THE WATCHER Directional Change

THEWATCHER · 12-02-2009, 11:00 PM

On the front page of Camelot we have a snippet re Miriam Delicado asking for financial assistance for her and a partner to travel to Columbia.....all very well but this seems wrong to me somehow. I paid my own expenses whilst researching/investigating Ufo's as a civilian, globally, I managed to fund myself by working 24/7 month in month out. This kind of thing really bugs me and asking true hearted people to continue to put their hands in the pockets to finance such 'trips' really pees me off. Would anyone finance me a trip to USA? (not that I would accept anyways)

no caste · 12-03-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

On the front page of Camelot we have a snippet re Miriam Delicado asking for financial assistance for her and a partner to travel to Columbia.

It also struck me as odd. Oh well.

PS Watcher, I am enjoying the switch-ups of your avatars.

The bat one was great.

THEWATCHER · 12-04-2009, 07:05 PM

The Watcher signing off, hoping to be back sometime in the New Year. For now wishing each and every one of you a very Merry Xmas and a safe and happy New Year

olgraybear · 12-05-2009, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

The Watcher signing off, hoping to be back sometime in the New Year. For now wishing each and every one of you a very Merry Xmas and a safe and happy New Year

May you too have a merry Christmas and a happy and safe new year,,, take care...

olgraybear · 12-05-2009, 05:50 AM

News released from BBC News that they will no longer recieve or look for
UFO's or aliens till further evidence is available. They are dropping the
subject.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm

no caste · 12-05-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olgraybear

News released from BBC News that they will no longer recieve or look for UFO's or aliens till further evidence is available. They are dropping the subject.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm

Well. I think the BBC article is posted elsewhere on the forum too. However, with what S. Swerdlow said about marine activity in San Diego, maybe a landing site in Oz? or is that ... ? a plain old film crew ... ? trans-Pacific subs to naval bases in Australia or somewhere anywhere in the Pacific, for that matter.

If it's staging time, there would be no need for UFO files & research anymore, I guess.

THEWATCHER · 12-12-2009, 06:28 PM

Mostly I'm signed off, but now and again my handlers have instructed me to peruse the forums and apply posts where required. That should clear up any issues anyone might have.

THEWATCHER · 12-13-2009, 02:36 AM

For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer. A regularly used tool by the controllers is to get others to discredit an individual on open forums, because it spreads like wildfire, doubts rise in peoples minds and all manner of illogical assumptions are made. Follow on with further character assasination and BANG! there goes another poor sod. This is one method, they are several in use by the controllers in getting an individual discredited and ultimately disbelieved and forgotten.

Yes I have been requested to come in and post and keep open minds OPEN!

SWIFT · 12-13-2009, 02:48 AM

Hi Barry,

Well Done Man and Yes we don't need personnel attacks on ones character at PC . Thoses people who question personnal sexual individuality

is disgusting.

Peace to all and we live in the same the boat folks,

SWIFTY

THEWATCHER · 12-13-2009, 06:13 PM

Anyone in admin, can you please let me know what this means as I thought subs were free to whistleblowers?..................

Email I received today..................

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Jonah · 12-13-2009, 06:42 PM

I got something like that right before the forums went public....

I'll ask someone

DoctorWho · 12-13-2009, 08:58 PM

My subscription is still active as my $1 went through today. I'm guess we have to cancel the PayPal subscriptions for those of us on monthlies?
Bill "the Doctor"

sunflower · 12-13-2009, 09:27 PM

I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.

MaikaNz · 12-13-2009, 10:00 PM

Yes I saw that character assassination of Dr Greer and I thought, who cares what his sexuality is. I guess no one told tptb that the old mindset of bigotry (whatever theme) has almost faded on this forum.

(whatever theme) - Racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia etc

Same fear/hate, different theme.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunflower

I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.

