Has anyone actually seen a PLEIADIAN

[micjer]

I feel it has to be done gradually. Actually the way it is happening. More and more sightings. Get MSM to show more and more evidence. Get people talking.

If more and more non believers see things with their own eyes, they will certainly start questioning their beliefs.

Warm them up and then full disclosure. Too sudden and total chaos. There a lot of good folk in the bible belt for example that need a gentle transition. I have some wonderful relatives that have been very faithful to their religion, and for them to have their world turned upside down would be very traumatic.




I wonder what percent of the population actually still believes that we are alone? It actually might be a lot lower percent than what we are told.

[gwynned]

Originally Posted by micjer

I feel it has to be done gradually. Actually the way it is happening. More and more sightings. Get MSM to show more and more evidence. Get people talking.

If more and more non believers see things with their own eyes, they will certainly start questioning their beliefs.

Warm them up and then full disclosure. Too sudden and total chaos. There a lot of good folk in the bible belt for example that need a gentle transition. I have some wonderful relatives that have been very faithful to their religion, and for them to have their world turned upside down would be very traumatic.




I wonder what percent of the population actually still believes that we are alone? It actually might be a lot lower percent than what we are told.

I believe you are right. I don't know the number, but a substantial majority of people believe we are not alone. Logic would dictate that, if the ETs were NOT benevolent, why are they waiting? They would obviously have advanced technology, so it would make no sense to make their presence known but not land and take over, if that was their intention. Why wait? I tend to agree with James Gilliland that there is a concerted effort on the part of some in the UFO world to demonize the ETs to try and protect the interest of those currently in power.

My guess about the Vatican disclosure is that they know what is coming and don't want to look like they've been hiding information or deceiving people for centuries. Just a guess.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by gwynned

My guess about the Vatican disclosure is that they know what is coming and don't want to look like they've been hiding information or deceiving people for centuries. Just a guess.

You are correct here I think. If you can't beat them ......Join them mentality. Oh they know! When we look at the symbolism around the Vatican....they know!

[DOMINIC 777]

Mnay religions , sects and skeptics do not believe in E.T . and the fundamnetal christians certainly do not...therefore there are billions of people who are still in darkness
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dom

Originally Posted by micjer

I feel it has to be done gradually. Actually the way it is happening. More and more sightings. Get MSM to show more and more evidence. Get people talking.

If more and more non believers see things with their own eyes, they will certainly start questioning their beliefs.

Warm them up and then full disclosure. Too sudden and total chaos. There a lot of good folk in the bible belt for example that need a gentle transition. I have some wonderful relatives that have been very faithful to their religion, and for them to have their world turned upside down would be very traumatic.




I wonder what percent of the population actually still believes that we are alone? It actually might be a lot lower percent than what we are told.

[micjer]

It is along the lines of still believing in Santa Claus, to think we are alone in the universe.


Full disclosure would sure cause a disruption at Sunday service wouldn't it.

[DOMINIC 777]

I agree,
but their are still millions of skeptics and religious people who do not want to believe in it, if mass discloser takes place this will affect them emotionallly and may even shatter their reality .....what do you think?
lol
dom

Originally Posted by micjer

It is along the lines of still believing in Santa Claus, to think we are alone in the universe.


Full disclosure would sure cause a disruption at Sunday service wouldn't it.

[Jacqui D]

Would disclosure cause madness/hysteria in the populace! I think so for the majority of the closed minds this would undoubtedly be to hard to comprehend.
I have to agree that perhaps the only way slowly integrating it into the media via films/tv etc may ultimately make a break through, but this has been been part of the plan for a long while now and how far have we come not that far i feel.
Perhaps the hand may be forced in which case chaos will follow unless those who do not believe suddenly have an overpowering surge of understanding in this knowledge, there will always be that divide.
I can understand why disclosure has been slow coming when there are so many minds closed.
Then if a sudden appearance was made, those minds which are closed would fear because of the indoctrination which we have been fed that all ET's are bad.
Once education is given about the true nature of who we all are can be brought into the system of all beliefs this will always be a problem that the humans will face.
Dom you have asked a extremely difficult question which i feel may have no answer.

