Be careful not to be gullible.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

If someone said:

"Aliens are coming in 2012 to save humanity. We should trust them."

My response might be:

"Aliens aren't real. They're demons."

Putting 2012 aside, do you believe that 100% of aliens are demons? You're saying they are all non-physical?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Putting 2012 aside, do you believe that 100% of aliens are demons? You're saying they are all non-physical?

Well, the answer isn't as simple as that. I'd have to go into it. But basically, I don't believe that Arknook from Alpha Centauri is visiting in a tin bucket.

The term "alien" needs to be analyzed also. An alien simply means unknown from here. So in essence, I suppose anything could be called an alien. Angels, devils, demons, entities, you name it.

But the whole point is that I believe (through personal experience) that these entities (what ever they may be) are evil, and since the Biblical term for these evil creatures are "demons" I use the term demon. I could also simply call them evil creatures, or even evil aliens. Problem is, no one ever stopped to ask me what I mean. They just say:

"You said demon! Don't come around here Bible bashing!"

edit I also know for a fact that if at least they are not physical, they most certainly have access to spiritual arena. That is also from personal experience which would take time to go into.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Well, the answer isn't as simple as that. I'd have to go into it. But basically, I don't believe that Arknook from Alpha Centauri is visiting in a tin bucket.

The term "alien" needs to be analyzed also. An alien simply means unknown from here. So in essence, I suppose anything could be called an alien. Angels, devils, demons, entities, you name it.

But the whole point is that I believe (through personal experience) that these entities (what ever they may be) are evil, and since the Biblical term for these evil creatures are "demons" I use the term demon. I could also simply call them evil creatures, or even evil aliens. Problem is, no one ever stopped to ask me what I mean. They just say:

"You said demon! Don't come around here Bible bashing!"

edit I also know for a fact that if at least they are not physical, they most certainly have access to spiritual arena. That is also from personal experience which would take time to go into.

Are you familiar with the assertion that physical Draco Reptilians are residing underground here on Earth?

If so, do you believe this to be true?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Are you familiar with the assertion that physical Draco Reptilians are residing underground here on Earth?

If so, do you believe this to be true?

I do believe that there are creatures under the earth. I do believe that they are reptilian in nature. But "Draco Reptilians" .. I don't know about any of that.


edit There are also creatures under the sea for that matter.

Also, the Bible supports this:

Revelation 5:3

And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Of course the Bible was not referring to anything like worms or animals, because they would not be able to open a book. The Bible is specifically speaking of intelligent creatures.

Revelation 5:13

And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Again, non intelligent animals cannot say "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever". So the Bible is speaking of intelligent creatures both under the earth and under the sea.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Well, the answer isn't as simple as that. I'd have to go into it. But basically, I don't believe that Arknook from Alpha Centauri is visiting in a tin bucket.

The term "alien" needs to be analyzed also. An alien simply means unknown from here. So in essence, I suppose anything could be called an alien. Angels, devils, demons, entities, you name it.

But the whole point is that I believe (through personal experience) that these entities (what ever they may be) are evil, and since the Biblical term for these evil creatures are "demons" I use the term demon. I could also simply call them evil creatures, or even evil aliens. Problem is, no one ever stopped to ask me what I mean. They just say:

"You said demon! Don't come around here Bible bashing!"

edit I also know for a fact that if at least they are not physical, they most certainly have access to spiritual arena. That is also from personal experience which would take time to go into.

Please take the time to relate your personal experience. I can not validate some of your bold assertions through the bible or any other text or consultation with the Father. It is in the interest of this debate that you back up what you are claiming. If you don't wish to do this then I can understand but you will have achieved nothing of your agenda by doing so. You have some personal experience with some non physical entities and are claiming all aliens are the same as the ones you have met which do in fact sound like alternate universe entities. That is like claiming because a few white men commit murder all white men are bad.

Looking forward to your response.

Thank you for taking the time to share.

Initiate.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Initiate

I can not validate some of your bold assertions through the bible or any other text or consultation with the Father. It is in the interest of this debate that you back up what you are claiming.