Currently they wish me to detail what has become known as my secret history.................

olgraybear · 12-14-2009, 06:53 AM

Why would this "mud slinging" be something done?

olgraybear · 12-14-2009, 07:21 AM

This is not exactly a post saying "Hey, check this out. It's the one true location of where you can go to get the ultimate disclosure information."
But instead, I feel it is related from another direction, of where this television
episode expands on the way and need for people of all races, creed, or religious belief, to realize how the political powers manipulate the common folk of the world to meet their agenda. Manipulation... Therefore, that is how I feel that this is related.
If you can't get it on your television service, you might check youtube, it should show up there.

The show is "The People Speak", on the History Channel. It's very moving and
will open your heart and your mind.

http://www.history.com/

http://www.history.com/content/people-speak

ce-4 · 12-15-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer

Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ce-4

Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw

I would like to believe Bill Ryan is above such action but cannot comprehend why he openly gave those details knowing full well a s*** storm would ensue. We all know Bill and Kerry disagree with Dr Greer on certain issues but they are relative newcomers to the field and should step back when someone with more experience and knowledge states certain data. I have defended Dr Greer in the past inasmuch as being one of his witnesses and providing data he currently uses and talks about in interviews and at conferences. If someone throws mud at Greer it tends to splash on his witnesses too. The point of more traffic here is made by making the forum free again and allowing guests to view. In my opinion allowing guests to view is a big mistake as no controls on whose eyes are watching here, not all are friendly or indifferent.
Barry

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 02:37 PM

As requested.........THE VOICE, THE SECRET HISTORY

We can begin with the Genetic Survey, the genetic program, as detailed in original files and in filmed interviews.......THE PSI-WARS

For the sake of saving time I will not bother to recount exactly what this genetics program was as its been detailed before many times in several places besides the files. Here I will detail what occurred during my time with the program, its effects and what they had planned for those within the confines of the program. Going only by the timeline I was involved, up until age 15 in 1967, there would have been thousands of individuals going thru the process and procedures in UK alone, plus USA and Canada which no doubt would have had greater numbers.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 10:36 PM

My involvement began as a young child, exact date I cannot give here but I was around the age of 4/5, so it was approx. 10 years of genetic program involvement. I have already stated the countless hospital and other establishment visits, the countless physical tests procedures etc, now I will detail the darker more clandestine side, the psychic nurturing and enhancing placed upon me and countless other children during those times. For those whom might ask, YES this program continues to this day, more widespread as other nations developed their own programs, notably the Russians and the Chinese.

Reward the child.............

Memories, later verified to extent by official files viewed in 1970's. Try and picture the scene. Sitting on a hard wooden bench in a hallway of a building. You are about 6 or 7. Frightened, sitting with other children outside a room which has become familiar to you over the past year or two as 'the room'. Across the narrow long hallway sits a nurse with a clipboard, casually tapping the pencil on the board as she sits and smiles at the very nervous children. Each waiting to be taken into that room.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 10:54 PM

Its your turn, your name is called by a man whom opened the door of the room. The nurse looks at you with a motherly kind smile and escorts you inside, places you on a wooden chair facing two men on the other side of a large desk. One man dressed in a suit sits with papers and pens and constantly watches you and writes things down on his papers. The man directly in front of you is dressed as a soldier, as you get older and return here to 'the room' you realise he is an army officer. The nurse stands next to you, you are very nervous and hold your head low. The officer speaks to you asking trivia such as how are you today, that kind of thing. The nurse lifts your head with a hand under your chin so you face the officer. Sometimes you will have tears in your eyes, the officer seems to be gruff and stands for no nonsense. If you cry he asks the nurse to sort you out before the tests begin.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 11:04 PM

The tests and the rewards..........

UK children in the 50's and early 60's did not have the quantity of sweets (candy) as latter generations, so a few sweets were a luxury to many, it was still an austere UK after the war even then. On the desk sat a plate with a few sweets, some small chocolate bars and others, these were the rewards for those whom concentrated and completed their tests in a satisfactory way. Each child wanted to pass their respective tests and be given a reward so each worked hard. Many failed and ended in tears as they were escorted out of the room, ready to try much harder next time.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 11:30 PM

Again, try viewing this from the point of view of a frightened child of around 6 or 7. Left alone in this place by parents, the only company being other children like yourself, ages ranging from about 4 to about 14 or so. In groups re ages. You are looked after well enough but being away from home comforts plays very much on your young mind.

