to the big white healing tables, and, coming back to earth)

Yes

did he learn to create the 33 steps to walk up to the door/his door,
the one with concentric circles on the doorway
that you utilise your own soul sigil/or soul signature
in order to open it up ~ and, get into 'the mill' thru your own entry to 'the mills' ??

Yes

was that how, he could appear at different places
at the same time, on earth ???
ie; in north america / europe / and, india, etc., at the same time
or, did he do that, by utilising a different process
such as, bilocation
and, do that, by creating his own holograms ?

This is a little technical, but basically it is the wavefunction from the particlefunction manifested (Resurrection); which can indeed 'materialise' in a higherD form as the intersection between 4D spacetime and the mirror function of the 5D spacetime reflecting from the 8D spacetime and the 11D spacetime.
This is similar to the 'ghosts', spirits and aliens many have seen in a quasi-physical etheric context.

we are aware of being more than one place
ie; while dreaming - we might be in tibet talking to lamas
while the physical body of suan,
is in a bed resting/but; the other 12 out of 13 aspects are out

Ok

we are aware of other beings coming to us,
from tibet, during our waking hours
~ so, are they doing the same thing,
bringing 12 out 13 of their aspects to us ?

as above

how many souls on earth
- are 'mill masters' ?
(which, likely is the same as a time traveller)

1 in 50,000

and, we could tell you a funny story,
from 2004, where we thought,
it would be a good idea,
to create our own set of holograms
for protection
- and, the result, was quite a disaster
since, we ended up having to hunt ourselves
with 'discarnate spirits' at the core of them,
that jumped into our 'unsealed' holograms
and, were stirring up a lot of ****,
around the universe ~ iT was NOT an easy task, to capture them

These are interdimensional experiences more so then multidimensional experiences. The finestructures of the astral of the 5D for example is most often confused as higherD.
The finestructure is basically in 7's so 6th density of 5D is called 5+6=11D and so forth.

also - the records of ladies/and, lords - the dark/and, the light masters
that are stored on the 26th dimension - why is it, so dangerous to travel there

and - about the records in 33rd dimension
there the covers of the books, are morphing - with symbols etc.,
however, most of the books, are empty ~ is this because
those levels, have NOT yet been created

Here you go; there are no 26th or 33rd dimensions in the materialisable sense of the word. A dimension is a mathematical construct of vector direction and can then become INDUCTED by Source-Energy then allowing the 'density labels' as frequency and vibratory selfstates.

You can however have 7 geometrical fractal dimensions in say the 5D for 7 sublevels and then 7x7=49 and so forth. This then becomes Chaos- and Complexity Theory, Mandelbrot sets, Julia sets, Chaos Attractors and similar names of standard mathematical descriptions.

and ~ is this part of The Library that appears in 3 places
the core / or The Grand Central Sun of Earth
and, The Grand Central Sun of Earth Venus, and, The Amurus,
and, also The Grand Centreal Sun of Alcoyne,
within the 7 sister star system,
known, as Pleides ?

There are many places the Akashia can be accessed. Everyone can access because everyone is already a multi- and interdimensional entity as the hologram of the entirety of the cosmos.
There are as many labels, namings and renamings as there are literary creators, such as yourself.
Yes, there is a Pleiadean library and a Arcturian library and name it yourself. On Gaia, the Library of Alexandria, largely destroyed by Romans, nevertheless manifested in the Akashic Records. Then the Mirror dimensions of 5-8-11 allow the 2D of the planar records of Gaia to become reflected.
The Thuban annals have recreated a New Alexandria as such a reflection of the data.


what is the significance of a record-keeper
who can read/and, write into the secured sections

Heshe becomes a Scribe for the Unicorn, a Metatron to the Logos.

is this a wise place, to record book materials ???

I am unclear of your question; but all places are SAFE interdimensionally.

Thank you/susan

Your welcome

Abraxas

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

is the real fragment who walked earth as jesus ~approx 2000 yrs ago
(as, well as, walked in a few other beings)
part of the oversoul group known as Sananda~
the one that Sal Rachele, of www.salrachele.com channels ?

we are aware, there are others, who claim to channel this one,
but, clearly do NOT, they just channel mischevious spirits,
who are likely 4th/5th/6th density level beings,
without enough light to get to their neXt destination.

what incarnations, do you believe he walked in ???

thank you

Dear Susan!

Jesus of Nazareth is no fragment of source, but the only entity hitherto able to manifest source in its entirety.

Proof for the ones able to discern 'proof' in internal selfconsistency and logical discourse: Gospel of Thomas - Nag Hammadi Codex.