I am relaying what I understand to be true. I cannot back up every belief I have, nor can anyone else on this forum or in this world. All I ask is to be allowed to post, unhindered by people who wish to remind me in every response that they don't want preaching.

Originally Posted by Initiate

If you don't wish to do this then I can understand but you will have achieved nothing of your agenda by doing so.

I do not have an agenda. I am like everyone else here. I wish to post on the forum and relay what I believe to be true. Where possible, I will of course try to provide valid reasoning.

Originally Posted by Initiate

You have some personal experience with some non physical entities and are claiming all aliens are the same as the ones you have met which do in fact sound like alternate universe entities. That is like claiming because a few white men commit murder all white men are bad.

I have reasoning behind everything I say. If anyone would like clarification on why I believe something, or why I have said something -- clarification is a question away. I am happy to participate. All I ask is that people who hate God and the Bible take a chill pill and let me post without having to constantly put up with remarks about religion and bible thumping and bible bashing, etc.

I am just another poster here on the forums, posting what I believe and what I see. If people treat me with respect and do not make a mockery every 2 minutes, I am absolutely sure that you will find that I am quite fair and reasonable towards others. So far, the people who have become upset seem to have become up through ignorance of what I actually "mean". All I ask is if people do not agree with me that they ask for clarification before they pull out the shot gun. It will go a long way towards constructive communication.

[Initiate]

edited.....

I am interested in your story. I look forward to it.

[WarriorServant]

Initiate, firstly - I just want to say that I believe you're just busting my hump. I'll entertain you for a little bit longer, but please don't hyper analyze every single thing say in order to hold me accountable and expect me to provide lengthy responses. I understand your point. You don't want me all over the forums making (as you say) "bold assertions" -- I get it. But by the same toke, the questions I am about to answer have been written in an attempt to badger me. Put simply: Please don't ask me so many questions, testing me, until I say something that you can say: "AHUH! You contradicted yourself!". I know that's what you're after.

I am reasonably sure your response will be something like: "I was merely asking questions since you are making such bold claims".. or something to that affect. But please, just chill.. I'll get to everything I believe in time, I don't need to be pressed and be forced to account for absolutely every character I type from here on in.

Originally Posted by Initiate

I, like others, appreciate you telling us your truth. You have claimed all aliens are demons. Have you met all aliens?

First of all, I don't believe in "aliens". Not the stereotypical aliens that come from other places to save humanity or to abduct people. I did say in my "list": "Aliens aren't real. They're demons". However, take into account, that was a (shortened) hypothetical list off the top of my head (to underline a broader point) and in no way was I on a mission to convince anyone that "all" aliens are demons -- nor did I say that anyway, (and it's actually annoying that you've decided to extract that one point and expect me to tell you if I've met aliens). So what I meant by that (in it's full and true sense) is that "the aliens that people are perceiving to abduct them, or are channeling with, are actually demonic entities".

I could explain further, but this whole topic is very involved and I will likely make a post in the near future all about what I think about aliens. Everything I believe has a LOT of reasoning and foundational information, and if I am to provide full and complete reasoning for every word I type (immediately), I would no have the time to leave this chair for about three months. Please be patient.

Originally Posted by Initiate

It would seem that you are on a noble quest to enlighten everyone here to your personal truth and that your truth is the only truth and sanctioned by the bible. This is an agenda. I ask that if you make bold claims please quote the bible reference. Or what ever other reference you can. If you don't have personal experience then we need to know where your understanding comes from.

I have already provided Bible references. I will continue to do so where it is fitting and necessary. Your tone is really irritating me. I have to be frank. I am not on a " noble quest to enlighten everyone here to my personal truth". For a start, I don't even adhere to the "personal truth" philosophy. You're not sincere with your posts and you're just trying to get me started, considering that this thread seems to have reached some sort of calm. Why? That's the broader question. Can you just cool it? I'm not silly. I understand psychology very well.

Originally Posted by Initiate

Progresive revelation is a good thing but it indicates further your agenda. Please just come out and say what you intend to relate.

Agenda, agenda, agenda, blah blah blah... yeah what ever. Next question..

Originally Posted by Initiate

You are getting a response to your posts. These requests are fair and resonable as are the other responses to your posts. Enlighten us. the stage is yours.

