Survivalism In Your Home .

[nath]

Nice post!

[waitinginthewings]

I dont like guns & have never actually held one or even been close to one. Can't I just have Harrison Ford instead & he can deal with the bad guys

[codin]

I just wanna know how can I protect my self,hypothetical,agains a microwave weapon. At my home especialy, without having special devices instaled.Its not a joke.

[Swanny]

Turn your house or a room in to a big faraday cage

[Ammit]

This is a brill post Swanny

I have read it before as Im into the survivalist thing with bushcraft and what not. Just waiting now for your instructions on making a faraday cage.. Seriously as I dont have a clue.

It must be remembered that depending on the actual situation at that particular time that, if you have to leave the safety of your home, what do you take?, where do you go?, who goes?.

The last one is a bit harsh because not everyone will believe in bad things and will always fear the safety aspect of leaving, even if a bomb was gonna drop on thier home.

Always remember that you eat only as a last resort without a good supply of water as it dehydrates you quicker when the body digests the food, so with that in mind, imagine what eating dehydrated food will do to you with none or little water to drink!!!!!

[Swanny]

I bought a cheap safe from tescos lined it with some vinal flooring and I'm using that as a faraday cage. But I reckon a microwave oven can be used as one, keeps microwaves in so should also keep them out. I took the fuse out of the plug and used to use mine as one before I gave it away.
Plenty of info out there about how to build one. Just depends what you want to protect and what the situation is. If things are really bad then laptops etc won't be much good, but would always be good to have some music

Yea you're right water is the most precious thing you can have, without it life won't last long.

[Ammit]

I used to be a ghosty hunter years ago Swanny, I tested some some items in my house to learn the different signatures etc, sadly the microwave bleeds all sorts of emmisions, I dont think I would trust one for anything, even cooking food.

Thats a neat idea with the safe though, clever chap...

[Ammit]

Oh, and the water thing, Depends on where you live.
I live next to the coast, so plenty of sea water to drink, once distilled of course. I also hunt out springs in the area while doing my bushcraft stuff.

There is a multitude of things you can do to get water, its just knowing the best method for your area, (eg) a solar still is not much use in dark area and a sea water still is not much use 200 miles away from the coast.

[reggaeman]

try putting your mobile phone in the microwave and calling it you will soon see how good it may be or not...

[Ammit]

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Can you explain this one, I understand that the natural shelding may effect the reception.

[Ammit]

Actually just tried it, rang with a healthy reception bar signal. Scary

[reggaeman]

Originally Posted by Ammit

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Can you explain this one, I understand that the natural shelding may effect the reception.

I tried it and it does not do anything to affect the reception...i thought it might

[chelmostef]

I was raised on a boat as a child. The boat had a wooden hull which was sheathed in concrete pushed into a wire matrix. Thus effectivly a very big faraday cage, we could not pick up radio in the hull or "downbelow" as we used to say. We had to run the arial up and out to get a signal.
It does depend what fequency you are trying to block as this depends on the size of the holes in the matrix. For instance the holes on the front of a microwave are very small, which stops the waves escaping out of the microwave.

[Swanny]

I just tried calling my phone in the safe........ It rang
If it was lined with lead it would be ok. Trouble is lead is not cheap.

[Ammit]

I was wondering if you made a basic square frame from chicken wire if this would work, would you need an electrical current going through it to make it work??

Be good to try a mobile inside it.

[chelmostef]

The size of the holes is related to the frequency. Galvanized wire fence, Chicken mesh of various sizes and maybe welders mesh, this is square but with different layers will make up a wire matrix of different sizes. Lead is also good. You could build a wooden box line it with lead then cover with the mesh and push concrete into the mess.. I think that would work Just don't try and move it.

I regards to food I buy a 3 20kg bags of mixed seed for the birds. I keep a couple of bags in the shed, and rotate with new as the birds eat the seed.. The greedy little buggers..
Two 20 kg bags of mixed seed should last a couple of months if all the shops close and the birds get feed too.. I get mine from a whole saler it costs £6.99 a bag

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by nath

Nice post!

