I have an idea that might work.

joe2288 · 12-16-2009, 03:20 PM

I have noticed allot of negativity here being brought in by new Avalon members

with negative agenda's and banning them is having no effect, they just get new

accounts and come back. I have a solution. I need Avalon's member's support on

this. It is a up to us to whether we want this or not, so i am making this thread

so everyone has a say and we can get the Mod's attention, they might be

able to do something. I have the following suggestions to be implemted.

5-10 day wait period for new members getting accounts.
This will stop people who been banned from going and new accounts right away.

10-15 day probation period, Were if a new members come's in stirring trouble
he is automatically banned, no questions asked.

This is not my descision it our's, so if you support this then lets get the

moderator's attention. If you don't support this then your free to voice your

opinion.

JesterTerrestrial · 12-16-2009, 03:23 PM

Good thinking joe!

Positive solutions. Keep em coming

Don't worry these dark fools can't stand the light for long!

Have a great day peace!

Northern Boy · 12-16-2009, 03:30 PM

good idea

Paul.T. · 12-16-2009, 03:31 PM

Being new here I have been wary of posting lately after seeing what has become disharmonius to the group. I have been following Avolon for a year now and found a loving beautiful group of people.

If a propbation period is required to keep the energy positive. tHen I will gladly stand in line and wait my turn.

"spirit, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
Courage to change the things I can,
Wisdom to know the difference"

burgundia · 12-16-2009, 03:33 PM

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

Leunamros · 12-16-2009, 03:35 PM

Although more chaotic now than when it was paid subscription, i have to say there are more interesting threads now than before, seriously. I see more openness, a little of it, than just the dogmatic "be positive all time" that was present in the past. Nevertheless, that shadow will be always there, i think. This spiritual tendency could be a heavy dead weight unable to make to known each other more directly without so much prejudices on shaking hands.

If trolls are a bad thing, force others on being positive all the time is very disruptive as well, i think, because it conditions people on not being themselves. You have to admit, it´s not easy to be a positive person when your life is full of things that make you sad one way or another, and many people live those kind of lives. It´s nonsense to smile outside when you cry inside. Hope you get the idea.

Paul.T. · 12-16-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

I noticed that too,

however I can understand this due to the heavy burden placed on the MODs.

I consider it a test of my patience. (which I have never been good at)

Dadrious · 12-16-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe2288

I have noticed allot of negativity here being brought in by new Avalon members

with negative agenda's and banning them is having no effect, they just get new

accounts and come back. I have a solution. I need Avalon's member's support on

this. It is a up to us to whether we want this or not, so i am making this thread

so everyone has a say and we can get the Mod's attention, they might be

able to do something. I have the following suggestions to be implemted.

5-10 day wait period for new members getting accounts.
This will stop people who been banned from going and new accounts right away.

10-15 day probation period, Were if a new members come's in stirring trouble
he is automatically banned, no questions asked.

This is not my descision it our's, so if you support this then lets get the

moderator's attention. If you don't support this then your free to voice your

opinion.

It might work...

Dood · 12-16-2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

Very true. I cannot PM or even reply to a Visitor Message.

I have broken no 'Rules' or any T&Cs on any forum but, I am treated as if I did.

Also, people will slip back on regardless by way of a 'Proxy'.
So an IP ban does not necessarily work.

Majorion · 12-16-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dood

Very true. I cannot PM or even reply to a Visitor Message.

I have broken no 'Rules' or any T&Cs on any forum but, I am treated as if I did.

Don't worry Dood,

Just keep racking up the posts

Cheers my friend!

TruthWalker · 12-16-2009, 03:47 PM

Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?

Paul.T. · 12-16-2009, 03:48 PM

Just a thought

Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join.

Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group.

Just a thought!!

TruthWalker · 12-16-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul.T.

Just a thought

Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join.

Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group.

Just a thought!!

I know how to ensure that members who are banned stay banned - but I'm not telling anyone how because people are getting banned for no good reason. All that needs to happen is that the forum needs to stop treating the new members like dirt -- and start being more serious and there will be little problem thereafter.

Unified Serenity · 12-16-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?

In my best kindergarten mode.."Takes one to know one!"

I was taught that viruses cause diarrhea TW, you seem to cause a lot of it as per your own just deleted threads.

Us

oh, ps.... Thanks for recognizing my royalty though...... glad to know you can at least see some truth.... Smiles and skips off.

Dood · 12-16-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majorion

Don't worry Dood,

Just keep racking up the posts

Cheers my friend!

Hi ya Majorian...
That is the Rub for me...I do most of my 'Networking' in PMs and not in open threads.
I also like to simply read/lurk and I feel punished for not posting just for the sake of posting.
I could not even reply to a simple Visitor Message.

I 'understand' the WHY of it all but, not everyone is a 'Bad Guy' and out to spam or troll.

joe2288 · 12-16-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul.T.

Just a thought

Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join.

Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group.

Just a thought!!

thanks for your support everyone. all ideas are welcome this is up to us so input

with idea's is welcome.

TruthWalker · 12-16-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

In my best kindergarten mode.."Takes one to know one!"

I was taught that viruses cause diarrhea TW, you seem to cause a lot of it as per your own just deleted thread.

Us

This forum is one of the most unconstructive places I have seen online.

It will ALWAYS be full of problems until people start being more sincere.

It's that simple.

