Norway...possible portal? UFO?

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by LucidJia

Why I don't think the rocket explanation cuts it..

1. It is just to symmetrical for it to be an out of control rocket.

2. The glowing blue luminescence doesn't seem to fit a normal rocket trail.

3. Many eyewitnesses reported it being spherical not flat. Also the fact that different perspectives and angles all show a spiral, points to it being spherical

Any other points?

The rocket isn't out of control, it is leaking fuel and that is the blue trail in the beginning, the white spiral is because the rocket is almost coming to a dead-halt as it is rotating violently but still on a slow and straight course, the white trail is probably made partially of smoke as the engine is burning the last of the fuel in an un-even burn .(how's my text coming out, anyone)

[TheObserver]

Your text looks fine to me on all your posts, i didn't even see a difference between your one post and the 'left justified' re-post GTF.

[waitinginthewings]

Text is still coming out very wide

I can't see how falling fuel would create a perfect spiral like that?

[waitinginthewings]

please can someone else give feedback on Goingsofast's posts coming up wide on their screens or is it just mine. All other posters posts are coming up with my screen view. maybe some one can help him fix the problem.

[TheObserver]

WITW, GTF's post look the same as all the others on this thread to me. Maybe you might try logging out/re-logging back in to clear your cookies.

[BROOK]

I think it may have something to do with all of the "links" in his signature....just a guess

[Lionhawk]

He's just going to fast. Ooppps...... Lionhawk made a one liner.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I think it may have something to do with all of the "links" in his signature....just a guess

The links are well within the margins on my computer, I've got two inches over to the left on my screen.

[Lionhawk]

I logged out just for you and logged back in since I deal with logs all the time and that vortex or the rocket or the missile is still at work. Good thing I didn't start a fire like I usually do. Time for a conspiracy theory as to why this is happening. Maybe Obama is up to something else here. You never know as he has a way with Kings. And that is no conspiracy theory!
Maybe the Fins are up to something.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

The rocket isn't out of control, it is leaking fuel and that is the blue trail in the beginning, the white spiral is because the rocket is almost coming to a dead-halt as it is rotating violently but still on a slow and straight course, the white trail is probably made partially of smoke as the engine is burning the last of the fuel in an un-even burn .(how's my text coming out, anyone)

Okay then....that would mean that the rocket was spiraling and the spiral got bigger the higher up it got ..right? so then...in the video..the white spiral started out small..and got bigger...something does not hold water here

[waitinginthewings]

Goingsofast: i think what the problem is....your signature line is really long..maybe if you cut the line of text in half & move 1/2 down onto the next line.....it might sort out the problem.

[waitinginthewings]

Phtha: If the rocket/missile is travelling at a certain speed & it explodes, debris would be scattered everywhere, & the smoke would also be dispersed in a variety of trails.............no, I don't have to be a rocket scientist to sort this one out

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Phtha: If the rocket/missile is travelling at a certain speed & it explodes, debris would be scattered everywhere, & the smoke would also be dispersed in a variety of trails.............no, I don't have to be a rocket scientist to sort this one out

The rocket didn't explode, the white smoke is because the engine is burning the last of the fuel in an uneven burn !!!

[Phtha]

haha ok let me put it this way...
Close your eyes, and visualize yourself spinning in place while blowing smoke out of your mouth with one incredibly long and powerful breath, you would create a spiral no?

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Phtha: If the rocket/missile is travelling at a certain speed & it explodes, debris would be scattered everywhere, & the smoke would also be dispersed in a variety of trails.............no, I don't have to be a rocket scientist to sort this one out

[Aztar]

This is the problem.

BeepBeepBeepBeep....WROOOOOM....COYOTE....A.C.M.E. ....
STUPIDATY....SLAAAAAMM....BeepBeep.....WROOOOOM


Needs to be 2 lines instead of one Huge font long one

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Aztar

This is the problem.

BeepBeepBeepBeep....WROOOOOM....COYOTE....A.C.M.E. ....
STUPIDATY....SLAAAAAMM....BeepBeep.....WROOOOOM


Needs to be 2 lines instead of one ridiculously long one

That was what I was talking about...hahah

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Aztar

This is the problem.

BeepBeepBeepBeep....WROOOOOM....COYOTE....A.C.M.E. ....
STUPIDATY....SLAAAAAMM....BeepBeep.....WROOOOOM


Needs to be 2 lines instead of one Huge font long one

The LINE has been corrected and the line HAS to be in ONE long line to make the WANTED "punch-line" EFFECT.... please watch the last two BeepBeep and Wrooooom... quit interesting in my mind...