[DOMINIC 777]

Well put , Jaccquie,I feel the same way as you do,millions are in darkness(ignorance)even seeing films is not reality.. disclosure will cause madness/hysteria in the populace! I think so for the majority of the closed minds this would undoubtedly be to hard to comprehend.Also it will shatter thieir sense of reality .......
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dom

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Would disclosure cause madness/hysteria in the populace! I think so for the majority of the closed minds this would undoubtedly be to hard to comprehend.
I have to agree that perhaps the only way slowly integrating it into the media via films/tv etc may ultimately make a break through, but this has been been part of the plan for a long while now and how far have we come not that far i feel.
Perhaps the hand may be forced in which case chaos will follow unless those who do not believe suddenly have an overpowering surge of understanding in this knowledge, there will always be that divide.
I can understand why disclosure has been slow coming when there are so many minds closed.
Then if a sudden appearance was made, those minds which are closed would fear because of the indoctrination which we have been fed that all ET's are bad.
Once education is given about the true nature of who we all are can be brought into the system of all beliefs this will always be a problem that the humans will face.
Dom you have asked a extremely difficult question which i feel may have no answer.

[micjer]

And here is the number one problem.....first thoughts will go to this movie.

Independance Day....

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by micjer

And here is the number one problem.....first thoughts will go to this movie.

Independance Day....

thank you micjer, will comment once I have seen the video
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dom

[DOMINIC 777]

Why are the E.T.s PORTRAYED AS BEING NEGATIVE......If they wanted to overun the Earth they could have done it a long time ago...therefore what is the reason behind these neg films?
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dom

Originally Posted by micjer

And here is the number one problem.....first thoughts will go to this movie.

Independance Day....

[micjer]

This is no different than the way both Holywood and Main stream media portray the Islamic people. Are all Islamic people terrorists. Of course not. 99.99999 percent of Islamic people are peace loving people. There is a very small percent that is not, yet the PTB want us to fear them all.

They are doing the same thing in portraying ET's.

It is all about placing fear into the sub-conscious ignorant minds of the unconscious majority.


There is so much sterotyping in this world. Many americans think Canadians live in Igloos and use dogsleds to go to town.

[DOMINIC 777]

I agree with what you say ,there is a great deal of indoctrination and conditioning and demonizing the enemy....any enemy......therefore the question is Why? Why do they make E.T'S negative?
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dom

Originally Posted by micjer

This is no different than the way both Holywood and Main stream media portray the Islamic people. Are all Islamic people terrorists. Of course not. 99.99999 percent of Islamic people are peace loving people. There is a very small percent that is not, yet the PTB want us to fear them all.

They are doing the same thing in portraying ET's.

It is all about placing fear into the sub-conscious ignorant minds of the unconscious majority.


There is so much sterotyping in this world. Many americans think Canadians live in Igloos and use dogsleds to go to town.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by DOMINIC 777

I agree with what you say ,there is a great deal of indoctrination and conditioning and demonizing the enemy....any enemy......therefore the question is Why? Why do they make E.T'S negative?
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dom

The way I look at this is like this.

Let's say you owned a flock of sheep. Now next door the neighbour has a very nice farm with lushious grass. You do not want your sheep to go there however.

How do you keep them from going there?

You implant fear into them. You put up either barbed wire, electric fence or have a border collie to scare them to stay at home.


It is all about fear and control. They don't want us to raise our frequencies. I believe that only individuals that are not living in fear and living in light and love frequencies will be able to see and communicate with these higher density beings.

[DOMINIC 777]

hello micjar,
again I agree with you, FEAR is the master key used ,however the E.T are far more cleverer than the negs therefore some sort of covert link up has been made by the positive E.T with Mankind...maybe telepahically or in the flesh so to speak,and the frequencies are being raised through the pineal gland and other means,therefore the frequencies cannot be stopped,therefore there is a master plan
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dom

Originally Posted by micjer

The way I look at this is like this.

Let's say you owned a flock of sheep. Now next door the neighbour has a very nice farm with lushious grass. You do not want your sheep to go there however.