You sit as comfortably as you can on that hard wooden chair, facing the officer. You look at the other man as he intently watches you. You glance occasionally at that plate of goodies, almost tasting the sweets. You think you really must please them this time and come away with a sweet or two, maybe even a whole bar of chocolate if you do really well.

The tests start with small things, the officer has in front of him a paper wheel mounted on a stick, he blows on it and it revolves. He pushes it towards you a little and asks you to do the same....make it turn....not with your mouth blowing it.....but by using your mind to make it turn. He says he knows you can do it, he points to the plate of sweets. "Give it a try lad" as he smiles at you. You sit and concentrate, a few seconds go by, you feel all eyes upon you. Suddenly your mind goes to that other place and the paper wheel begins to turn, slowly at first, then as you get that strange feeling in your head the wheel turns faster and faster. The nurse has to squeeze your shoulder to make you stop as you are lost in that world far away. The officer smiles and says how clever you are. The man is writing and you are given a sweet, told to hold it and try the next test.

THEWATCHER · 12-15-2009, 11:53 PM

You are pleased you have at least one sweet to take back to the dorm, but you would of course like more. The next test looks a bit more difficult. You see to one side of the desk a small table, on this sits a box of some sort with two light bulbs sticking out of the top of it. Both are lit. The officer asks you to turn them off, one at a time, with your mind. You turn in your seat as the nurse steps back behind you. You look intently at the light bulbs, your mind starts to go to that place and the strange feeling in your head starts again. The left one goes out followed by the right one. In the distance you hear the officer ask you to switch them on again, they both do so. Your mind wants to play further so you turn them on and off rapidly till you hear them shatter. The nurse squeezes your shoulder tightly as you realise what you did. You think you will shouted at by them for breaking the lightbulbs and start to fidget in the chair, close to tears. The officer claps his hands and laughs telling you that you did exceptionally well, he hands you a whole bar of chocolate telling you that you have done well, that stops the tears. You smile and say thankyou as the nurse leads you out of the room and back along the hallway to the dorm. The other children in there rush over to see what you have, you happily show them your rewards as they gather round you.

12-02-2009, 11:00 PM	#1
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change On the front page of Camelot we have a snippet re Miriam Delicado asking for financial assistance for her and a partner to travel to Columbia.....all very well but this seems wrong to me somehow. I paid my own expenses whilst researching/investigating Ufo's as a civilian, globally, I managed to fund myself by working 24/7 month in month out. This kind of thing really bugs me and asking true hearted people to continue to put their hands in the pockets to finance such 'trips' really pees me off. Would anyone finance me a trip to USA? (not that I would accept anyways)

12-04-2009, 07:05 PM	#3
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change *The Watcher signing off, hoping to be back sometime in the New Year. For now wishing each and every one of you a very Merry Xmas and a safe and happy New Year*

12-05-2009, 05:50 AM	#5
olgraybear Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 59	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change News released from BBC News that they will no longer recieve or look for UFO's or aliens till further evidence is available. They are dropping the subject..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm

12-12-2009, 06:28 PM	#7
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change *Mostly I'm signed off, but now and again my handlers have instructed me to peruse the forums and apply posts where required. That should clear up any issues anyone might have.*

12-13-2009, 02:36 AM	#8
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer. A regularly used tool by the controllers is to get others to discredit an individual on open forums, because it spreads like wildfire, doubts rise in peoples minds and all manner of illogical assumptions are made. Follow on with further character assasination and BANG! there goes another poor sod. This is one method, they are several in use by the controllers in getting an individual discredited and ultimately disbelieved and forgotten. *Yes I have been requested to come in and post and keep open minds OPEN!*

12-13-2009, 02:48 AM	#9
SWIFT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 163	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change Hi Barry, Well Done Man and Yes we don't need personnel attacks on ones character at PC . Thoses people who question personnal sexual individuality is disgusting. Peace to all and we live in the same the boat folks, SWIFTY Last edited by SWIFT; 12-13-2009 at 03:07 AM.

