Worship Is Not Necessary

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

I'm not a christian

It's a way to express the basic mentality of it, and the emotional level it touches.

Didn't mean it for you, it was something I had loaded up ready to go....

[Aztar]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

lol I know my mother's Mother

and I know She has a Husband

and many Children


the Light is above every Universal Laws

also the Law of Gender

Bingo

Spiritual Awakenings can be a smooth ride or a rough ride, its depends on several factors not all of which I am aware of, if you have studied eastern texts or indigenous cultures they speak of preparation for spiritual experiences, centuries of practices passed down verbally and textually by knowledgeable men and women who "prepare those who show signs" for what they will be awakening within themselves. This road to awakening has on it "Pitfalls" that if your not prepared for can distract, this isn't a bad thing really as the Universe has an endless supply of guidance, love and patience.

This is a Interesting Letter by a man named Sri Aurobindo about this process.

The Intermediate Zone
http://kundalini.se/aurobindo-sv.html

Of course mythology is full of these stories, These are tales that deal with personal spiritual growth as well as a Cultural & Universal Jungian Archetypes.
Joseph Campbell tells many of these tales in books such as;

The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949)
The Hero's Journey (1987)

When you no longer are compelled by desire and fear . . when you have seen the radiance in eternity from all forms of time . . when you follow your bliss . . doors will open where you would not have thought there were doors . . and the world will step in and help. Joseph Campbell

I have found that you have only to take that one step toward the gods, and they will then take ten steps toward you. That step, the heroic first step of the journey, is out of, or over the edge of, your boundaries, and it often must be taken before you know that you will. Joseph Campbell

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Aztar

I have found that you have only to take that one step toward the gods, and they will then take ten steps toward you. That step, the heroic first step of the journey, is out of, or over the edge of, your boundaries, and it often must be taken before you know that you will. Joseph Campbell

That's a perfect summary of my story. What I find to be extremely problematic, is that...

In translating the real into the summary type, wisdom type, philosophical analytical knowledge, the LIFE of it is LOST.

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

And usually that statement, at least in my case, where I am living the greatest true story ever told, that statement COMPLETELY negates the LIFE of it.

Not one person has made any statement whatsoever even remotely close to suggesting that this story has any relevance, it's all the same ol' same ol'.

No wonder the Goddess is very angry.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

one has to live it

to think speak and act it


head heart hands

must work in unison

else one is not believable


there is no blessing in lip service

it's just a mean to get ahead in this world


people are being played all the time

also by discarnate spirits

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

head heart hands must work in unison else one is not believable there is no blessing in lip service it's just a mean to get ahead in this world people are being played all the time also by discarnate spirits.

My point is the signs from god are obvious and unambiguous, and no one cares.

I didn't make them happen.

The signs and miracles appeared, OVER and OVER again, and paint an unambiguous picture.

The works are there and the words and the spirit is perfectly clear.

People just would rather die than admit someone is chosen or special.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

That's a perfect summary of my story. What I find to be extremely problematic, is that...

In translating the real into the summary type, wisdom type, philosophical analytical knowledge, the LIFE of it is LOST.

IOW, people believe the only necessary response to what is happening, is to analyze it and make a statement about it.

And usually that statement, at least in my case, where I am living the greatest true story ever told, that statement COMPLETELY negates the LIFE of it.

Not one person has made any statement whatsoever even remotely close to suggesting that this story has any relevance, it's all the same ol' same ol'.

No wonder the Goddess is very angry.

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

The Goddess Ma'at, but She didn't say her name.

I think it was Ma'at, because I was talking about the show Lost, a couple days before She spoke to me, and about Ma'at, and Egypt, and the Goddess that I think the island on the show LOST is going to be portrayed as...

The greatest true story ever told... That's why I say I am the New Age Messiah.

BTW... She said "I'm very angry.... cooking."

[14 Chakras]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I think I missed something here...which Goddess are you speaking of?

I mean no offence, I will simply suggest an alternative way of looking at "Ma-at" and the worship of mater. It is nice to have opportunity to discuss.

The "Goddess" being referred to is Ma'at, whom I would personally suggest is an Egyptian fallen being that represents the worship of matter ~ which is indeed anti-Christ and anti-Father because it is all about maintaining the illusion of separation, the illusion that spiritual is wrong and matter should never transcend itself, should stay in it's limited, suffering form for eternity, even while all the co-creators descend the depths of suffering and use up all their energy and light and are left with nothing.

This is what Ma'at and the fallen goddess consciousness represents (my personal take), the separation of spirit and matter. The denial of the Divine Father. The denial of the God Flame within all humanity. The denial of the Spiritual.

The return of the Divine Mother is at hand surely, however, I would personally say, the Divine Mother does not worship matter, rather it is Mater (Mater is Latin for Mother) and it is in perfect balance with the Divine Father, which is spiritual.

The goal of creation is to raise up the Mother so it meets the Father, not to deny the Father and worship only mater.

The balance of the Father Mother is our source. When we achieve balance within ourselves on Father Mother ~ then we are back in the Divine Flow of things...