How do you keep them from going there?

You implant fear into them. You put up either barbed wire, electric fence or have a border collie to scare them to stay at home.


It is all about fear and control. They don't want us to raise our frequencies. I believe that only individuals that are not living in fear and living in light and love frequencies will be able to see and communicate with these higher density beings.

[micjer]

Definately a master plan.

There are high ranking politicians in on this also.

The one thing that convinced me was when George W was told about the 9-11 tower being hit when he was in the classroom talking about goats. His reaction was one of total non surprise. It was like being told the movie had started, a script that he had already seen. ..... then he stayed and finished the goat story.

Life is a play and we are all just players in it.

Are we under quarantine at the moment. Is this holding up disclosure?

Cheers.

M.

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by DOMINIC 777

Well put , Jaccquie,I feel the same way as you do,millions are in darkness(ignorance)even seeing films is not reality.. disclosure will cause madness/hysteria in the populace! I think so for the majority of the closed minds this would undoubtedly be to hard to comprehend.Also it will shatter thieir sense of reality .......
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dom

tHerefore disclosure would not be too wise if it left millions of people FRIGHTENED ....

[lightblue]

what makes you sure that all e.t. are benevolent?

why not speak for yourselves rather than guess what would happen to others..human beings are more resourseful than that..

.i don't think individuals holding the key to disclosure are as philanthropic..and if there was a disclosure, what is it that we'd hear? would we haer the full story?I somehow feel they don't know it either...bw

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by lightblue

what makes you sure that all e.t. are benevolent?

why not speak for yourselves rather than guess what would happen to others..human beings are more resourseful than that..

.i don't think individuals holding the key to disclosure are as philanthropic..and if there was a disclosure, what is it that we'd hear? would we haer the full story?I somehow feel they don't know it either...bw

Thanks blue , i sent you a pm about it all
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dom

[lightblue]

one more thing

if our reality is unenviable like (greed, illnesses, tyrany, wars, controlm domination), why quite a few a few of you here say , shattering of reeality is unwelcome just yet? how many more eons do you prescribe? disheartening proposition...
the authotities in power don't shun from inducing fear any other way..from what you say, it follows that feer from seeing an e.t. would create a mother of all fears and that the authorities sincirely worry about our wellbeing..i don't feel that's tha case.. bw

[DOMINIC 777]

o.k
Thats fair enough.." Have you been confronted by an E.T. whatever species...and would YOU not be frightened?...there are skeptics and religious people who do not believe in E.T'S WHAT WOULD THEY FEEL LIKE?
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DOM

Originally Posted by lightblue

one more thing

if our reality in uneniablelike (greed, illnesses, tyrany, wars, controlm domination), why quite a few a few of you here say , shattering of reeality is unwelcome just yet? how many more eons do you prescribe? disheartening proposition...
the authotities in power don't shun from inducing fear any other way..from what you say, it follows that feer from seeing an e.t. would create a mother of all fears and that the authorities sincirely worry about our wellbeing..i don't feel that's tha case.. bw

[lightblue]

o.k
Thats fair enough.." Have you been confronted by an E.T. whatever species...and would YOU not be frightened?...there are skeptics and religious people who do not believe in E.T'S WHAT WOULD THEY FEEL LIKE?
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DOM

hi there

just why do you wprry about the skeptics and religious zelots? if the skeptics are skeptics, they'll continue to doubt, noone can stop that..if the religious dogma believers are sincere believers, they'd believe that wnat they are seeing is coming from the god - the way they believe in..why pontificate on the way things are to be believed - it's within our individual souls..

yoiur concern is political.

i feel if the e.t presence is positive, it would induce a good sense and if negative - fear , terror, unease..

why are you so protective of our unenviable reality?

bw

[lightblue]

....It was the last time I saw him, and I was hugely frustrated because I felt I was never going to get to talk to him or learn anything more about him, and there was so much I wanted to know. An enormous amount of energy came up to be released and it WAS like my "sense of reality was shattered". I also realized he wasn't going to "save" me, and illusions about being "saved' had to be relinquished, much to my disappointment....