I would actually prefer to be allowed to just post without this kind of questioning. Questions are one thing, but you're not interested in the answers. You're holding bait up, waiting for me to chomp on something poisonous.

I apologise for being intelligent, but I can see right through you. Can't you just let me post in peace? Or are you going to ensure that (considering I've been awarded my wish to post in peace without being labeled mr bible basher all day) that you're going to step in and hold me accountable - PERSONALLY, until I am found to be the rotten fraud and doctrine pusher that you believe me to be?

Side note: I just KNOW that someone is going to reply to this and state that I am being nasty and horrible for "no" reason. If anyone wishes to make that assertion, have a think about what I have written and also go and look at Initiate's previous posts. Thank you.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Initiatem firstly - I just want to say that I believe you're just busting my hump. I'll entertain you for a little bit longer, but please don't hyper analyze every single thing say in order to hold me accountable and expect me to provide lengthy responses. I understand your point. You don;t want me all over the forums making (as you say) "bold assertions -- I get it. But by the same toke, the questions I am about to answer have been written in an attempt to badger me. Put simply: Please don't ask be so many questions, testing me, until I say something that you can say: "AHUH! You contradicted yourself!". I know that's what you're after.

I am reasonably sure your response will be something like: "I was merely asking questions since you are making such bold claims".. or something to that affect. But please, just chill.. I'll get to everything I believe in time, I don;t need to be pressed and be forced to account for absolutely every character I type from here on in.



First of all, I don't believe in "aliens". Not the stereotypical aliens that come from other places to save humanity or to abduct people. I did say in my "list": "Aliens aren't real. They're demons". However, take into account, that was a (shortened) hypothetical list off the top of my head (to underline a broader point) and in no way was I on a mission to convince anyone that "all" aliens are demons -- nor did I say that anyway, (and it's actually annoying that you've decided to extract that one point and expect me to tell you if I've met aliens). So what I meant by that (in it's full and true sense) is that "the aliens that people are perceiving to abduct them, or are channeling with, are actually demonic entities".

I could explain further, but this whole topic is very involved and I will likely make a post in the near future all about what I think about aliens. Everything I believe has a LOT of reasoning and foundational information, and if I am to provide full and complete reasoning fro every word I type (immediately), I would no have the time to leave this chair for about three months. Please be patient.



I have already provided Bible references. I will continue to do so where it is fitting and necessary. Your tone is really irritating me. I have to be frank. I am not on a " noble quest to enlighten everyone here to your personal truth". You're not sincere with your posts and you're just trying to get me started, considering that this thread seems to have reached some sort of calm. Why? That's the broader question. Can you just cool it? I'm not silly. I understand psychology very well.




Agenda, agenda, agenda, blah blah blah... yeah what ever. Next question..




I would actually prefer to be allowed to just post without this kind of questioning. Questions are one thing, but you're not interested in the answers. You're holding bait up, waiting for me to chomp on something poisonous.

I apologise for being intelligent, but I can see right through you. Can't you just let me post in peace? Or are you going to ensure that (considering I've been awarded my wish to post in peace without being labeled mr bible basher all day) that you're going to step in and hold me accountable - PERSONALLY, until I am found to be the rotten fraud and doctrine pusher that you believe me to be?

Side note: I just KNOW that someone is going to reply to this and state that I am being nasty and horrible for "no" reason. If anyone wishes to make that assertion, have a think about what I have written and also go and look at Initiate's previous posts. Thank you.

Sorry, I appoligise for comming across that way and you will see that I have edited my post prior to your response. The reason I changed it is because it was perceived that it might be taken as an attack when that was not the intent. I never have thought your were a fraud or doctrine pusher. I am genuinely interested in what you have to say. I trust that you can accept my appology. I hope you will allow me to post responses to any questions you present.

[waitinginthewings]

Warriorservant: I take it then that you are not going to share some of what you would like to say? Is that correct? Or, are you planning on doing it on another day? Its just that I have opened a platform for you here, but if you are not ready to take the plunge, please say so, & I will refrain from posting here until you are ready. Whenever you are ready to get serious, I will be here for you as will others who care about you.