12-13-2009, 06:13 PM	#10
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change *Anyone in admin, can you please let me know what this means as I thought subs were free to whistleblowers?..................* Email I received today.................. Paid Subscription Expiry Notice‏ From: Project Avalon Forum (forum_admin@projectavalon.net) Sent: 13 December 2009 08:02:17 To: maninblackuk@hotmail.com Dear THEWATCHER, Your access to the paid subscription "Avalon & Camelot Subscription" is about to expire. If you have selected a recurring subscription you will be automatically billed for the renewal, else to renew this subscription you must visit http://projectavalon.net/forum/payments.php If you do not extend your subscription, access will be removed. All the best,Project Avalon Forum

12-13-2009, 06:42 PM	#11
Jonah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Ca Posts: 366	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change I got something like that right before the forums went public.... I'll ask someone

12-13-2009, 08:58 PM	#12
DoctorWho Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central, IL Posts: 395	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change My subscription is still active as my $1 went through today. I'm guess we have to cancel the PayPal subscriptions for those of us on monthlies? Bill "the Doctor"

12-13-2009, 09:27 PM	#13
sunflower Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower. I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.

12-13-2009, 10:00 PM	#14
MaikaNz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change Yes I saw that character assassination of Dr Greer and I thought, who cares what his sexuality is. I guess no one told tptb that the old mindset of bigotry (whatever theme) has almost faded on this forum. (whatever theme) - Racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia etc Same fear/hate, different theme.

12-14-2009, 06:53 AM	#16
olgraybear Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 59	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change Why would this "mud slinging" be something done? Last edited by olgraybear; 12-16-2009 at 07:32 AM.

12-14-2009, 07:21 AM	#17
olgraybear Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 59	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change This is not exactly a post saying "Hey, check this out. It's the one true location of where you can go to get the ultimate disclosure information." But instead, I feel it is related from another direction, of where this television episode expands on the way and need for people of all races, creed, or religious belief, to realize how the political powers manipulate the common folk of the world to meet their agenda. Manipulation... Therefore, that is how I feel that this is related. If you can't get it on your television service, you might check youtube, it should show up there. The show is "The People Speak", on the History Channel. It's very moving and will open your heart and your mind. http://www.history.com/ http://www.history.com/content/people-speak

12-15-2009, 02:37 PM	#20
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change *As requested.........THE VOICE, THE SECRET HISTORY* *We can begin with the Genetic Survey, the genetic program, as detailed in original files and in filmed interviews.......THE PSI-WARS* For the sake of saving time I will not bother to recount exactly what this genetics program was as its been detailed before many times in several places besides the files. Here I will detail what occurred during my time with the program, its effects and what they had planned for those within the confines of the program. Going only by the timeline I was involved, up until age 15 in 1967, there would have been thousands of individuals going thru the process and procedures in UK alone, plus USA and Canada which no doubt would have had greater numbers. Last edited by THEWATCHER; 12-15-2009 at 02:46 PM.

12-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#21
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change My involvement began as a young child, exact date I cannot give here but I was around the age of 4/5, so it was approx. 10 years of genetic program involvement. I have already stated the countless hospital and other establishment visits, the countless physical tests procedures etc, now I will detail the darker more clandestine side, the psychic nurturing and enhancing placed upon me and countless other children during those times. For those whom might ask, YES this program continues to this day, more widespread as other nations developed their own programs, notably the Russians and the Chinese. *Reward the child.............* Memories, later verified to extent by official files viewed in 1970's. Try and picture the scene. Sitting on a hard wooden bench in a hallway of a building. You are about 6 or 7. Frightened, sitting with other children outside a room which has become familiar to you over the past year or two as 'the room'. Across the narrow long hallway sits a nurse with a clipboard, casually tapping the pencil on the board as she sits and smiles at the very nervous children. Each waiting to be taken into that room. Last edited by THEWATCHER; 12-15-2009 at 10:46 PM.