hi onawah

you describe a very enlightening episode from your life experience..you also say that your sense of reality was shattered, but i didn't get the sense that you suffered from it..is that right?
i can see and believe when you say that you are disappointed to not have found out more about your therapist - but would that really be important?.from what i can understand, you have learned something about your own self which i feel was/is the point..

you also say that you are disaapppointed to find out that you won't be "saved" - is that one of the ways your sense of reality got shattered? did you previously really believe that we are here to be saved, so to speak?

best wishes

[onawah]

Originally Posted by lightblue

hi onawah

you describe a very enlightening episode from your life experience..you also say that your sense of reality was shattered, but i didn't get the sense that you suffered from it..is that right?
i can see and believe when you say that you are disappointed to not have found out more about your therapist - but would that really be important?.from what i can understand, you have learned something about your own self which i feel was/is the point..

you also say that you are disaapppointed to find out that you won't be "saved" - is that one of the waysd your senser of reality got shattered? did you previously really believe that we are here to be saved, so to speak?

best wishes

Thank you.
Yes, my sense of reality was shattered in a positive way because the experience opened up a whole new realm of possibility to me. I had been severely physically injured in the NDE experience and my body felt like a very undesirable, limiting and claustrophobic place to be. I wanted to escape it to live in a higher dimension, but I saw that this person, living in this very dimension, was at ease in his body and wasn't spending his life in an ashram, meditating and practicing yoga, etc.. I was feeling very sorry for myself, as I was still in a lot of physical pain, but this contact was such a blessing, I had to let go of that self pity in some part, at least.
Although I was frustrated that I was left with so many unanswered questions, I eventually realized what a gift I had been given and became grateful, and hopeful because I figured I must have been deserving of that help in some way. ( I had felt like I must have done something very bad which caused the NDE experience and the resulting disabilty, but after that experience, I was able to forgive myself more and take it all more in stride.)
At that time, there was much more in the way of guru seeking going on in the alternative community and not nearly as much awareness of ET presence. So in my spiritual quest, I had a preconditioned idea of what an Enlightenment experience consisted of. I was looking for teachers and fellow travelers on "the Path to Enlightenment". I didn't equate higher dimensional beings with ETs. Realizing that ETs, angels, higher dimensional beings, etc. were related changed my world view and opened it up in a way similar to the way gaining a better understanding of physics did.
3 D Earth also felt like a better place to be, if advanced ETs were taking the trouble to come here to be with us. I had been seeking an intentional community or ashram or some "safe" (saved) place where I could practice meditation and yoga and transcend 3D reality, escaping to a higher, more blissful realm.
But this young man had shown up in my everyday life without any fanfare, without me seeking him, and he wasn't wearing orange robes or advising anyone to renounce the world. In fact, he looked like a surfer dude!
So my attention was diverted from my notions of that traditional path of the past to something much more contemporary, pointing to a new paradigm and a much more expanded approach to spirituality. I relinquished the notion that I needed a guru and had to escape the world to achieve Enlightenment, and opened to the possibility that I was actually on a good path already, which gave me more hope and a better understanding of what living in the NOW really encompassed (and omitted-- in the way of wishful thinking).
It also gave birth to a new interest--in the Pleiadians. I sought more of the energy I had experienced in his presence and found it by opening myself up more to channeled messages from people like Barbara Marciniak etc. I took all the info with a grain of salt, but the energy was healing and I realized that even if I didn't believe everything, just looking at the possibilities of a more positive future for Earth as a member of the expanded galactic community was helping to ground me more in the here and now. I became more accepting of the possibility that I was probably not going to Nirvana --in this lifetime, anyway, but that Nirvana was possibly coming to Earth! That was very healing for me, because a lot of my emotional pain was actually on behalf of Gaia and the terrible disrespect I saw being paid to her.
I bless that young man and thank him so much for his appearance in my life. It really helped bring about some good changes in my outlook and direction.

[lightblue]

great account onawah

what clues do you have that your therapist is a pleidian and not any other ?

thanks and best wishes