[BROOK]

Given time, I believe I can help a lot of people to see things more clearly. I absolutely do not claim to be the be all and end all of all answers, but I have profound experiences dating back to when I was a toddler and for that reason I have a life long array of research behind me -- and not just from the Bible.

The time is upon you..you have opened the door....now time for symantics are over. We get it. Tell your story.

I think we're all anxious to hear it, now that you have the platform. go for it.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by BROOK

The time is upon you..you have opened the door....now time for symantics are over. We get it. Tell your story.

I think we're all anxious to hear it, now that you have the platform. go for it.

Do I look like a trained monkey?

You've done nothing but abuse me through the whole thread and now you expect me to start writing at your command because you snapped your fingers?

Is this what is going to happen now? The forum is just going to start saying: "WELL, START TYPING, WE'RE WAITING!".. and if I do not, I know what's next.. "Well, we tried to be sincere and open the door for you, but you were stalling. You've obviously got nothing important to say and you're just playing with everyone".

Listen: I am not silly. I can see when someone is not sincere and if I see that I WILL pull you up on it. I'm not a trained monkey that performs at the snap of fingers. I will get to what I want to say when I am good and ready. I have already explained FOUR times why I am not yet ready to begin posting everything.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Do I look like a trained monkey?

You've done nothing but abuse me through the whole thread and now you expect me to start writing at your command because you snapped your fingers?

Is this what is going to happen now? The forum is just going to start saying: "WELL, START TYPING, WE'RE WAITING!".. and if I do not, I know what's next.. "Well, we tried to be sincere and open the door for you, but you were stalling. You've obviously got nothing important to say and you're just playing with everyone".

Listen: I am not silly. I can see when someone is not sincere and if I see that I WILL pull you up on it. I'm not a trained monkey that performs at the snap of fingers. I will get to what I want to say when I am good and ready. I have already explained FOUR times why I am not yet ready to begin posting everything.

You don't have to reply to every post.

[Initiate]

Regarding Aliens as Demons:

One thing that has puzzled me is the concept of walk-ins

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=21147

Walk-ins

Walk-ins are people from other dimensions who have walked in to the body of a person here on earth. In all cases there is a contract made before the host, the original soul, is born for this to occur.

Walk-ins use this method to enter the earth plane when their mission requires that begin soon after they arrive. Their mission necessitates they skip the birth and adolescent stage and come into an adult body. This is not always the case. Some walk-ins come into much younger bodies, but this is more the exception than the rule. When a child walk-in occurs, it is because the soul coming in needs the experiences of childhood and adolescence as a foundation for their mission. Childhood and adolescent walk-ins usually don’t awaken until they reach adulthood.

Indications of a walk-in are:

1. Usually occur during a traumatic event in the host soul’s life such as a severe illness or a car accident. Many come in during a near death experience. This is the most common way for walk-ins to exchange places, but it is not the only way. Yet, most all cases the walk-in occurs when the host is unconscious.

2. They all of a sudden, have little or no connection with some family members.

3. Divorce occurs usually within 3 years after the walk-in has arrived.

4. Ongoing physical pain in the neck and shoulders that wasn’t there before the walk-in.

5. Loss of coordination and memory lapses. Trouble with speech.

6. Sudden change in tastes such as food, clothing and decor.

7. Sudden loss of interest in career and hobbies. New ones are found along with a sudden interest in all things spiritual.

8. Strong knowing that they have a mission to accomplish though they may not remember what it is at the present time.

9. Some walk-ins have memories of their home world or ship. They even have memory of their incarnate forms being sustained through a form of cryogenics (spelling?) that is far superior to ours.

10. Walk-ins usually carry the Crystal Gene.

Walk-ins have a more challenging role on earth because they have spent most of their incarnation on another plane of existence and then come to earth in the middle to later part of that incarnation.

Is this not like demon possession? How valid is the contract? Does anyone have an oppionion on this?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Warriorservant: I take it then that you are not going to share some of what you would like to say? Is that correct? Or, are you planning on doing it on another day? Its just that I have opened a platform for you here, but if you are not ready to take the plunge, please say so, & I will refrain from posting here until you are ready. Whenever you are ready to get serious, I will be here for you as will others who care about you.