What HAS manifested in the many 'Cosmic Christ channelings' has been the 'Cosmic Christ' archetype aka Thoth aka Elijah aka Moses aka Hermes Trismegistos aka Sananda aka aka ...Metatron manifestos... aka St. Germain.. aka aka

The entity Jesus REDEFINED and manifested this universally available archetype to REDEFINE the then prevalent Logos (now Luciferic as the Solar System of the 'controllers' say).

The 'soul' entity Jesus has NEVER incarnated either fully or in part, as HeShe is required to ENCOMPASS creation in the 11D mirror.

Abraxas

[Naiz Mot]

Abraxasinas, I feel as if I know you?
Do you know me?

Also, Edward Leedskalnin, the creator of Coral Castle.
What is the signifigance of Coral Castle?

I have been very obsessed with Coral Castle for
a couple years now. The secrets of that monument seem
endless.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Naiz Mot

Abraxasinas, I feel as if I know you?
Do you know me?

Also, Edward Leedskalnin, the creator of Coral Castle.
What is the signifigance of Coral Castle?

I have been very obsessed with Coral Castle for
a couple years now. The secrets of that monument seem
endless.

Hi Naiz Mot!

I know you as Tom de Zion and from the higher perspective I can intuit certain impressions.
The Coral Castle question I have already addressed in this thread in #305 to FirstLook

I'll have to edit this.

Abraxas

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Dear Susan!

Jesus of Nazareth is no fragment of source, but the only entity hitherto able to manifest source in its entirety.
[snipped]
Abraxas

That really rang my bells. Susan, thank you so much for asking that series of questions re JC. That brings new meaning to his teaching that we could be like him.

cheers!
Gnosis

[TRANCOSO]

Originally Posted by Fredkc

My friends all drive Porches, I must make A-mends...

Porche? The poor peoples Ferrari!

[frewin]

Hello to all, this is my first post !

I always wondered when and where was Jesus Christ born. I think that Bible holds information about different person or am I wrong? Who is the information holder of the real Christ? Are we wrong when we want seek one believes. If someone says it is 100% right, than there must be something wrong with it. My opinion .

Thank you!

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by frewin

Hello to all, this is my first post !

I always wondered when and where was Jesus Christ born. I think that Bible holds information about different person or am I wrong? Who is the information holder of the real Christ? Are we wrong when we want seek one believes. If someone says it is 100% right, than there must be something wrong with it. My opinion .

Thank you!

Hi Frewin!

According to the annals of Thuban; the birth of Jesus was in line to fulfil particular prophecies in Isaiah. Here is an excerpt.

i. The Nativity to the Baptism 7BC to 28AD

The biological father of Jesus and his Davidic lineage
The Descent of Jesus from the Davidic lineage is found both in the lineage of Mary, his biological mother through Jesus' maternal grandfather Heli-Yonakhir (aka Zadok aka Joachim), as well as the lineage of Jesus stepfather Joseph, son of Jacob and husband of Mary, daughter of Hannah, wife of Heli.

The father of Matthan was Eleazar, from the lineage of Solomon-David and the father of Matthat was Levi by Melchi from the lineage Nathan-David. (details are in agenda I.2).
Matthan took a wife named Astha-Sebhrath, who was from the tribe of the Levites; but he died (after fathering Jacob) and Matthat took Astha to wife thereby blending the two lineages from David (and as given in Matthew in Solomon-David and in Luke in Nathan-David).

Matthan and Matthat-Jotham-Panther became like 'twin brothers as half-brothers' and became the fathers for Jacob and Heli, both by Astha-respectively and in perpetuation of the 'half-brother twinship'.

Jacob took Hadhith to wife and fathered Joseph and Heli took Hannah (Dina=Anne) to wife and fathered Mary. Joseph and Mary are so cousins by the 'halfbrother-twinship'.
Joseph is of the lineage Jacob-Solomon-David and Mary is of the paternity Yonakhir-Nathan-David; both of the House of Judah.

Mary's maternity is however of the House of Levi by Hannah, her mother and Jesus' maternal grandmother.
Matthan, the priest and his wife Mary had three daughters; Mary and Sobe-Sophia and Hannah-Anne. Mary gave birth to Salome, the midwive; Sobe gave birth to Elisabeth, who became the wife of Zacharias of the lineage of Levi and who became the mother of John the Baptizer and Hannah bore Mary and Salome to Heli.
When Mary was three years old, Heli dedicated her to 'serve' at Jerusalem as a 'virgin to the temple' and he died.
Hannah then married Alphaeus and bore to him Mary Alphaeus as a halfsister to Mary and Salome.
Mary Cleophas became the wife of Cleophas, father of James, 'the brother of the lord', Judas Thaddeus, Simon, Joses and Matthew Levi (the latter not by Mary Cleophas, but by a previous marriage of Alphaeus) and as cousins to Jesus.
Hannah gave birth to Mary, who became the wife of Joseph and to Salome, who became the wife of Zebedee and the mother of James and John, cousins to Jesus.