As above so below, Mater is raised in vibration so that it is clear there is no separation from the spiritual. I AM a spiritual Being having a material experience in the sphere of Oneness.


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[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

You're just baiting me. I am not dumb.

Paul never said a word that Jesus taught. Paul never even mentioned Jesus being a teacher. Paul never mentioned the virgin birth.

IF Jesus was a great teacher and had all these amazing things to say, Paul would have elaborated upon them.

IF Jesus was born of a virgin, Paul would have mentioned it. The idea of messiah as propounded by Christianity RELIES on Jesus being born of a virgin.

Jesus was a militant rebel, trying to force the kingdom of god, like so many in his day and age did, but the kingdom of god was just an independent Israeli state.

Paul made up a religion on the fly. Jesus' teachings are nothing special, and sometimes hideous.

It's the Emperor not wearing clothes things. So much of modern spiritual stuff is based on Jesus being someone special and Israel being God's chosen people. Neither premise is true, both are false.

The Teachings of Jesus (regardless of the source) are the real deal. Most of the rest of the Bible is BS (as usually taught). Paul did not carry out the Great Commission found in Matthew 28:18-20. Egyptology may be the key to properly understanding the Bible. Also consider the Gospel of Thomas and the Book of Enoch. I don't trust any of the Gods and Goddesses. Jesus was opposed to the Royal Model of Divinity and Governance. Jesus could have been a rebel Egyptian insider/whistleblower. Jesus did not command people to build temples and cathedrals...in which to worship and praise him. So who might Christians really be worshipping and praising on Sun-God Day? Could human-sacrifice, worship, and praise really be reptilian requirements? I think we will always need art, music, architecture, churches, clergy, fellowship, etc...but without penitence, human-sacrifice, worship, praise, gods, and goddesses. I like the idea of an Ecumenical Namaste Mass based upon the Latin Mass...without worship, praise, penitence, and sacrifice...which effectively communicates Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Now they're really gonna burn me.

Better Dead Than Rep.

Namaste

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

The Teachings of Jesus (regardless of the source) are the real deal.

1). The sayings of Jesus were already being said before he lived.

2). While some of them are fairly close to true spirituality, most of them are hideous threats, ten virgins, being ready in that hour, narrow path, bearing fruit, etc.

3). The actual surroundings of the actual history establish FULL WELL that Jesus was not a spiritual teacher of any merit, he was crucified for being a militant. They decided he was "the" messiah after he was dead. They argued fussed and fought about what it all meant, as do churches still today.

Bottom line, it means nothing and is meaningless. My story proves it false, as only a true omniscient omnipotent being could have orchestrated my story. And I set out on a mission to REPLACE religion with NATURE, REALITY and SPIRIT. Which I succeeded in doing, with HER help, against all the machinations of arrogant MALE DOMINATED mass stupidity in society at large.

They made up the born of a virgin dude form all the other old messiah stories. The kingdom of god was supposed to happen in that generation. All the prophecies were meant for that day and age. The gospels contradict each other on what Jesus said on the cross and what happened at the tomb.

Christianity is over.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

I mean no offence, I will simply suggest an alternative way of looking at "Ma-at"
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Oh...Okay..thanks for clarifying that

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Oh...Okay..thanks for clarifying that

More like, thanks for completely obliterating the signs from the GODDESS in the name of your limited understanding and egotistical arrogance.

[New Age Messiah]

There are various scholarly interpretations of who or what Ma'at was, but this quote below is closest to my motto, which was "Reality is God, when you pretend or lie, you cease to exist you die."

My motto was proved true by my story, ordained and orchestrated by a Goddess, who spoke to me.


"Egypt, then, was seen to be nothing without Ma'at.

Ma'at was reality, the solid grounding of reality that made the Sun rise, the stars shine, the river flood and mankind think. The universe itself, all the world around them, was sacred in the ancient view. "Ethics" is an issue of human will and human permission. It is a function of the human world of duality. What is "ethical" for one group is sin for another. But Ma'at, the reality that made all groups what they are is transcendent of ethics, just as a rock or a flower is amoral, a-ethical, without "truth or falsehood." How can a flower be "false" or "ethical." It just is. How can the universe be "ethical or moral, right or wrong"? It simply is. That is Ma'at."

http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/maat2.htm


Of course, I am sure 14 Chakras knows better than those dumb Egyptians.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

More like, thanks for completely obliterating the signs from the GODDESS in the name of your limited understanding and egotistical arrogance.

That is a totally un necessary remark...I really did not know which Goddes was being spoken about. And let me tell you something..I know a whole lot about the Goddess...I give you the floor.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

That is a totally un necessary remark...I really did not know which Goddes was being spoken about. And let me tell you something..I know a whole lot about the Goddess...I give you the floor.

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

I mean no offence, I will simply suggest an alternative way of looking at "Ma-at" and the worship of mater.

The title of the thread is worship is not necessary.

I am the spiritual authority in the world at this time, as I am the ordained New Age Messiah.