I agree, thankyou for all your infomation,when things get rough we decend like the LORD OF THE FLIES...therefore will weapons be needed?

[Ammit]

I have my bushcraft knifes and axes, I would not consider a gun or crossbow.
Lethal action would be the last on my list, but, not out of mind..

[housemouse2]

Need to have a gun and know how to use it!!!

Now is the time to do so. I keep getting a feeling that the USA will have a massive power outage. Look up EMP attack. That could be what I am sensing will come. Other possibility is a massive solar flare.

For beginners:

start with a revolver for a handgun. long gun, go with a 22.

learn how to use it, clean it and store it.

When this power outage happens you will need to protect yourself and your family. The USA doesn't have enough food in stock to last past a month. You can bet the government will be hoarding it for themselves first.

Something massive is coming. You will need to protect yourself because the police will not be able too and people will turn on each other.

If you are afraid of guns now...you will be even more afraid when one is pointed at you and some stranger takes all your food. It's gonna be dog eat dog.

Bow and arrow would be okay too but a handgun that you can conceal would be best.

Buy a gun, practice using it. Make sure it's a real gun too. Not a paintball gun, bb gun or squirt gun that looks real. This weapon may also be your primary method of hunting.

I suggest 3 weapons if you can:

1 handgun that is concealable. (dear lord - no dirty harry guns that are huge)
2. small cal rifle like a 22 vermin rifle. best for hunting rabbit and small game.
3. shotgun for hunting large game and home defense.

If you can only get one gun I suggest the 22 rifle. It's cheap, easy to use and will easily take small game without blowing a rabbit to pieces. You can carry it long distance, is okay for self defense but a higher cal would be better.

Those who think they will not need a gun need to ask themselves what they will do in the event of a total collapse of the power grids. Police will not come to their rescue, phones will not even work. Police officers will be going home to protect their own families.

We are going to lose the electrical grids, cell towers and radios. We will be looking at a situation of rationed gas, rationed food and no TV, internet, ect.

Please, rethink your strategy and prepare for the worst with whatever means you currently have.

[Ammit]

LOL, try and enter my house without my permission, wont need a gun just maybe a solicitor, lol

[Ammit]

I honestly do see where you are coming from but i cannot see how a gun will help in a world where we need to work together, my black widow will do enough damage with a half inch steel ball, silent too, except for the ouch bit, lol.

[Swanny]

The black widow looks good
I have a cheap one but will look out for a black widow
Used to be a great shot when I was a kid, never went anywhere without my catapult

[Moxie]

To change the subject but not the Topic... I discovered a way to preserve eggs for up to a year, even longer, without refrigeration.
Last summer we raised 24 Rhode Island Reds and they are producing non-stop, sooooo, found this:

Using sodium silicate (waterglass), 1 pt waterglass to 9 pts water.
Stack the eggs (if fresh, unwashed) narrow end down upon each other in a crock and pour this liquid over to cover by 2". Seal the crock and keep the crock in a cool dry place.

That's a very affordable way to have fresh protein on hand anywhere.

[Moxie]

Essentials:

Pressure Canner w/lots of jars & lids (anyone can do this, you can preserve whatever food is in your refrigerator/freezer. Make big batches of vegetable stew & can it, start now, very economical.

Seeds for Sprouting: alfalfa/red clover/chia/radish/fenugreek/sunflower, the list is endless, all legumes, brown rice even.... fresh "greens" right on your windowsil. You get thousands of seeds per pound. Economical, space saving, only requires water.

Charcoal Capsules: essential for food poisoning, works like a charm, it's given in emergency rooms.

NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) - breaks up mucous, lung congestion; is used in emergency/hospitals; buy over the counter in health food stores.

Cayenne Pepper: good medicine/kills virus/stops bleeding wounds/tincture under the tongue stops stroke,heartattacks,panicattacks

Oregano Oil: handle w/great care... will kill pathogens

Coconut Oil: very long keeper, essential fatty acids

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