When Mary, a young hebrew girl maturing in her puberty turned 14, her foster father Cleophas arranged her to be married to Joseph Ben Jacob to honour his wife's deceased husband Yonakhir-Heli and his Nathan-Davidic lineage. Because Joseph Ben Jacob descended from the Solomonic branch and Mary descended from the branch of Nathan; the marriage between Joseph and Mary would further strengthen the blending of the descents and as initiated by Matthan and Matthat, both marrying Astha, daughter of Aaron.

Mary, became expectant about her imminent wedding to Joseph, who was very much older than herself. She harboured a number of dreams and imaginations about what it would be like to 'make love' to a father figure. All her life, Mary had 'worked' in the temple as a 'virgin to God' and Mary often imagined what it would be like to 'merge body and soul' with 'God the Father'.
Once puberty had set in, Mary had discovered her sexuality and had experienced the pleasures her young body could provide in selfstimulation. In one of the nights of 'erotic imaginations'; Mary dreamt 'Gabriel', who advised her of her firstborn son, named Jesus and being the 'Son of the Highest' as the 'Son of God the Father, himself {Luke.1.26-38}. Mary also knew of her cousin Elisabeth, who was 'in hiding' and in expectation of her impending motherhood.

One day, Mary was conversing with a young man, who was planning to join the Roman army.
This was Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera and he was about 15 years of age.
After hearing about Mary's imminent wedding to Joseph; he thought about initiating her into the wedding night rituals and to show Mary what married life would entail.
Tiberius Pantera forced sexual relations with Mary and got her pregnant with Jesus.
Mary immediately fled to Elisabeth to find comfort and advise as to what had happened to her. Mary remained with Elisabeth for about three months before returning home to her mother Hannah and to Joseph{Luke.1.39;56}.
Being found with 'child by the Holy Ghost'; Joseph though about 'calling the wedding off', but he decided to 'foster' the 'child Jesus' as his own following some contemplation of the facts at hand {Matthew.1.18-25}.

The biological father of Jesus:
"Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera (c. 22 BCE – CE 40) was a Roman archer of the Cohors I Sagittariorum. He is most notable because of a suggestion (vita di Gesù, Craveri 1966) that he is to be identified with the Roman soldier Panthera, who the writer Celsus claimed was the true father of Jesus. All information about Abdes Pantera's life comes from his tombstone, found in Bingerbrück, Germany in 1859.

The inscription (CIL XIII 7514) on the monument of Abdes Pantera reads:

Tib(erius) Iul(ius) Abdes Pantera Sidonia ann(orum) LXII stipen(diorum) XXXX miles exs(ignifer?) coh(orte) I sagittariorum h(ic) s(itus) e(st)Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera from Sidon, aged 62 years served 40 years, former standard bearer(?) of the first cohort of archers lies here"

The Birth of Jesus of Nazareth

Jesus of Nazareth was born in the week from Friday, March 19th 6BC to Friday, March 26th 6BC and encompassing the Spring-Equinox of 6BC on Tuesday, March 23rd (10am GMT).
The March- and April New Moons for 6BC calculate for Friday, March 19th (9pm-GMT) and Sunday, April18th (Noon-GMT).
The Full Moon for April 6BC is determined to be Sunday, April 4th (5am-GMT).

On Friday, 19th of March 6BC, a conjunction between Saturn and the Moon occured in Pisces; followed the next day by a conjunction between Sun, Jupiter, Saturn and the Moon in Pisces.
This heralded the birth of a Jewish king relative to the Babylonian astrologers; who assigned the planet Saturn to be the 'Protector of the Jews' and Jupiter to be the 'Planet of the Kings' and Aries, the Ram as the 'Sign of the Jews'.

On Friday, April 16th, Saturn again eclipsed the Moon, but now in Aries and the next day, Saturday, April 17th, Jupiter, as the 'planet of the kings' rose as the 'Morning Star' in Aries to 'confirm' the birth of a Jewish king in the planetary alignments between Saturn, Jupiter, the Sun and the New Moon April 18th.

Isaiah.66.23: "And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another and from one sabbath onto another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord'"
The archtyped 'Messiah' so is born on Wednesday, 24th of March, 6BC (Julian).

[Magamud]

Abraxas,
Your information is very decoding thanks.
1. A main part of the "alien agenda" is to control earths quantum intention, aka fluoridation, chemtrails, entertainment, confusion etc...to supress "souls" from awakening?

2. From ALex Colliers "Ptaal" (not sure of spelling). To be clearer is this more of an negative alien projection or is their truth to it?