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Phtha

haha ok let me put it this way...
Close your eyes, and visualize yourself spinning in place while blowing smoke out of your mouth with one incredibly long and powerful breath, you would create a spiral no?

agreed.....but....but.....that would only work if I was spiraling down in a straight line.......the pics showed an angular direction which would cause an erratic pattern

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

agreed.....but....but.....that would only work if I was spiraling down in a straight line.......the pics showed an angular direction which would cause an erratic pattern

No you would not have to be traveling at all. As you are blowing the smoke away from you at the same time as you are rotating you would actually make a FLAT SPIRAL of smoke surrounding your own head !!!

[Lionhawk]

So I guess wave guide propagation isn't at work here. Instead we have a perfectly out of control rocket creating the most bizarre and almost perfect spiral shapes in three different fields of affect all at the same time. All this from one rocket? I have never seen a rocket that has ever gone so bad and create such a perfect set of effects before. Nor do I know anyone who has or would even claim to have.

I have seen probably a dozen shuttle launches, I have also hauled rockets through Nevada (that was freaky), been around a lot of rocket type people, and no one has ever mentioned this in the way it has been mentioned here. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but if this was also a large scale hoax done by some sophisticated camera crew and some Russian rocket teers, I would think it would have been leaked as such. Maybe Wal-mart over in China has a new toy coming out. Again if I had to choose between rockets and holography I would take the latter.

I don't see a rocket trail here. I see a propagation of light with a distinction of colors. It is hard to swallow that a rocket going up in the air even out of control would stop and create a perfectly round spiraling cloud of that size. The rocket circumference would have to be huge and if the blue was the rocket trail, that would indicate to me that the rocket was small. It is not adding up, sorry, you're going to have bring something more to bear as something as you claim can be demonstrated to convince me it is even a rocket. If I use my cave man brain, I see a satellite dish emitting some kind of signal. Where's that Ammit?

Oh, I am sober!

[Phtha]

If you take any point, and rotate around that point, you will create a perfect circle, how a compass from a geometry set works . If there is a constant force, in this case velocity moving away from the center point, that perfect circle will become a perfect spiral. I'm afraid you are over complicating things as it is really quite basic.



Yes nature is amazing and this missile effect was certainly very pretty. But sorry to say that is all it is. It is also smoke coloured and dissolved or dissipated like smoke.

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

[I]So I guess wave guide propagation isn't at work here. Instead we have a perfectly out of control rocket creating the most bizarre and almost perfect spiral shapes in three different fields of affect all at the same time. All this from one rocket? I have never seen a rocket that has ever gone so bad and create such a perfect set of effects before. Nor do I know anyone who has or would even claim to have.

Oh, I am sober!

[waitinginthewings]

Phtha: to clarify....assuming it was a rocket/missile.....what went wrong? Goingsofast said it did not explode, then what did it do? Because that would be a good place to start to figure out what would have happened next.

Secondly, how big was it....because that's one very big spiral & dense too....also seems to linger quite a while

Thirdly, if it did not explode where is the burnt out rocket...evidence?

It also appeared to be very close to homes.....which is odd.

I'm also having a hard time believing the fuel spiraling so perfectly

so many question around the rocket theory....

my belief is still holding at "not a rocket"

[BROOK]

My caveman brain is saying the same thing. I'm seeing different effects as well. And the spiral is just too large an effect for the size of the blue spiral.

[Phtha]

I'm not sure what type of Missile it was, nor do I know much about missiles, but I do no that many will detinate on impact only, there is a tit for lack of a better word, on the end of the missile, that once depressed, will cause the boom.

If you are talking about that photo when you mention dense, it is because as mentioned, it was taken using a slow shutter speed meaning that the camera stays open and records everything that happens over a set amount of time and outputs it in one frame. This is why it is more dense in the center then on the outside.

I was trying to search for out of control missile videos but came across this. He does a good job of debunking this as the missile it is. He lives right in the area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2nss13GvPM

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Phtha: to clarify....assuming it was a rocket/missile.....what went wrong? Goingsofast said it did not explode, then what did it do? Because that would be a good place to start to figure out what would have happened next.

Secondly, how big was it....because that's one very big spiral & dense too....also seems to linger quite a while

Thirdly, if it did not explode where is the burnt out rocket...evidence?

It also appeared to be very close to homes.....which is odd.

I'm also having a hard time believing the fuel spiraling so perfectly

so many question around the rocket theory....

my belief is still holding at "not a rocket"

[Phtha]

Of course ignore that guys insulting remarks from the debunking video, but it is true what he says about it being a missile, here is a clip that might help as well to vizualize how it could happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4