I will get to everything in time. Right now, there's already half a dozen responses floating and I'm having a hard enough time keeping up with all that. I like to finish one thing before starting another. However, I am pleased that people are being more sincere.

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I will get to everything in time. Right now, there's already half a dozen responses floating and I'm having a hard enough time keeping up with all that. I like to finish one thing before starting another. However, I am pleased that people are being more sincere.

Thank you for your response, I will sign off this post then, & look forward to reading your experiences. I believe that we can all learn something from each other. May I suggest that you write the entire story in one consistent post, just so we can get the full picture and not fragments which are difficult to piece together. I can assure you that most likely there are others here too, that will completely understand what you have experienced.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Thank you for your response, I will sign off this post then, & look forward to reading your experiences. I believe that we can all learn something from each other. May I suggest that you write the entire story in one consistent post, just so we can get the full picture and not fragments which are difficult to piece together. I can assure you that most likely there are others here too, that will completely understand what you have experienced.

I will. However, it will be very involved so I need to try and shake off this "lets test WarriorServant's patience" rhetoric first -- and also, being half asleep doesn't help.

[beren]

Warrior , I seem to come late on this thread and had read all answers here...
This forum is becoming weird as time is passing by.
It is still different from other forums but again it is becoming increasingly weird with flood of new threads about various topics.

All this new situation reminds me of Julius Caesar `s words -Divide ut regnes-

divide and conquer ...

Avalon became chaotic...

And that was done intentionally. By whom? By ones who divide and then conquer.

I am afraid that here many think highly of themselves as enlightened but in the very next sentence they write , they show how enlightened really they are.

My friend I like your post, you made enemies here and at the end that enemies want to listen you???
How weird is that?

But there was that guy from Australia nicked M1* who tried to tell his story and few days has passed and he was thrown out by some very cynical people here, M1 tried as you to defend himself but as more he tried the more they mocked him.

Also some tried to mock 14 Chakras, RedeZra and me for speaking from our hearts and for speaking about Bible.
I don` t pay attention to that since I don`t like to quarrel and I try to speak very clearly about what I think , believe and know.

Go find my bible question thread and do your contribution there if you wish so.
It was an excellent thread where people clearly shed some light about who they are ,really.

I respect everyone here since you would not be here on Avalon if you somehow didn` t wish to find what`s behind the curtain of this world. I deeply respect you all folks and I am asking you politely to have that mutual respect for anyone new here. Otherwise what make you different from this sad evil world? What makes you different from bad guys if you have their manners?

Love and blessings for all!

Beren

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by beren

Warrior , I seem to come late on this thread and had read all answers here...
This forum is becoming weird as time is passing by.
It is still different from other forums but again it is becoming increasingly weird with flood of new threads about various topics.

All this new situation reminds me of Julius Caesar `s words -Divide ut regnes-

divide and conquer ...

Avalon became chaotic...

And that was done intentionally. By whom? By ones who divide and then conquer.

I am afraid that here many think highly of themselves as enlightened but in the very next sentence they write , they show how enlightened really they are.

My friend I like your post, you made enemies here and at the end that enemies want to listen you???
How weird is that?

But there was that guy from Australia nicked M1* who tried to tell his story and few days has passed and he was thrown out by some very cynical people here, M1 tried as you to defend himself but as more he tried the more they mocked him.

Also some tried to mock 14 Chakras, RedeZra and me for speaking from our hearts and for speaking about Bible.
I don` t pay attention to that since I don`t like to quarrel and I try to speak very clearly about what I think , believe and know.

Go find my bible question thread and do your contribution there if you wish so.
It was an excellent thread where people clearly shed some light about who they are ,really.

I respect everyone here since you would not be here on Avalon if you somehow didn` t wish to find what`s behind the curtain of this world. I deeply respect you all folks and I am asking you politely to have that mutual respect for anyone new here. Otherwise what make you different from this sad evil world? What makes you different from bad guys if you have their manners?

Love and blessings for all!

Beren

Hi Beren. Thank you for your thoughtful response, and thank you for reading everything before responding. There is a spirit in this world which hates God. It is not hard to work out which people are effected by that spirit.