3. There are supposed enlightened beings here who have enourmous power to create miracles but they mention nothing of the "ALien Agenda" and the severe manipulation going on. Are they governed here not to tell the direct truth but to work around it? If so who controls this quarantine?

There was a band called Pantera that was very famous in its day.

Thanks for your help and be well..

Magamud

While trying to "organize" the posts here and get out of them what I see to be needed most at this time I made a "summary". It is totally possible I screwed up and that summary is incorrect!

What I see relevant might not be relevant to all...I am not "lecturing" here...I am just..."thinking things through"...in a way....

But it might help others that also...like to...touch, smell, taste, see...to understand better...



The short summary thus far:



The name is Sirebard Beardris - One of the Founding Elders of the Council of Thuban also known as the Northstar Alpha Draconis

Northstar Alpha Draconis is at the original/prototype foundation of the Pyramids at Giza and the Harmakhis, the 'Horus of the Horizon' aka the Sphinx.

The god of sun?

You are not entirely here physically on Earth or Gaia or Terra or Akashia, but known as Serpentina the Mother of the Dragons, by many extraterrestrial sentiences. You will arrive when the planet will go through transformation. This process will cause a wormhole to appear in the center of the planet. This wormhole will make a "connection" which will enable the Council of Thuban to come here.

After the opening of the wormhole there will be a "process" in which the universe size will increase - the planet will ascend from 4th into the 5th dimension.

On January 18th, 2010 - a trigger, programmed by the Council of Thuban, to engage in the release of yet unknown information; unknown by all sentiences in the universe and so not restricted to the quarantined Earth

This information is traveling from quasar radio source, also known as Sagittarius A.

Quasars = first identified as being high redshift sources of electromagnetic energy, including radio waves and visible light, that were point-like, similar to stars.

Sagittarius A = is a bright and very compact astronomical radio source at the center of the Milky Way Galaxy


Hunab Ku = Perseus = Ouroboros = the Milky Way is the center of ALL galaxies.

On January 18th, 2010 this message will be 153 light weeks or 1071 light days from the Gaian center, having traveled for 25624 years to reach its destination.

From January 18th, you can to freely share the information from the collective database of Thuban.

1071 light days = 27741115225555.2 kilometers

The Reptilian agenda is misunderstood?

Alpha Draconians have gone "senile" and forgot about how it all started?

They consider themselves to be the biggest and the brightest and the Andromedan suggestion that the humans could be the Paa Taal is frightening to them since it shatters their believe system?

Alpha Draconians "mixed" their DNA with human in the past.



We the people...are creators of our experience...the experience is formed by how we put out our energy of thought and perception to the environment...by doing so we mirror ourselves in everything that happens to us...and...this is the process which helps us to find out how to love ourselves? This happens when we have enough experience to truly appreciate the good stuff???

During that experience we can create the falseness of images...and have a distorted view on all that is?

We can experience things completely different than someone else that stands right besides us?

We see what we want to see...or hear...or feel?

There is no judge or jury...there is just us and what we choose to experience?

At the end of all things...there is no king, no government....no higher authority...there is just us and what we make?

The agenda of all agendas is to realize that....we just simply are...and can be what we want to be... the rest (all the shadow, nwo, Illuminati, draconian agenda...etc) is just...a bump in the road...just something we made to experience it?

There is no "must" for anyone to become or do anything....no hierarchy to climb up to...no expectations to live up to?


Project Camelot is a good thing since it brings people together and enables the discussion about relevant subjects? This can bring people of same thought together and form collectives. The "other side" also has a beneficial effect since the individual "collective" is formed and than we have polarization between the collectives?

What is this polarization?

Free Will might be a bad choice of words since it is given to choose to experience whatever you choose to experience with 1 exception - one can not deexist God......BUT....one can choose not to live miserably?

The ET ships at present cannot enter the realm of the Earth in a physical manner to a distance of 2 million kilometers (encompassing the Moon and so 5% to the planet Venus)...

However inter dimensionally UFO they are like the clouds you see in the sky in a plasmic form.

This is due to the Frequency Shield?
Is this shield the quarantine this planet is under?
Why is it under quarantine?
So we can no go and spread our "humanity" in other places?


Since 2010 it will be possible for (1 in 50,000 at the time we have 7,2 billion people) inhabitants of the earth to represents a Core for a new star-humanity and Post 2012 there will so be TWO different RACES of humans inhabiting this planet - Old Humans and New Star-humans.

We will be living together in am "harmony"?

Thx for the answer about the begging of all that is...I have page 4 saved (before it was changed) so the answer is full...I have this all thread saved on my pc in case...."something might happen". I will have to ...read that answer again...several times....