12-15-2009, 10:54 PM	#22
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change Its your turn, your name is called by a man whom opened the door of the room. The nurse looks at you with a motherly kind smile and escorts you inside, places you on a wooden chair facing two men on the other side of a large desk. One man dressed in a suit sits with papers and pens and constantly watches you and writes things down on his papers. The man directly in front of you is dressed as a soldier, as you get older and return here to 'the room' you realise he is an army officer. The nurse stands next to you, you are very nervous and hold your head low. The officer speaks to you asking trivia such as how are you today, that kind of thing. The nurse lifts your head with a hand under your chin so you face the officer. Sometimes you will have tears in your eyes, the officer seems to be gruff and stands for no nonsense. If you cry he asks the nurse to sort you out before the tests begin.

12-15-2009, 11:04 PM	#23
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change *The tests and the rewards..........* UK children in the 50's and early 60's did not have the quantity of sweets (candy) as latter generations, so a few sweets were a luxury to many, it was still an austere UK after the war even then. On the desk sat a plate with a few sweets, some small chocolate bars and others, these were the rewards for those whom concentrated and completed their tests in a satisfactory way. Each child wanted to pass their respective tests and be given a reward so each worked hard. Many failed and ended in tears as they were escorted out of the room, ready to try much harder next time. Last edited by THEWATCHER; 12-15-2009 at 11:11 PM.

12-15-2009, 11:30 PM	#24
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change Again, try viewing this from the point of view of a frightened child of around 6 or 7. Left alone in this place by parents, the only company being other children like yourself, ages ranging from about 4 to about 14 or so. In groups re ages. You are looked after well enough but being away from home comforts plays very much on your young mind. You sit as comfortably as you can on that hard wooden chair, facing the officer. You look at the other man as he intently watches you. You glance occasionally at that plate of goodies, almost tasting the sweets. You think you really must please them this time and come away with a sweet or two, maybe even a whole bar of chocolate if you do really well. The tests start with small things, the officer has in front of him a paper wheel mounted on a stick, he blows on it and it revolves. He pushes it towards you a little and asks you to do the same....make it turn....not with your mouth blowing it.....but by using your mind to make it turn. He says he knows you can do it, he points to the plate of sweets. "Give it a try lad" as he smiles at you. You sit and concentrate, a few seconds go by, you feel all eyes upon you. Suddenly your mind goes to that other place and the paper wheel begins to turn, slowly at first, then as you get that strange feeling in your head the wheel turns faster and faster. The nurse has to squeeze your shoulder to make you stop as you are lost in that world far away. The officer smiles and says how clever you are. The man is writing and you are given a sweet, told to hold it and try the next test. Last edited by THEWATCHER; 12-15-2009 at 11:39 PM.

12-15-2009, 11:53 PM	#25
THEWATCHER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,234	Re: THE WATCHER Directional Change You are pleased you have at least one sweet to take back to the dorm, but you would of course like more. The next test looks a bit more difficult. You see to one side of the desk a small table, on this sits a box of some sort with two light bulbs sticking out of the top of it. Both are lit. The officer asks you to turn them off, one at a time, with your mind. You turn in your seat as the nurse steps back behind you. You look intently at the light bulbs, your mind starts to go to that place and the strange feeling in your head starts again. The left one goes out followed by the right one. In the distance you hear the officer ask you to switch them on again, they both do so. Your mind wants to play further so you turn them on and off rapidly till you hear them shatter. The nurse squeezes your shoulder tightly as you realise what you did. You think you will shouted at by them for breaking the lightbulbs and start to fidget in the chair, close to tears. The officer claps his hands and laughs telling you that you did exceptionally well, he hands you a whole bar of chocolate telling you that you have done well, that stops the tears. You smile and say thankyou as the nurse leads you out of the room and back along the hallway to the dorm. The other children in there rush over to see what you have, you happily show them your rewards as they gather round you. Last edited by THEWATCHER; 12-16-2009 at 12:01 AM.