[WarriorServant]

I have noticed that many people believe that gullibility is a good thing. This does perplex me and make me wonder if I am in the twilight zone -- but what do you do? There is another thread on this subject which is winning acclaim and applause. However, I must insist that gullibility is not a virtue.

Definition:

–adjective
easily deceived or cheated.

I guess others could argue the contrary (they are actually), but I do not see anything positive about being easily deceived or cheated -- especially when there is a remedy.

Tip: The remedy is not to bask in gullibility and declare that it is a good thing (as is being done in that other thread). At least, I wouldn't stand in front of a class of school children and declare: "Hey kids: It is good to be gullible! There's noting wrong with it. Just stay ignorant all your life and don't learn anything and you can grow up to be one of the words most gullible people!".

I would expect the parents to have me sacked inside 24 hours.

[Steve_A]

Hi WarriorServant,

Although in principle I agree with your initial post on this thread, it appears there seems to be some sort of faliure in communication between yourself and some other members during the course of the development of the thread.

May I suggest that you offer the information that you have, as we all try and do in the forum, so that those members may understand the reason behind your message.

I'm not too sure that saying that people are gullible is the right way to go, after all, if they are gullible and you tell the truth as you know it, what would be the point?

May I suggest that you offer what we call in the trade as a 'teaser' and the others will ask questions as they reflect and become to wish to know more. Just an idea.

By the way, you must be Australian, as you used the 'N' word in another post. Not THE 'N' word everybody, the Australian one which means something else!

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I have noticed that many people believe that gullibility is a good thing. This does perplex me and make me wonder if I am in the twilight zone -- but what do you do? There is another thread on this subject which is winning acclaim applause. However, I must insist that gullibility is not a virtue.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi WarriorServant,

Although in principle I agree with your initial post on this thread, it appears there seems to be some sort of faliure in communication between yourself and some other members during the course of the development of the thread.

May I suggest that you offer the information that you have, as we all try and do in the forum, so that those members may understand the reason behind your message.

I'm not too sure that saying that people are gullible is the right way to go, after all, if they are gullible and you tell the truth as you know it, what would be the point?

May I suggest that you offer what we call in the trade as a 'teaser' and the others will ask questions as they reflect and become to wish to know more. Just an idea.

By the way, you must be Australian, as you used the 'N' word in another post. Not THE 'N' word everybody, the Australian one which means something else!

Best regards,

Steve

Steve I do believe we have passed the problematic portion of the thread, and at this moment in time things are running not too bad and I have no further complains to speak of. So, I don't think any further remedy is required for me to appease anyone.

Regarding calling people gullible. The title of my thread was less dramatic than that. It was "Be careful not to be gullible". It was (and is) intended to be a message of real concern. I agree that the original post wasn't written to win any socialite acclaims, but that was the whole point. I sincerely believe that people (most people) really need to consider where they get their information, and whether or not to believe it -- and WHO to trust within the disclosure and whistle blower movements.

In other words, there are a LOT of liars around.

Regarding the "N" word. Which word is that? Nong?

[Steve_A]

Hi WarriorServant,

Yes, once again you are right.

The object is not to be excessively closed off, but also not to be too open. The happy medium makes us want to ask questions and investigate to get to the root of the information. Wouldn't you agree? After all, questions are never offensive.

I tend to think, in general, that the people on this forum are at this happy medium, so prepare for the questions!

The 'N' word is indeed Nong.

Steve

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi WarriorServant,

Yes, once again you are right.

The object is not to be excessively closed off, but also not to be too open. The happy medium makes us want to ask questions and investigate to get to the root of the information. Wouldn't you agree? After all, questions are never offensive.

I tend to think, in general, that the people on this forum are at this happy medium, so prepare for the questions!

The 'N' word is indeed Nong.

Steve

I have absolutely no qualms with sincere questions. I encourage them and they are a delight for me to answer. After all, this is a forum.

[beren]

This is one of the best advices I ever found;

Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ

If someone have problem with Christ, well that `s his/her problem which they need to solve in their own privacy BUT no one can say that these words are not reasonable!