[Jonah]

So messiah,

just curious.... your goddess.... is she the goddess of all matter? light or dark?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

Never the less, it was still un necessary to call me egotistical and arrogance.
You do net even know me. You might want to ask your Goddess about me and my Egyptian connection

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

More like, thanks for completely obliterating the signs from the GODDESS in the name of your limited understanding and egotistical arrogance.

This is arrogance in rebuttal... and it is not wise to fight fire with fire...

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

14 Chakras has repeatedly pestered and insulted me, and he called the Goddess that spoke to me evil or fallen, so it was very necessary.

NAM, I have read all the above pages on this thread, while your view is your personal message, so is 14chakras:Quote:

This is what Ma'at and the fallen goddess consciousness represents (my personal take), the separation of spirit and matter. The denial of the Divine Father. The denial of the God Flame within all humanity. The denial of the Spiritual.

You get that? , THE 'my personal take', this is not insulting in any way shape or form. 14 chakras has the insight to use such words as, my personal take on things, while being sensitive to others views.

Please refrain from being 'holier than thou' and make better use of the emotion icons. This is not the best way to communicate your message.

Peace.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Never the less, it was still un necessary to call me egotistical and arrogance.
You do net even know me. You might want to ask your Goddess about me and my Egyptian connection

Ni, 14 Chakras runs around all the time trying to correct or impugn me, calling me egotistical or whatever...

You misinterpreted...

I didn't say it about you... OK???

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Ross H

Please refrain from being 'holier than thou' and make better use of the emotion icons. This is not the best way to communicate your message.

What about all the holier than thou messages 14 has written to me already???

What could be more holier than thou than to negate a person's entire life and story by saying it was anti christ or fallen or whatever????

If you say it's your personal take, all is forgiven???

Geez.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Jonah

So messiah,

just curious.... your goddess.... is she the goddess of all matter? light or dark?

I don't know. ONLY omniscient omnipotent divinity could have orchestrated my story, and that divinity spoke to me in the voice of a woman shortly after I had a conversation about Ma'at.

Reality is God, was my motto, and it turns out Reality is Goddess, as the Egyptians believed (or knew).

The story proves it true. The miracles speak for themselves.

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

The title of the thread is worship is not necessary.

I am the spiritual authority in the world at this time, as I am the ordained New Age Messiah.

This is a 'holier than thou' statement. Using the 'I am'.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

1). The sayings of Jesus were already being said before he lived.

2). While some of them are fairly close to true spirituality, most of them are hideous threats, ten virgins, being ready in that hour, narrow path, bearing fruit, etc.

3). The actual surroundings of the actual history establish FULL WELL that Jesus was not a spiritual teacher of any merit, he was crucified for being a militant. They decided he was "the" messiah after he was dead. They argued fussed and fought about what it all meant, as do churches still today.

Bottom line, it means nothing and is meaningless. My story proves it false, as only a true omniscient omnipotent being could have orchestrated my story. And I set out on a mission to REPLACE religion with NATURE, REALITY and SPIRIT. Which I succeeded in doing, with HER help, against all the machinations of arrogant MALE DOMINATED mass stupidity in society at large.

They made up the born of a virgin dude form all the other old messiah stories. The kingdom of god was supposed to happen in that generation. All the prophecies were meant for that day and age. The gospels contradict each other on what Jesus said on the cross and what happened at the tomb.

Christianity is over.

1. The principles and concepts revealed in the words attributed to Christ are much more important to me than the source. I don't think anyone was meticulously writing down everything Jesus said. His 'teachings' may have even consisted of a pre-prepared script of the 'Best Hits of Ancient Wisdom'.

2. The moral of the Parable of the Ten Virgins (and being prepared) is to be spiritually prepared for spiritual warfare...which will intensify eschatologically...in the 'Quickening'. The Narrow Path imagery represents that those who are irresponsible and who do not love neighbor as self...will not be able to participate in the 'Kingdom of God'. This put the Corrupt PTB on notice that they would be on the outside...looking in. People 'bear fruit' and behave responsibly when they are spiritually mature. How one lives, and how one treats others, is extremely important. The essence of the Teachings of Jesus is Namaste Responsible Freedom. It is a Religion of Responsibility.

3. I have very little argument with Albert Schweitzer and his 'Quest of the Historical Jesus'...and little argument with most legitimate Jesus Studies...such as conducted by 'The Jesus Seminar'...or reflected in books such as 'A Myth of Innocence' by Louise Gluck. The Teachings of Jesus were suppressed after his death. Paul established a very different religion...not based upon the Teachings of Jesus. The churches are fussing, fuming, and confused...because they don't follow the Teachings of Jesus. They don't do what Jesus said to do.

It sounds as though you are seeking to replace a god with a goddess. Who knows...they may be the same being. I don't dispute your experience. Supernatural Stuff (SS) really happens...but I generally don't trust the supernatural because of so much deception and demonic activity.

You are correct that Christianity (as is usually taught) has astrological and pagan aspects...and mirrors ancient mythology. You are also correct that the prophecies of Christ applied to that present generation. Some try to use dual applications (then and now) through inaugurated and consummated eschatology.

Churchianity is over (unless the New World Order Theocracy is successful). Christlike Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom is just beginning.

Namaste