I'm about to be banned anyway.. so this is probably the lasy you'll hear of "TruthWalker"...

tron · 12-16-2009, 03:55 PM

"Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?"
not constructive or relevant to original post.
Please restate the medical emergency.

I like this idea as I want to learn and share without condemnation.

TruthWalker · 12-16-2009, 03:57 PM

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

burgundia · 12-16-2009, 03:58 PM

Please evrybody stop responding to truthwalker...he is only mine..

and I am getting jealous if you engage in any type of conversation with him...

Dadrious · 12-16-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

Unconstructive.

Unified Serenity · 12-16-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

"WHERE IS THE DARN IGGY BUTTON ON THIS PERPETUAL PARASITE tw?"

JesterTerrestrial · 12-16-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

What is your answer??? I have asked you several times! You choose to ignore!

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO SUBSTANCE JUST CAUSING PROBLEMS

SAY SOMETHING REAL AND STOP INSULTING EVERYONE

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS FORUM

LEAVE.

THAT IDEA MIGHT WORK!!!

GOOD BYE

Unified Serenity · 12-16-2009, 04:01 PM

From Jnana on another closed thread:

Here's a simple way to improve your life:

1. Click on the name of a user who is making your forum experience less enjoyable.

2. Click on "User Lists"

3. Click on "Add to Ignore List"
__________________
Don't Panic! (and always know where your towel is)

This needs to be a sticky.

Dood · 12-16-2009, 04:02 PM

Well, to each their own I guess....
I personally never use an 'Ignore Button'. If I want to Ignore someone I simply do not read their posts and move on...
Even people that seem annoying can add to the equation.
In other words I can learn from people I disagree with.

12-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#1
joe2288 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Illinois USA Posts: 652	I have an idea that might work. I have noticed allot of negativity here being brought in by new Avalon members with negative agenda's and banning them is having no effect, they just get new accounts and come back. I have a solution. I need Avalon's member's support on this. It is a up to us to whether we want this or not, so i am making this thread so everyone has a say and we can get the Mod's attention, they might be able to do something. I have the following suggestions to be implemted. 5-10 day wait period for new members getting accounts. This will stop people who been banned from going and new accounts right away. 10-15 day probation period, Were if a new members come's in stirring trouble he is automatically banned, no questions asked. This is not my descision it our's, so if you support this then lets get the moderator's attention. If you don't support this then your free to voice your opinion.

12-16-2009, 03:23 PM	#2
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: I have an idea that might work. Good thinking joe! Positive solutions. Keep em coming Don't worry these dark fools can't stand the light for long! Have a great day peace!

12-16-2009, 03:30 PM	#3
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: I have an idea that might work. good idea

12-16-2009, 03:31 PM	#4
Paul.T. Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 41	Re: I have an idea that might work. Being new here I have been wary of posting lately after seeing what has become disharmonius to the group. I have been following Avolon for a year now and found a loving beautiful group of people. If a propbation period is required to keep the energy positive. tHen I will gladly stand in line and wait my turn. "spirit, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, Courage to change the things I can, Wisdom to know the difference"

12-16-2009, 03:33 PM	#5
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: I have an idea that might work. What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

12-16-2009, 03:35 PM	#6
Leunamros Project Avalon Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 145	Re: I have an idea that might work. Although more chaotic now than when it was paid subscription, i have to say there are more interesting threads now than before, seriously. I see more openness, a little of it, than just the dogmatic "be positive all time" that was present in the past. Nevertheless, that shadow will be always there, i think. This spiritual tendency could be a heavy dead weight unable to make to known each other more directly without so much prejudices on shaking hands. If trolls are a bad thing, force others on being positive all the time is very disruptive as well, i think, because it conditions people on not being themselves. You have to admit, it´s not easy to be a positive person when your life is full of things that make you sad one way or another, and many people live those kind of lives. It´s nonsense to smile outside when you cry inside. Hope you get the idea.

12-16-2009, 03:47 PM	#11
TruthWalker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 164	Re: I have an idea that might work. Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?

12-16-2009, 03:48 PM	#12
Paul.T. Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 41	Re: I have an idea that might work. Just a thought Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join. Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group. Just a thought!!

12-16-2009, 03:55 PM	#18
tron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 45	Re: I have an idea that might work. "Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?" not constructive or relevant to original post. Please restate the medical emergency. I like this idea as I want to learn and share without condemnation.

12-16-2009, 03:57 PM	#19
TruthWalker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 164	Re: I have an idea that might work. What a sad forum. In all honesty. This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus. You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems. Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people. It is ridiculous.

12-16-2009, 03:58 PM	#20
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: I have an idea that might work. Please evrybody stop responding to truthwalker...he is only mine.. and I am getting jealous if you engage in any type of conversation with him...

12-16-2009, 04:01 PM	#24
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: I have an idea that might work. From Jnana on another closed thread: Here's a simple way to improve your life: 1. Click on the name of a user who is making your forum experience less enjoyable. 2. Click on "User Lists" 3. Click on "Add to Ignore List" __________________ Don't Panic! (and always know where your towel is) This needs to be a sticky.

12-16-2009, 04:02 PM	#25
Dood Avalon Golden Oldie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 36	Re: I have an idea that might work. Well, to each their own I guess.... I personally never use an 'Ignore Button'. If I want to Ignore someone I simply do not read their posts and move on... Even people that seem annoying can add to the equation. In other words I can learn from people I disagree with.